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Charlie Kirk's Final Text Messages Revealed: 'Leaving Me No Choice But to Leave the Pro-Israel Cause'
Kim Iversen examines newly confirmed text messages from Charlie Kirk sent just 48 hours before his assassination, in which he stated he was abandoning the pro-Israel cause after losing a major donor. Turning Point USA spokesperson Andrew Kolvet authenticated the messages, which show Kirk wrote 'Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this.' The messages, initially reported by Candace Owens, reveal Kirk's mounting frustration and alleged fears for his safety in the days before his death. Iversen explores the suspicious circumstances surrounding the assassination, questions about the current narrative involving suspect Tyler Robinson, and the role of prominent figures like Josh Hammer who were in Kirk's inner circle and may have known more than they publicly disclosed.
Authentication of Charlie Kirk's Final Messages
Text messages sent by Charlie Kirk just 48 hours before his assassination have been confirmed as authentic by Turning Point USA spokesperson Andrew Kolvet. The messages, which were first reported by Candace Owens on her show, reveal Kirk's decision to abandon the pro-Israel cause after losing a significant donor who demanded he cancel Tucker Carlson from his platform.
In the group text thread, Kirk wrote: 'Just lost another huge Jewish donor, 2 million a year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm thinking of inviting Candace.' He continued: 'Jewish donors play into all the stereotypes. I cannot and will not be bullied like this, leaving me no choice but to leave the pro-Israel cause.'
The text thread included Josh Hammer, author of 'Israel and Civilization' and host of The Josh Hammer Show, along with Rob McCoy and six other TPUSA affiliates. One participant responded to Kirk's message urging him not to invite Candace Owens, writing: 'Please don't invite Candace. That might feel good short term, but it's not good long term in my opinion. Like all groups, you're going to get wide variety of opinions. That nasty free will thing.'
Andrew Kolvet's Controversial Confirmation
Andrew Kolvet's decision to confirm the authenticity of the text messages raised immediate questions about his motives and knowledge. After reportedly denying the existence of these messages for an extended period, Kolvet appeared on his show stating he was 'really excited that the truth is out there.'
The key questions surrounding Kolvet's actions include: Why did he take a screenshot of this private text thread in the first place? Who did he share it with? And why would he express excitement about its release after previously denying its existence?
Some observers speculate that Kolvet and others within TPUSA harbor suspicions about the official narrative of Kirk's assassination. The current story centers on Tyler Robinson as the alleged shooter, but several elements of that narrative have been challenged, including the false claim that Robinson confessed to the crime and that his parents turned him in. Candace Owens confirmed these claims were untrue.
Charlie Kirk's Fears and Warnings
According to Candace Owens, three separate individuals told her off the record that Charlie Kirk expressed fear for his life the day before he died. Two of these individuals reportedly have written communication from Kirk documenting his concerns.
Owens stated: 'The very day before Charlie Kirk died, he expressed that he thought he was going to be killed. He told these people, I think they're going to kill me. He had not expressed that to me. So I am telling you this based off the testimony of three people.'
These claims are supported by earlier warnings that had been circulating. Harrison Smith shared a tweet back in August 2024, nearly a month before Kirk's assassination, stating: 'I'm not going to name names, but I was told by someone close to Charlie Kirk that Charlie thinks Israel will kill him if he turns against them.'
This timeline corresponds with Kirk's appearance on Megyn Kelly's show in August, where he expressed frustration about being called 'the enemy' despite his longstanding pro-Israel stance. Kirk appeared visibly upset during that interview, stating that he and Kelly were being targeted despite their support for Israel.
Josh Hammer's Suspicious Actions and Statements
Josh Hammer's behavior in the days surrounding Kirk's assassination has drawn significant scrutiny. The night before the assassination, Hammer retweeted a 12-year-old tweet from Donald Trump about public executions, adding only the word 'based' to his retweet. The Trump tweet read: 'Should be public execution for all to see. You will end this fast.'
On September 29, 2024, just days before the assassination, Hammer tweeted: 'I was given access to the letter a few months ago. I read it at that time. As I've been saying repeatedly, Tucker, Candace, and other bad faith actors are lying through their teeth about Charlie in Israel.'
