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Charlie Kirk is the Founder and President of Turning Point USA, the largest and fastest growing conservative youth activist organization in the country with over 250,000 student members, over 150 full-time staff, and a presence on over 2,000 high school and college campuses nationwide. Charlie is also the Chairman of Students for Trump, which aims to activate one million new college voters on campuses in battleground states in the lead up to the 2020 presidential election. His social media reaches over 100 million people per month and according to Axios, he is one of the "top 10 most engaged" Twitter handles in the world. He is also the host of “The Charlie Kirk Show,” which regularly ranks among the top news shows on Apple podcast charts.
Subscribe on YouTubeCharlie Kirk on RFK Jr's HHS Confirmation Hearing and America's Public Health Crisis
Charlie Kirk examines Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s confirmation hearing for Secretary of Health and Human Services, addressing concerns about America's declining public health. With the nation facing record obesity rates, widespread chronic disease, and declining trust in medical institutions following COVID-19, Kirk argues that Kennedy represents a necessary disruption to captured health agencies. He addresses the controversial vaccine debate, pharmaceutical industry influence, and why making America healthy again threatens powerful corporate interests. Kirk warns Republican senators that opposing Kennedy's nomination will have serious political consequences, as millions of Americans across party lines support fundamental reform of the country's approach to public health.
The Fight for Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s Confirmation
Charlie Kirk opens with a stark warning about former Vice President Mike Pence raising money from pharmaceutical companies to oppose Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s nomination as Secretary of Health and Human Services. Kirk emphasizes that America has become a sick, obese, medicated, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted nation that desperately needs public health leadership focused on organic food, proper vitamin D, and the principle that "you do not need a pill for every ill."
Kirk issues a direct challenge to Republican senators: vote for Kennedy or face primary challenges. He points out that Kennedy has mobilized millions of supporters, including former Democrats and mothers passionate about health reform. The grassroots force behind Kennedy's nomination represents an unprecedented political movement that senators oppose at their own peril.
The Path That Led Kennedy to This Moment
Reflecting on how circumstances aligned to bring Kennedy to this position, Kirk notes that President Trump's displacement from power in 2020 actually worked out providentially. Had Trump remained in office, Kennedy would never have had the opportunity to build the grassroots coalition that now supports his nomination. Kennedy made a serious political investment in forming a movement of health-focused advocates and activists, culminating in his historic endorsement of Donald Trump at a Turning Point event in Glendale, Arizona.
Kirk emphasizes that Kennedy authored one of the sharpest critiques of Dr. Anthony Fauci and was proven right throughout the COVID debacle. This track record of asking uncomfortable questions and challenging the status quo positions him perfectly to lead America's health agencies.
The Vaccine Debate and Media Dishonesty
During the confirmation hearing, Kennedy faced aggressive questioning about his positions on vaccines. Kirk plays testimony where Kennedy clearly states: "I believe that vaccines play a critical role in healthcare. All of my kids are vaccinated. I've written many books on vaccines. My first book in 2014, the first line of it is I am not anti-vaccine and the last line is I am not anti-vaccine. In my advocacy, I've often disturbed the status quo by asking uncomfortable questions."
Kirk explains that questioning the efficacy or safety of vaccines immediately gets someone labeled as "anti-vax," even though vaccines themselves can have side effects as acknowledged on their own labels and by doctors privately. He points out that vaccines represent a modern secular religion where questioning is forbidden, despite being one of the few products where manufacturers have liability protection from the government.
The incentive structure, Kirk argues, is fundamentally broken. If a car explodes and kills a child, families can sue the manufacturer to ensure future safety and receive damages. But if a vaccine causes a neurological disorder, victims must navigate the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System with little recourse. This creates an environment where pharmaceutical companies have no market accountability for vaccine safety.
Journalists Writing Headlines Before Testimony Begins
In a remarkable moment captured during the hearing, cameras showed journalists in the press room with headlines already written before Kennedy uttered a single word of testimony. The pre-written headline read: "RFK Jr faces grilling on anti-vaccine comments and animal mutilation at confirmation hearing." Kirk points out this represents the smoking gun proving what many have long suspected: journalists write their narratives first, then fill in details later to support predetermined conclusions.