This statement is now proven false. Hammer was in the group chat where Kirk explicitly stated he was abandoning the pro-Israel cause, yet he publicly claimed that Candace Owens was lying about Kirk's shifting stance on Israel. The question remains: Why did Hammer actively deny information he knew to be true?
Hammer also revealed that he participated in a Zoom call with Kirk the night before the assassination. According to Hammer, this call was organized so Kirk could prepare for his campus tour, which was set to begin at Utah Valley University where Kirk was killed. Hammer described this as a 'brain trust' focused on combating rising anti-Semitism and anti-Israel sentiment on the American right.
However, given that Hammer had access to Kirk's private communications expressing his decision to leave the pro-Israel cause, questions arise about what was actually discussed on that final Zoom call and who else was present.
The Broader Pattern of Suppression
In the aftermath of Kirk's death, numerous prominent Israeli and pro-Israel figures rushed to claim that Kirk remained a staunch supporter of Israel until his death. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and others publicly praised Kirk as a great friend to Israel and insisted he would never have turned against the nation.
These statements appeared suspicious to many observers who had witnessed Kirk's growing public frustration with pro-Israel donors and activists. The newly confirmed text messages validate those suspicions and reveal a coordinated effort to control the narrative around Kirk's final positions.
Sam Parker compiled research highlighting additional concerning statements from Josh Hammer, including: 'Jew hatred is inherent in the European DNA' and 'Europe will never change. Jew hatred is inherent in its collective DNA.' Hammer also stated: 'I'm Jewish proudly. I advocate every single day of my life for the Jewish people and for the Jewish state of Israel.'
These statements establish that Hammer had strong ideological motivations to misrepresent Kirk's evolving stance on Israel and to suppress evidence of Kirk's decision to distance himself from the pro-Israel cause.
Parallels to Historical Assassinations
Analyst James Li drew parallels between Kirk's assassination and several high-profile political killings in American history, including those of JFK, RFK, and MLK. According to Li, all these cases share three common elements:
- A lone gunman with a politically convenient motive
- Bullet trajectories that defy physics or perform impossibly
- Key evidence that mysteriously disappears
In Kirk's case, the official narrative centers on a single perfectly placed shot from Tyler Robinson, a young man with an alleged motive. Physical evidence from the scene has been compromised, with reports that the campus location is undergoing reconstruction. The swift closure of the investigation and pressure to accept the official story without questions mirror patterns from these historical cases.
Li stated: 'In order to make all the evidence fit, we're asked to believe in a miracle. The story that we're being told doesn't make any sense. Was it a disturbed young man with a rifle? Or was there maybe somebody behind him, somebody else, maybe a handler, an agenda, a network? Could be domestic, could be foreign.'
Candace Owens' Dream and Claims of Betrayal
Candace Owens shared that she had a vivid dream in which Charlie Kirk appeared to her and told her he had been betrayed. While acknowledging that not everyone would believe in such experiences, Owens stated she felt certain that Kirk's death involved betrayal by someone close to him and that the truth would inevitably be revealed with international consequences.
The theme of betrayal is particularly relevant given the historical pattern in high-profile assassinations. Many such killings involved betrayal by individuals the victim trusted completely—family members, close associates, or security personnel.
Examples include the Rosenberg case, where Ethel Rosenberg's own brother turned her in, leading to her execution for treason. Even in the current official narrative, Tyler Robinson was allegedly turned in by his own father, though Candace Owens has stated this claim is false.
Several individuals have faced suspicion, including members of Kirk's security team and the pastor who was with him when he died. Defenders of these individuals argue they loved Kirk like family and would never betray him. However, history demonstrates that even the closest relationships can be weaponized, and those who appear most loyal may sometimes be the most dangerous.
The Motive and Methodology Questions
The assassination of Charlie Kirk does not fit the pattern of recent politically motivated mass shootings in America. Radical left-wing shooters, including members of what some call the 'trans death cult,' typically fire multiple shots indiscriminately, attempting to hit as many people as possible.
Kirk's killing involved a single, professionally placed shot—an assassination, not a mass shooting. This methodology suggests a different type of perpetrator with different motivations and capabilities.
The motive becomes clearer when examining what was at stake. Charlie Kirk had captured the hearts and minds of young conservatives through Turning Point USA and his media presence. His influence over this demographic was unmatched. For pro-Israel advocates, losing Kirk would have been catastrophic, especially as other formerly supportive voices like Tucker Carlson and Piers Morgan had already begun questioning Israeli actions.
If Kirk, who had been one of Israel's most effective advocates among young Americans, had publicly announced his departure from the pro-Israel cause, it could have triggered a cascading effect, accelerating the already growing skepticism toward Israel among young conservatives.
This creates a clear motive for radical Zionists—whether state actors, wealthy donors, or independent zealots—to prevent Kirk from making such an announcement. The history of Israeli intelligence operations and the actions of radical Zionist groups demonstrate a willingness to use violence to protect what they perceive as vital national interests.
The Cover-Up and Controlled Narrative
Following Kirk's death, a coordinated effort emerged to establish and maintain a specific narrative: that Tyler Robinson, acting alone and motivated by political extremism, killed Kirk, and that Kirk remained pro-Israel until his death.
The rapid confirmation of this narrative, the premature closure of investigative lines of inquiry, and the aggressive suppression of alternative theories all suggest a cover-up. The false claims about Robinson confessing and his parents turning him in appear designed to generate public acceptance of the official story before questions could gain traction.
The authentication of Kirk's text messages by Andrew Kolvet has disrupted this controlled narrative. Major media figures who initially dismissed questions about Israeli involvement are now reconsidering their positions. Tim Pool, for example, expressed shock at the revelations, acknowledging that the evidence against Robinson appears increasingly flimsy while circumstantial evidence pointing toward Zionist involvement accumulates.
Calls for Continued Investigation
Despite the official narrative, significant questions remain unanswered. A thorough investigation should address:
- The complete contents of the group text thread and all participants
- The full list of attendees on the Zoom call the night before Kirk's death and a transcript of what was discussed
- The written communications Kirk reportedly sent expressing fear for his life
- The identities of the 'they' Kirk believed would kill him
- Andrew Kolvet's motivations for taking and sharing the screenshot
- The timeline and methodology of the shooting
- Physical and forensic evidence from the scene
- Financial records of major TPUSA donors and their communications with Kirk
- Security protocols and any deviations from standard procedure on the day of the assassination
The circumstantial evidence—including Kirk's documented decision to leave the pro-Israel cause, his expressed fears about being killed, the false public statements by insiders like Josh Hammer, the professional nature of the assassination, and the motive of preventing Kirk's defection—all point toward involvement by radical Zionist elements rather than the lone gunman narrative being promoted.
Whether this involved state actors from Israel, wealthy pro-Israel donors, or independent Zionist extremists remains unclear. What is clear is that the official story does not adequately account for the available evidence, and that those with the most to lose from Kirk's defection had the means, motive, and opportunity to orchestrate his killing.
Video Transcript
Well, it turns out Candace Owens was
right. Charlie Kirk had expressed uh
that he might be abandoning the
pro-Israel cause only 48 hours before he
was assassinated. A lot of people
questioned when she was talking about
that on her show. Uh she would say that
Charlie Kirk was afraid of Israel, that
Charlie Kirk was potentially uh going to
be uh abandoning Israel. And a lot of
people uh even people who were actually
in this thread, this text thread, said
that she was full of it. She was making
it up. She was doing everything for
clicks. Well, she actually shows the
text. This is the text. And these texts
have been confirmed by the TPUSA, the
Turning Point USA spokesperson. Um,
these are the text messages. Says right
here from Charlie Kirk, just lost
another huge Jewish donor, 2 million a
year because we won't cancel Tucker. I'm
thinking of inviting Candace.
And then he writes, and then he
continues to write, "Jewish donors play
into all of the stereotypes. I cannot
and will not be bullied like this,
leaving me no choice but to leave the
pro-Israel cause. Please don't." And
then someone wrote and said, "Please
don't invite Candace. That might feel
good short term, but it's not good long
term in my opinion. Like all groups,
you're going to get wide variety of
opinions. That nasty free will thing."