America's Public Health Crisis by the Numbers
Kirk lays out the stark reality of American health: half of children by age 15 are overweight or obese, compared to only 3% of Japanese children. This difference stems from diet, movement, parenting, and cultural factors that public health officials should address. Instead, the current system keeps people permanently sick and dependent on pharmaceutical interventions.
The obesity problem creates cascading effects beyond physical health. Overweight children are more likely to commit suicide, get prescribed psychoactive drugs, become addicted to alcohol, and less likely to become vibrant, active members of their communities. This represents not just a health crisis but a national security threat and a threat to national morale.
Kirk emphasizes that strong, healthy citizens are essential for a free society, echoing the vision of America's founders. "Strong alpha men are a threat to tyranny, but overweight men with beer bellies are not a threat to anybody," he notes. With testosterone rates plummeting and infertility becoming a major issue, America faces an existential challenge to its vitality.
Combative Democrats and Pharmaceutical Money
Senator Ron Wyden demonstrated the aggressive tactics Democrats employed during the hearing. When questioning Kennedy about a statement from the Lex Fridman podcast, Wyden presented a fragment of Kennedy's words out of context. Kennedy responded firmly: "That statement that I made on the Lex Fridman podcast was a fragment of the statement. I said there are no vaccines that are safe and effective, and I was going to continue: for every person. Every medicine has people who are sensitive to them, including vaccines. So he interrupted me at that point. I've corrected it many times, including on national TV. You know about this, Senator Wyden, so bringing this up right now is dishonest."
Kirk identifies Wyden as a perfect example of a pharmaceutical industry shill, deliberately misrepresenting Kennedy's positions. Senator Bennett took a similar approach, confronting Kennedy with: "COVID-19 was a genetically engineered bioweapon that targets black and white people but spared Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese people." Kennedy calmly responded that he quoted an NIH-published study showing that COVID affected different populations differently, which is scientific fact, not conspiracy theory.
The Financial Incentives Behind Keeping Americans Sick
Kirk poses a fundamental question about the current healthcare system: if pharmaceutical companies make more money when people are sicker, how does that reconcile with free market principles? CEOs of major pharmaceutical companies like Pfizer, Eli Lilly, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson have fiduciary responsibilities to stockholders to maximize profits, not to make Americans healthy.
The old adage suggests that curing cancer would be less profitable than managing it for years with ongoing treatments. A cancer patient who remains sick becomes "a nice little check for big Pharma for the remainder of your life." Hundreds of billions of dollars are at stake in Kennedy's nomination, which explains the fierce opposition from entrenched interests.
Kirk notes the irony that the political left, which claims to fight against powerful establishments on behalf of ordinary people, now defends massive pharmaceutical corporations against Kennedy's reform efforts. Kennedy represents the genuine article: someone from the Democratic Party ruling class (JFK's nephew) who is picking the largest possible fight against entrenched corporate power.
The Make America Healthy Again Movement
Kennedy's vision fundamentally empowers individuals by affirming that every person has the capacity and agency to become healthier. Americans can lose weight, eat better, exercise more, and take control of their wellbeing. This message threatens an entire industry built on the premise that health requires expensive pharmaceutical interventions.
Kirk advocates for a full disruption of healthcare, transforming it from "sick care" to genuine health care with personalized, individual treatment addressing root causes rather than symptoms. Most health issues stem from metabolic dysfunction that developed over decades. The entire food pyramid needs to be uprooted and reconsidered.
The most high-functioning people, Kirk observes, share common habits: they largely abstain from heavy alcohol consumption, avoid drugs, take exercise seriously, prioritize sunlight exposure, and make deliberate lifestyle choices. Meanwhile, the most unhappy and unhealthy people neglect these fundamentals. The answer to America's obesity crisis is not Ozempic or other pharmaceutical interventions but diet, movement, lifestyle choice, and personal agency.