Uh, is what someone wrote there. So
these are the these are the tweets. So
Charlie Kirk even said, "Jewish donors
play into all the stereotypes. I cannot
and will not be bullied like this,
leaving me no choice but to leave the
pro-Israel cause."
48 hours later, he was dead. Um, again,
the TPUSA spokesperson Andrew Kulvich,
he confirmed this
>> started this show to address some of the
things that have been going around on
public, namely about a text, a group
text chain that has been made known. uh
and released uh by Candace Owens. And I
just want to address it head-on because
uh you know that was a text grab, a
screen grab that I had shared uh with
people. So it it is authentic and I want
to go into it because I actually am
really excited that the the truth is out
there. What [laughter]
I'm actually uh really excited now that
the truth is out there after denying
this for the longest time and all the
people that were in this text thread
after they all denied it. Uh, now we're
we're excited that the truth is out
there. First of all, a big question is
why did Andrew Kulvit take this screen
grab of this private text thread between
him and several others? Apparently,
allegedly in this group was Josh Hammer,
who is the author of Israel and CI
civilization. Um, he's the host of the
Josh Hammer show and he's an extremely
pro-Israel guy. Uh, and he was in the
chat along with Rob McCoy and six other
TPUSA affiliates and Andrew Kulit was in
this chat as well. Why would he take the
screenshot and share it? And who did he
share that to? So, I I'm under the
impression that Andrew Kulvet and others
inside of TPUSA are also suspicious of
the current narrative of who killed
Charlie Kirk. Um, they're probably
suspicious on is it or is it or is it
not this Tyler Robinson kid
who by the way um Candace has also
confirmed that Tyler Robinson's parents
did not turn him in. He did not confess
to the crime. He has not said that he's
done it. And so that was a rumor that
was spread by somebody we don't know. We
don't know how that rumor got started
that he had confessed and his parents
turned him in. That's not true. So the
question is why did Andrew Kulvit share
these screen grabs to begin with? And
again, I mean, I just I I think that he
probably is not confident that the
current narrative is accurate. Um, but
why you would say, "Well, now I'm
excited that these are out there, you
know, for what reason?" Uh, okay. Well,
now we could all know the truth that
Charlie was abandoning the pro-Israel
cause. Uh, Candace doesn't stop there.
She says there's more to come. This is
what she has to say about
uh Charlie saying that he was afraid for
his life. Three people told me off
record. two people who have this in a
written communication from Charlie. Uh,
one who is a Turning Point USA donor and
I would say very much one of the white
knights in this.
The very day before Charlie Kirk died,
he expressed that he thought he was
going to be killed.
He told these people, "I think they're
going to kill me." Okay? He had not
expressed that to me. So, I am telling
you this based off the testimony of
three people. And I am saying this
because I hope that these people who I
think are good will be inspired to come
forward with that. Now again, those
conversations I had were off record. I
honor that. If I say it's off record, it
stays off record. But I'm hoping that
watching what I am doing and feeling the
energy that is rising across the world
for people who want to know what the
heck happened on 910 that you know they
will be brave and they will say, "Yeah,
Charlie did the day before he died think
that he was going to be killed." and
maybe tell us who is they for once and
for all. Who is they? Who is the they
that he thought was were going to kill
him?
>> Right. Um Harrison Smith actually shared
this tweet back in August. So this was a
month almost a month before Charlie Kirk
was assassinated saying I'm not going to
name names, but I was told by someone
close to Charlie Kirk that Charlie
thinks Israel will kill him if he turns
against them. And that was back in
August. So he had been feeling this for
a while. This is back when in August is
also when he appeared on Megan Kelly's
show and said that, you know, we're
being called the enemy. You know, you
and me, Megan, Megan, you and I are
being called the enemy and we've been
pro-Israel and this is really not good.
And he was very clearly obviously
frustrated. He'd been feeling this for a
while. And finally, with those last text
messages of him, you know, these leaked
text messages of him saying, "Leaving me
no choice but to leave the pro-Israel
cause." um you know this is very
frightening for 48 hours earlier you
know and he and he says this in a group
chat where there are several other
people including
um you know including Josh Hammer which
we're going to get to him but first
Candace also h you know take this for
what it's worth worth but Candace says
that she had a dream uh about Charlie
and that Charlie came to her in her
dream take it for what it's worth but
this is what she says he ad which I do
think is is interesting.