Kennedy's Testimony on Key Issues
When questioned about healthcare policy, Kennedy stated: "Americans by and large do not like the Affordable Care Act. People are on it, they don't like Medicaid. They like Medicare and they like private insurance. We need to listen to what people want. They would prefer to be on private insurance. Most Americans, if they can afford to be, will be on private insurance. We need to figure out ways to improve care, particularly for the elderly, for veterans, for the poor in this country. And Medicaid, the current model is not doing that."
Kennedy also addressed child trafficking, confirming that President Trump personally spoke to him about locating the 300,000 children who disappeared over the past four years. While acknowledging that nobody has fully accurate numbers, Kennedy stated that hundreds of thousands of children have vanished, many into sex trafficking and childhood slavery. He called this "a blight on America's moral authority" and committed to finding these missing children.
The Bigger Picture: Health as the Foundation of Freedom
Kirk argues that the biggest reason Americans don't thrive isn't lack of money or inability to buy a house—it's the lack of health. Poor health represents the root cause beneath all other sources of misery in American life. Medical institutions should promote public health, not public misery and obesity. Americans should be able to trust the CDC, FDA, and other agencies, but these institutions have been captured by the industries they're supposed to regulate.
The country needs healthy youth for the military and for society's vitality overall. A sick and diseased population is easier to control and more malleable. It's also infinitely more profitable for pharmaceutical companies. Restoring a free society requires healthy citizens who can actively participate in civic life and resist tyranny.
Kirk emphasizes that supporting Kennedy doesn't require agreeing with everything he says. What matters is being willing to have robust conversations about why Americans are overweight and what can be done differently. Every creative idea, even unconventional ones, deserves consideration because the current approach clearly isn't working.
A Warning to Republican Senators
Kirk concludes with a direct message to Republican senators considering voting against Kennedy's nomination: there will be primaries. The grassroots force behind Kennedy includes millions of people across party lines who understand that fundamental reform is necessary. Senators who oppose Kennedy may find themselves facing serious political consequences.
Kirk positions himself proudly as a supporter of the Make America Healthy Again movement, despite mockery from critics who call him "the MAHA mascot." He believes fundamentally in Kennedy's mission to disrupt captured agencies for the sake of children and grandchildren. With America facing a 41% obesity rate and declining health across virtually every metric, the need for bold leadership in public health has never been more urgent.
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want to reiterate Something Mike
Pence is raising money from
pharmaceutical companies to try to go up
against Bobby Kennedy I hope you all
understand that that Mike Pence is
raising money to go run ads against the
nomination and confirmation of Bobby
Kennedy
we are a sick Nation I'm going to talk
about this in the next segment we are a
sick obese medicated alcohol addicted
drug
addicted slovenly
country it's time for us to have a
public health
authority that understands that what you
eat is who you
become organic food getting proper
vitamin D you do not need a pill for
every
ill and Bobby Kennedy will do a
phenomenal job as Secretary of Health
and Human Services he will do a
phenomenal
job and for any Republican senator out
there if you vote against Bobby Kennedy
there will be primaries there is a force
behind Bobby Kennedy likes of which you
have never experienced before we're
talking about moms that were former
Democrats there are millions of people
behind this so vote for him or else you
may not be a senator any longer there's
some very serious questions in front of
people that oppose Bobby Kennedy
why is America so
sickly are doctors always right do you
think our Public Health authorities won
our trust during
covid Bobby
Kennedy authored one of the sharpest
critiques out there of Anthony
fouchy Bobby Kennedy was right all along
during the co debacle now I actually
believe
that God works all things out for good
for those who love him Romans 8:28 that
us being displaced from Power actually
ended up being a very positive
thing Bobby Kennedy never would be close
to becoming the Health and Human
Services secretary would never even get
close if president Trump would not have
been displaced from Power Bobby Kenn
made a serious political investment a
serious investment into the
Grassroots to help form the uni party to
help form this Grassroots movement of
moms and health focused Advocates and
activists and I'm very happy to say we
were part of history at Turning Point