>> Like I just said, had a vivid dream this
weekend and Charlie came to me and he
told me that he was betrayed. And so for
me, you don't have to believe that, but
I do believe that. And uh it was the
immediate sense I got actually and I
don't know who exactly it is that
betrayed him but I also felt in the
dream that it is soon going to be
revealed that it's actually inevitable
that it is going to be revealed that
there is nothing and no one that is
going to stop the truth from coming out
and it is going to have international
consequences.
Take that to the bank. Quote me on that.
Okay. So she she believes that she had a
dream that Charlie appeared to her in
her dream and he told her I I've been
betrayed. And you know, if you believe
in this sort of thing, then it would
maybe, you know, you might ask, well,
why would he go to her in a dream and
not to his wife or to somebody else?
Well, because Candace has been the one
brave enough to actually speak up and
expose the truth, right? Um, so maybe,
but I I I mean um I don't think I mean I
I will say I don't think I believe this,
you I I I think I could be wrong, of
course, but I don't think I believe this
only because I think that when we pass
away and we're on the other side, I
don't know if we really care about this
kind of stuff anymore. I don't know if
we're like, "Oh, who done it?" Like, I
think we would just be like, "Let them
figure it out. [laughter]
They'll all figure it out." And in the
end, we all end up here anyway, dead
with each other here. And so, whatever.
But nonetheless, I think the important
point on this that I want to bring up
and why I brought up her dream is
because she says, you know, somebody I I
was betrayed. I was betrayed. So, who
would have betrayed Charlie Kirk? And I
think the thing to remember is a lot of
people in high-powered positions, a lot
of high I I should say high-profile
assassinations, it was the result of a
betrayal of someone who they believed
was very very close to them. So, for
people to say, for example, I hear a lot
of the act a lot of a lot of people were
suspicious of the security team. Um, and
then others would come back in defense
of the security team and say, "That's
not possible. No way. These they loved
him like a brother. There's no way they
would do that to him. Or the pastor that
was with him when he was dying in the
vehicle and you know in the car. I say
vehicle now because everybody's obsessed
with the word vehicle from Tyler
Robinson's text messages. [laughter] In
the vehicle like I talk like a cop. Um
but the the pastor that was with him in
the car in the SUV when he was dead uh
is what the pastor said. Some people
were pointing at him like, "Well, what?
He looked like he was given the hand
signals." And others saying, "Well, no,
he thought Charlie was his son." Look,
siblings have ratted each other out. You
know, you look at the um the Rosenbergs,
was it the Ethel and you know, the two
that were they were executed for
treason, the Rosenbergs, it was Ethel's
brother who actually turned her in. Uh,
I mean, even the current narrative of
Charlie Kirk's current who they believe
is the shooter, Tyler Robinson, his
father turned him in. So, people can be
betrayed by people extremely close to
them who love them, but nonethe
Candace has said it's not true that the
father did not turn him in and Tyler
didn't. But a lot of people still
believe that that the father turned him
in. The father turned him in for an a
death sentence knowing that there's a
death sentence attached to this. So he
basically handed his kid over for
execution. Maybe. Sure. And if that's
the case, then you can't be so naive to
say somebody close to Charlie Kirk would
never have done this. They never would
have killed him. When I'm sitting here
saying to you, people do it all the
time. People turn on people all the
time.
So it is very, you know, it is possible
it could have been that that Charlie was
betrayed by somebody close to him. Now,
let's look at um this is a tweet thread
that I think it was well done and it was
put out by Sam Parker that really
showcases and really highlights Josh
Hammer specifically. So Josh Hammer is
once again the author of um Israel and
civilization.
And I believe that Josh Hammer is a is I
think he's a Jewish Zionist, not a uh
not a Christian Zionist. Let me just
double check that. But I'm pretty sure
he is a Jewish Zionist. Yes. Okay. Very
much a Zionist. So Sam Parker writes
this about Josh Hammer saying Josh
Hammer randomly dug up so fact. And
these are facts. Verified these fact.
Josh Hammer randomly dug up a
12-year-old Trump tweet about public
executions the night before Charlie was
assassinated. Fact. That same night
before the assassination. And let me
actually show you what he's talking
about there. So this is one of the
tweets that he's talking about and this
is Josh Hammer. So that tweet that Josh
Hammer is retweeting at the top of this
that is from Donald Trump from 2013. So
this is a 12year-old tweet and he
retweets a 12year-old tweet and says
based in front of it. That's what his
retweet was. And Trump tweets should be
public execution for all to see. You
will end this fast. So, he
retweets a 12-year-old tweet. Okay, so
that's what um Sam Parker says. Fact,
the same night before the assassination.
Oh, and by the way, Josh Hammers
continues to say down here,
um I was given access to the letter a
few months ago. I read it at that time,
as I've been saying repeatedly, Tucker,
Candace, and other bad faith actors are
lying through their teeth about Charlie
in Israel. So, he wrote that one on
September 29th is when he wrote that
tweet.
Um,
so that's strange, right? So, here's
Josh Hammer and and what Candace is
shown in this text thread is that Josh
Hammer was in that text thread where
Charlie Kirk says, "I have no choice but
to abandon the pro-Israel cause." And
then here's Josh Hammer on the 29th of
September saying, "She's lying. He
wasn't abandoning Israel. And this is
the issue that many of us had about
Israel suddenly like all of these
Zionists, all these Israelis, Netanyahu
himself coming out and being like,
Charlie Kirk was the friend to Israel.
Charlie Kirk was Israel's be biggest
supporter. Is he would never turn on
Israel. He would never Israel. Israel,
Israel, Charlie Kirk, yay, yay, yay.
When the rest of us are like, we're
really suspicious because there was a
lot of public statements that were made
by Charlie Kirk where he wasn't so
thrilled about you actually. And now
you're coming out saying, "That's not
true. He was our best friend. He was our
greatest ally, our greatest asset. And
uh well, I mean, you betray your
greatest allies all the time. You
certainly do it to the United States and
spy on us and bait us into war and
propagandize our people and do all kinds
of stuff to us. So, he showcases these
two tweets and he says, fact that same
night before the assassination, Josh
Hammer told us he had a meeting with
Charlie where he claimed Charlie hadn't
changed his mind on Israel. He neglected
to say anything about Charlie's group
chat statement from the previous day. In
fact, Josh Hammer was in a a group chat
where Charlie admitted he was going to
have to abandon the pro-Israel cause.
Yet, Hammer remained completely silent
about the about this and called Candace
Owens a liar for claiming Charlie's
stance on Israel was shifting. So, he's
been denying this. In fact, Josh Hammer
knew about the letter to Netanyahu, but
remained quiet and let others break the
story. Why is Josh Hammer calling people
liars for making true claims while
remaining silent on key pieces of
insider information himself that refute
his own claims? Watch Josh Hammer tell
you about being in the group chat and
tell you Charlie wasn't shifting his
stance. This now confirmed to be untrue
and it turns out Candace Owens was
telling the truth. Why did Hammer lie
about Candace and not produce this
information himself? Let's watch.
>> And it was really only over the past, I
don't know, year and a half or so that I
would say that we became closer. I
started going on his show, the Charlie
Kirk show, wildly popular podcast radio
show. I started going on the show more
often and we started talking very
frequently. He formed a small group
chat. There were probably seven or eight
of us total in this group chat there. He
called it his brain trust. His brain
trust for thinking about Israel, for
thinking about Jewish Christian
relations. He was very concerned about
rising anti-semitism. This is something
that he was a an adamant opponent of.