Donald Trump endorsing or receiving the
endorsement of Bobby Kennedy Bobby
Kennedy endorsing Donald Trump
happened at our
Turning Point event in Glendale
Arizona Bobby Kennedy says clearly here
in his hearing worth repeating play Cut
138 he is not antiva but in his advocacy
he's asked the uncomfortable questions
play Cut
138 and I believe
that my that vaccines play a critical
role in healthcare all of my kids are
vaccinated I've written many books on
vaccines my first book in 2014
the first line of it is I am not
antivaccine and the last line is I am
not antivaccine in my advocacy I've
often disturb the status quo by asking
uncomfortable
questions Now understand if you question
the efficacy or the safety of vaccines
they call you
antiva of course vaccines can be a
scientific miraculous breakthrough the
schedule has wrapped up ramped up so
dramatically since
1991 and if you even dare to say that
yes there very well might be side
effects which by the way the labels
themselves say every doctor will quietly
say of course there side effects
potentially but we can't say that or
else you're called antivaccine it is a
it is a modern secular religion
believing that vaccines are completely
unchallengeable and do you know that
vaccines are one of the few things that
we have where if something goes wrong
you're not able to sue the
manufacturer so if a car
explodes and kills your kid you should
be able to sue the car
manufacturer to make sure the car is
safe for a future user and be able to
get damages if a
vaccine gives your kid some sort of
neurod Divergent neurological disorder
potentially you go to the vaccine
adverse event reporting system vs and
good
luck the entire incentive structure
right now is trying to keep people
permanently sick trying to keep people
permanently in a state where they can be
controlled where they are annuities for
big Pharma we have an obesity problem
with our kids half of our children by
age 15 are overweight or obese only 3%
of Japanese kids are overweight or obese
that comes to diet that goes to movement
that goes to Parenting and all sorts of
things but our Public Health
officials need to
advocate for a health conscious focused
agenda and this becomes a national
security threat becomes a national
morale threat kids are more likely than
to commit suicide more likely to get on
psychoactive drugs more likely to be
addicted to alcohol less likely to be
vibrant and active members of their
community and
Society make America healthy again is an
admirable cause who could be against
that Bobby Kennedy continues in front of
the Senate it's going to be quite
interesting to see how Republican
Senators end up voting on with for him
or with him let's continue on some of
the tape here from Bobby Kennedy's
hearing let's go to cut
139 all of these things cannot be
true so are you lying to Congress today
when you say you are pro vaccine or did
you lie on all those podcasts as you
know because it's been repeatedly
debunked that statement that I made on
the Lex Freedman podcast was a fragment
of the statement I said there are no
vaccines that are safe and effective and
I was going to continue for every person
every medicine has people who are
sensitive to them including vaccines
right so he interrupted me at that point
I've corrected it many times including
on national TV you know about this
Senator wien so bringing this up right
now is
dishonest Senator widen is one of the
worst he is a perfect example of a
Pharma shill and to be perfectly honest
he's also putting words into Bobby's
mouth Bobby has never said he's Pro
vaccine he's just said he's not
antivaccine and he is in favor of of
course some vaccines but it's actually
not the core issue the core issue is he
wants to make vaccines better and safer
and more
effective Blake is going to correct me
here but isn't the old Vol quote to find
out who's in charge find out who you
can't criticize to find out who can
trolls you find out what you can't
criticize is that Vol or is that wrongly
attributed to him I bet it's wrongly
attributed to him but that is a perfect
example oh it was by a Neo-Nazi falsely
attributed voler thanks Blake always
uplifting that's an uplifting fact check
I
disavow it's still a good line but I
disavow obviously the Neo-Nazi
part but you can't criticize
vaccines and the media this is so
dishonest do we know what Outlet this is
by the way did we find out let's play
Cut 132 up there this is in the room
where they are writing the articles
about and against Bobby Kennedy where
the journalists already have their
headlines written they have the
headlines written against Bobby Kennedy
before he even uttered a line this is
what they wrote RFK Jr faces grilling on
antivaccine comments and animal
mutilation at confirmation hearing Trump
live updates this is before anything
happened before anybody said anything
they have their headlines already
written we've always suspected this is
the
case but we've actually never seen The
Smoking Gun where journalists just write
the headline first and then they fill in
the
rest Bobby Kennedy is pro truth wherever
the truth trth will lead him is where he
will go if vaccines are super safe then
why does big Pharma need liability
protection from the
government you're not even allowed to
ask these very simple
questions Bobby Kennedy is trying to
bring a wrecking ball to the Health and
Human Service it' be one thing if
everyone was super fit in our country
it it's one thing if everybody was happy
full of
joy no but we are a diseased country we
are the sickest we have ever been in our
country's
history we're the fattest we're the
sloppiest and Bobby Kennedy wants to go
about fixing that and one of the things
that I really appreciate about Bobby
Kennedy it's a very empowering message
he fundamentally believes that every
single person has it within your own
free will and your capacity and your
agency to be healthier that you have the
capacity to lose
weight to eat
better and what is wrong about trying to
search for the truth it is very
boen in the clearest possible way it is
forbidden across the
board and during Co did we not learn how
corrupt and feckless our Public Health
authorities are and Bobby Kennedy is a
response to
that Co was a massive wakeup call and
let's not lose the lead here as you're
watching Bobby Kennedy get grilled by
Senators right now that is Bobby
Kennedy's
son that is
JFK's
nephew I want you to think about that
that is the ruling class of the Democrat
Party that is now back to grill the
Democrat Party that they no longer care
about
health and when have they ever and by
the way the left always likes to make it
seem as if they're the small guy
fighting up against the system that
they're fighting against the establish
Bobby Kennedy is picking the largest and
biggest possible fight which is against
entrenched pharmaceutical companies Eli
Lily fizer astroica madna Johnson and
Johnson the massive gargantuan vaccine
manufacturers hundreds of billions of
dollars are on the
line and
health jeopardizes their profits the
healthier America becomes the less money
they could potentially
make if we no longer have the belief
system that you need a pill for every
ill then what's going to happen to fizer
stock the old joke goes I've been on
anti-depressants for 20 years when are
they going to start kicking
in at what point do we ask the question
that maybe this medication that these
doctors doctors are unnecessarily
feeding us a vast majority of it is
completely
unnecessary where there might be
naturopathic and alternative
means the CEOs of these big Pharma
companies have fiduciary
responsibilities to their stockholders
to earn profits their mission is not to
help to make Americans healthy their
goal is to print and make money so when
Bobby Kennedy says make America healthy
right now at fiser they want you
sick and to be perfectly honest I have
yet to H see a free market Zealot I
would love to be able to grill a
Libertarian or Milton Freedman if he was
alive on this topic because it really is
a
contradiction if you have companies that
they actually make more money over time
the sicker you are how does that
reconcile with free market forces it's a
very difficult question there is not any
easy solution that by the way there is
not an easy solution because the old
adage is oh well you imagine how much
money people would make if there was a
cure to cancer imagine if there was a
way to not heal it but keep you coming
back for the next 10 years on your
cancer well then you
become a nice little check for big
Pharma for the remainder of your life
and this all ties in with the Trans
executive
order healthy workers
and healthy people are a threat to this
entire
Empire the Democrats are being
incredibly combative to Bobby Kennedy
remarkably
so because they know what Bobby Kennedy
represents there there's trillions of
dollars of Industry that want to stop
Bobby
Kennedy because God forbid your
four-year-old stops eating high fructose
corn
syrup and doesn't get every single
vaccine every single one and goes
outside a little bit more and starts
supplementing with vitamin D no that's a
that is a threat to what they want a
sick and diseased population is one that
is easier to
control a sick and diseased population
is one that is more malleable one that
is in the palm of their hands a sick and
diseased population
is
one that makes them infinitely more
profitable when we are talking about a
restoration of a free Society it it
takes healthy citizens for us to get to
that free Society to get back to the
promise of our
Founders we've said for a while strong
Alpha men are a threat to tyranny but
overweight men with beer bellies are not
a threat to
anybody we know that the testost rates
in the west are
plummeting infertility is a major and
massive
issue they are not going easy on Bobby
Kennedy at all let's play Cut 146 let's
get a little
taste covid-19 was a gen genetically
engineered bioweapon that targets black
and white people but spared ashkanazi
Jews and Chinese people uh I didn't say
it was deliberately targeted I just I
just quoted an NIH funded an
NIH uh published study did you say that
it targets black and white people but