Charlie, if you look at Campus Thomas
for the past couple years, he wasn't
just getting asked about Israel. was he
was not just getting asked about
two-state solution, about Gaza, borders,
all this up there. No, he he was getting
asked about like the Talmud, which is
crazy. And he actually like was able to
provide very good answers, you know,
better answers than probably 98% of Jews
probably could offer there. So, we
talked a little bit about that sort of
stuff, frankly. But above all, we really
strategize about how to turn back the
tide against rising anti-semitism and
anti-Israel sentiment on the American
right. Does that make any sense to you
at all? Why above all and anything what
Charlie you know we would talk about a
lot of different things and you know
Charlie Kirk who was absolutely an
America first guy and this guy Josh
Hammer is trying to claim that above all
let's just rewind that a bit. He says
above all Charlie we really just wanted
to talk about how we could just change
minds about Israel. Oh,
>> Like was able to provide very good
answers, you know, better answers than
probably 98% of Jews probably could
offer there. So, we talked a little bit
about that sort of stuff, frankly. But
above all, we really strategize about
how to turn back the tide against rising
anti-semitism and anti-Israel sentiment
on the American right in Republican
party circles among young Gen Z
conservative activists there. And it it
got to the point where these campus
talks that Charlie was doing, give or
take, these are his words, not mine. He
would say that roughly half 50% of the
questions that he got asked were all on
Israel Jews, which first of all is
disturbing. It's mindboggling. It's
frankly disturbing. That's not a sign of
a healthy society. So that's sobering in
and of itself. But because of that, he
did organize this Zoom call the night
before he tragically was murdered. So
the Utah Valley University event where
he tragically was killed just a day that
will live in infamy to borrow the FDR
phrase from many decades ago. So that
was supposed to be the first of a series
of events supposed to be the first
launching a campus tour. So basically
before he set foot the first event he
wanted kind of an hour long kind of prep
call. So it was me a right-wing rabbi
friend of mine who lives in in Jerusalem
Pesak Williliki a couple of his
producers and there was one Christian
pastor and that was basically it. And
Charlie had a list of questions, you
know, how do I respond when the students
ask me about starvation, famine,
genocide, borders, two-state solution,
this that there. But the mere fact that
he was seeking our counsel and we
communicated on a virtually daily basis
through this active group chat and one
and one one-on-one.
The fact that we were doing that along
the fact that he had that particular
Zoom call with people like me the night
before he he he was killed, I I think
really profoundly calls into question
this narrative that he was getting ready
to renounce his wellestablished lifelong
support for the Jewish people, for the
state of Israel.
Who was in the Zoom call? Um, and were
they did they all I mean just normal
question to ask, were they all Jewish
Zionists?
Fair enough question because what if
Charlie Kirk actually in the Zoom call
said, "I'm abandoning the pro-Israel
cause this is causing me a lot of
problems and some of you are pulling
your funding and doing all these things
and I'm sick of it and you know that
he's dead and now they can all do deny."
They could just deny it. They could all
sit there and say, "No, he was a friend
to Israel. He was just really really
concerned about how Americans were
perceiving Israel." Like that was his
number one concern. That was his primary
concern. Who's buying that? Josh Hammer
also um so when he when he tweeted out
this there should be public executions
for all of you you know for Donald Trump
saying there should be public ex
executions and he says based well on the
day of Charlie Kirk's death so that was
the day before he tweet he retweets a
12-year-old tweet the day before about
public executions from Donald Trump 12
years ago and then on the day of the of
his assassination he writes public
execution he writes this okay so Sam
Parker's pointing this out. He's also
pointing out um
some of the things that Josh Hammer has
said if uh says you know if you think
every accusation is a confession. He
says like Josh Hammer tweeted these
things out Jew hatred is inherent in the
European DNA. He wrote Europe will never
change. Jew hatred is inherent in its
collective DNA.
Uh and he says I'm Jewish proudly. I
advocate every single day of my life for
the Jewish people and for the Jewish
state of Israel.
So this guy has every reason to lie
about Charlie Kirk's shifting stance,
right? I mean has uh you know he
absolutely could lie about about this
stance. And then he says um at the end
of this Sam Parker says, "Now go read
about the parallels between the JFK,
RFK, MLK, and now CJK assassinations."
I'll do you one better. Um let's watch
this. This is James Lee. He did a great
analysis on the parallels of these
various different assassinations.
>> Every single one of these cases based on
the evidence, JFK, RFK, MLK, and now
Charlie Kirk, starts and ends the same
way. A, there's a lone gunman with a
politically convenient motive. B. A
bullet that performs like magic. It's
bending in midair or defying physics or
in the case of Charlie, stopping cold.