spared I quoted a study your honor I
quoted NIH study that showed that I'll
take it true it was an NIH
study but man they are going straight
into the bottom of the barrel and by the
way covid did affect PE different people
differently that is science it is very
very slimy by Senator Bennett very slimy
stuff but that's what we expect from the
Democrat Party good for you Bobby fight
back we have your back 100% this
audience will not put up with anybody
voting against you in the Republican
party I I do I would love to have
somebody come on the program and tell
me the case for if they think America is
healthy forget all the particulars on
Bobby Kennedy
I'm not going to win you over on that
but do you really think the state
of American public
health is in a good position do you
think the state of American public
health is
strong we are one of the fattest
countries Blake can get it and we I
wrote about this in the book and Blake
helped me with the research and helped
me put all the thoughts together we're
one of the fattest countries in in the
world
that alone should be a wakeup call and
the answer is not Nova NSK OIC the
answer is Diet Movement Lifestyle Choice
agency we want to make America lean
again we have a 41% obesity rate in this
country and I know a lot of you in the
audience say oh it's not my fault I'm
not getting into that the point is let's
fix it together let's fix it together
Bobby Kennedy continues in his testimony
here let's play Cut One
48 you that President Trump has
personally spoken to me about locating
those 300,000 children who disappeared
over the last four years I don't think
anybody has an fully accurate number but
it's hundreds of thousands I agree and
many of them we know have in sex traffic
uh and childhood slavery and uh we it is
a blight on America's moral Authority
and we need to find those
kids we need healthy youth for our
military we need healthy youth for our
country the Vitality of our
nation we are in a circumstance right
now where the major a companies the
major pharmaceutical companies want you
overweight I'm not going to get into
this topic it's too
controversial is obesity a choice or not
I think life style plays a big role into
it I really do but I also believe that
people are being actively poisoned it
goes back to a theme that we say many
times on this
program which is
Quon it is the Latin phrase Quon who
benefits who benefits if Bobby Kennedy
is defeated and people remain fat and SL
sloppy and
unhealthy Kona who benefits if Bobby
Kennedy wins I could tell you Bobby
Kennedy wins and becomes secretary which
we're going to make sure happens kids
win moms win families win Bobby Kennedy
throws Down The Gauntlet on the
Democrats let's play Cut
149 Americans don't by and large don't
do not like the Affordable Care Act
people are on it they don't like
Medicaid they like
Medicare and they like private insurance
we need to listen to what people they
would prefer to be on private insurance
most Americans if they can afford to be
will be on private
insurance oh we need to figure out ways
to improve care particularly for elderly
for Veterans for the poor in this
country and Medicaid the current model
is not doing
that we need a full disruption of health
care because we need health care not
sick
care more
personalized individual
treatment if somebody is experiencing
issues typically it's because of
metabolic dysfunction that happened
decades prior we need to get to root
causes and uproot the entire food
pyramid we want Americans to
thrive and I think what's exciting about
Bobby Kennedy is you don't have to agree
with everything he says Blake doesn't
agree with everything he says that's
fine but we're willing to have a robust
conversation on why are we overweight
what can we do
differently the biggest reason Americans
don't Thrive is not a lack of money it's
not even being able unable to buy a
house by far the biggest source of our
misery is how unhealthy we
are the lack of Health in this country
is actually the root cause beyond all
root causes and let's open this up and
every good wacky creative crazy idea we
need to have it out what I know though
is the most high functioning people in
my life that I see are people that
largely don't drink a lot of
alcohol there are people that don't do
drugs they're people that take exercise
seriously they take sunlight exposure
seriously and some of the most unhappy
people and slovenly people are people
that don't take that stuff seriously but
more than all of that we need medical
institutions and we need institutions in
general that promote the public health
not public misery not public obesity
we should trust our medical
institutions and we know the CDC is
captured we know the FDA is captured we
know all these major institutions are
captured and Bobby Kennedy is going to
go in there and disrupt it for your kids
for your
grandkids I could not be more behind
Bobby Kennedy's Ascension to HHS
secretary I believe fundamentally in the
Maha movement people make fun of me that
I'm like the Maha mascot
and we need to have Bobby Kennedy's back