And see, right on Q, key evidence just
disappears. The limousine gets scrubbed,
the pantry walls get torn down, the
bushes get cut, and now there's a campus
getting rebuilt. And what we're told to
do is not ask any questions. Questions
like, who benefits from all of this? Who
profits? And why were these cases closed
so quickly? Was it in this case a
disturbed young man with a rifle? Or was
there maybe somebody behind him,
somebody else, maybe a handler, an
agenda, a network? Could be domestic,
could be foreign. None of that we can
say for sure. But what we can say is
that the story that we're being told
doesn't make any sense. So here we are
once again. In order to make all the
evidence fit, we're asked to believe in
a miracle.
>> Right? the magic bullet theory. We're
asked to believe that. And I mean, look,
at the end of the day, um
there there's enough circumstantial
evidence. So, when people say, "Who do
you think then killed Charlie Kirk?" And
my answer is I, you know, look, I don't
know. Uh I haven't been presented with
solid hardcore evidence, but I do know
that the evidence is very flimsy against
this kid, Tyler Robinson. I also know
from circumstantial evidence, looking at
motives, looking at a history of
terrorism, a history of zealots that
will do anything for their nation, uh,
including kill people, acts of violence,
right? When you look at the
circumstantial evidence and the history,
I would say that it was some radical
Zionist that either that hired a hitman
to take out Charlie Kirk. There was a
one, it was one shot. It just wasn't the
MMO of a leftist radical that was
wanting to shoot up, you know, like what
we're seeing in these mass shootings.
They just shoot their gun a bunch as
much as many times as they can trying to
hit as many people as they can. That has
been the MMO of the radical left, right?
The trans death cult shooters. This is
something. This was an assassination.
This was one bullet. That was it. And it
was a it was a kill shot. It was
professional. And there's motive. And
the motive is the Zionists that were
really worried about losing who was one
of their greatest supporters and had the
minds and hearts of young people. And if
they lost Charlie Kirk, they were
already dropping like flies so many of
their other supporters. People they
thought were supporters of theirs.
Tucker Carlson was always pro-Israel and
then he started questioning them and
saying, you know, I don't really like
what they're doing. Piers Morgan started
shifting. A lot of people shifted
against Israel. But if they could, if
they were to lose Charlie Kirk, the man
who had grabbed the hearts and minds of
young people, that would have been for
Israel, devastating for their future.
They would have lost everybody. And they
knew that. And that is why we're seeing
this giant cover up of he was still pro-
Israel. He's still pro-Israel. And now
we're getting these tweets where he
says, "I'm abandoning the pro-Israel
cause." Now there's more tweets to come
of him saying, "And I think they're
going to kill me." And then he's dead.
So I, you know, maybe just take the word
of the like straight from the man
himself who's been assassinated and look
at that evidence and yeah, I mean the
evidence points towards in in this
particular situation, it all points
towards radical uh zealot Zionists that
were so incensed by Charlie Kirk and so
threatened by Charlie Kirk that they
took him out. That is my opinion. Do I
have hard evidence on that? No. But I
mean, that is my instinctual. That's
where this is leading. And a lot of
people were saying, "All of you guys are
phony, crazy weirdos thinking Israel did
it. You all have Israel derangement
syndrome." Now they're all, "Oh, oh,
well, excuse me. Oh, these text messages
are real. Oh, shoot." They're all
backtracking a little bit. Here's an
example of that. Tim P said, uhoh, you
know, wait, what the f is going on? This
is crazy. And he shares these tweets
from Canace Owens. So yeah, people that
have been like, "Oh, you guys are all
nuts for thinking that Charlie Kirk was
killed by Israel are now starting to
say, well, okay, the evidence does look
flimsy against the kid." And the
evidence is stacking up against against
the Zionist Israelis. Not necessarily
saying it was the state of Israel that
did a sanctioned off by Netanyahu,
maybe. Or maybe it was just some
oligarch billionaire who hired a hitman.
Could have been either. But what we do
know is the story needs to continue. The
investigation needs to continue because
this story is certainly continuing.
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