Brandon Tatum Defends Charlie Kirk's Legacy Against Conspiracy Theories and Dishonest Media Narratives

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And if you don't plan on winning, you might as well go on today. What's going on, ladies and gentlemen? Gentlemen, ladies, welcome back to another Officer Tatum Show. Uh, thank you guys for all of your support. We got videos of I don't know how many 50 volunteers came today. We gave him a little tour in the office and everything and they were down there. They brought their kids. I mean, this was such a family affair here at the Office of Tatum headquarters supporting Charlie Kirk. We we we got all those shirts. Everybody's helping fold. We had a little lunch for everybody. I mean, what a beautiful display of unity and togetherness for a common cause. It It just made me extremely happy. I just wanted to share that real quick before we get into this. Some of you guys uh may know that I went to Dream City Church. That was a church that me and my wife, we are members at that we attend and so did Charlie Kirk. He had a freedom night that he would do every I think it was once a month on like every Tuesday. And I wasn't able to make it often, but he used to do it every night. And so after his passing, uh, Pastor Luke asked me to come and and fill in for the Sunday service for both services to just answer some questions from the audience about Charlie. And it was a very a very big honor for me to be in that position to do that. And u here's one of the clips. And it was funny because I was like, people may take this the wrong way, so don't take it the wrong way. But when I speak in public and I do stuff like that, I just I only know how to do it one way one way and that's from the heart. So just hear this clip. It's only like 20 seconds. But this is one of the preview clips of me at Dream City wrote a clip. I'm so saddened um that he's gone. You know, I was sitting in the pews and y'all had to play that music and make me cry. I mean, I can't stop the tears from coming down. But the the beautiful thing is is that he's gone on and he's happy with Jesus, man. You know, I I I'm not going to lie. I'm a little jealous because I want to see Jesus, too, one day. And so, he's gone on with Jesus. But you know what? They thought that they had ended his message. They thought that they had ended his legacy, but the joke's on them >> because he's happy and his legacy is going to be greater than anybody could have ever imagined. So, I'm I'm happy to be a part of that. >> And I mean that from the bottom of my heart, man. I you know, I know that it's people are feeling a sense of pain, a sense of of dread. Uh people are feeling incredibly sad, which which I know the feeling. I mean, every couple when when it first happened, every few minutes I would go in and out of just complete disbelief and sadness. Then I'll accept it and then I'll go back into in despair. So, I know what it feels like and I know what some of you guys are going through. Um, but on the other side of that is the question that you have to ask yourself in the mirror is, do I really believe in God or do I kind of believe in God? When when I say in my prayers and I say in front of people, God is sovereign over all things, do I believe that or do I not believe that? If you're a person who believes that, then you would know that this is not a negative thing. This is a a positive thing. And when I say positive, meaning that he gone on with Jesus, so he ain't worried about us. I don't know if God let you see us or not, but he gone on with Jesus. Well done, my faithful servant. No more pain, no more suffering, no more ailments of this world. So y'all have g given him a chance to meet his savior which is the great which is which is which is the s the end of what we all want to happen for us. Now of course we don't want it to happen like that but if God allows that to happen then that's God's plan. And if you believe in it then Charlie went on to a better place and God is going to turn this into something bigger than it ever could have been while Charlie was alive. And God always have a plan. So when you believe God you believe God's plan. You believe God's sovereignty. you know that you're hurting, but he said but he said, "My burdens are light. Yoke is easy. My burdens are light." Following Christ gives you the ability to to understand things better, the ability to heal better, the ability to understand and and outside of the carnal mind of the human of the difference between tragedy and transformation. And that's what I was trying to convey on the stage there. Let me take this thing out. I try a little zen thing. Uh I don't even promoting that company. But it's good when you do it for like just a couple minutes, give you a little and then you good. It's it's it's supposed to be a little healthier than smoking them cigars cuz I I love smoking cigars. I I literally want to go smoke them right now. I would smoke one in here, but I don't have ventilation in here. And Nick will be in here choking and he'll sue me for secondhand hazardous pay. Um secondhand smoking hazardous pay. But let let's talk about this real quick. It's the elephant in the room. I always call it the lizo in the room. Can Can we just keep the main thing about the main thing? I I am so disappointed in the fact that I go on social media and I see individuals and collective groups of people talking about something that don't have nothing to do with Charlie and don't have nothing to do with Charlie's legacy and have nothing to do with how Charlie lost his life. I like like I'm perplexed. It's like, why are we talking about this when the news about this is going on? When the guy who did it is over here. When the guy who confessed is over here. When the testimonies are coming from over here. The grand jury indictment is over here. The death penalty on the table is over here. But yet, people are talking about stuff over here. And the stuff that they talking about over here, in my opinion, clearly is not accurate or at best is causing division. So whether it's accurate or not is causing division. And my buddy ain't even in the ground yet. He's not rolling in the grave yet over the silliness that I see in the domain of communication on social media. I'm not upset as much with people who didn't know Charlie talking trash. They stupid. So what we do I care if somebody didn't even know me talking mad about me. Yeah, it's disrespectful. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest. I I will slap you if you step on roses and and and memorabilia of Charlie Kirk in front of me. I'm gonna beat you down. Forgive me, Lord. Pastor, forgive me. Pray for me. I'mma beat your You know what? If I catch you defacing. It's No, no, no. Hold on. Let me say this real quick. Don't get It ain't the Zins. Don't Don't get Don't get mad at me. Can I be real with y'all? Enough is enough, bro. I'm not telling people to go be violent or nothing, but you can't let somebody desecrate Charlie Curse Memorial in front of you and and you just want to let it go. No, you going to you are going to take a L if I ever am in the presence of somebody defacing any memorabilia for Charlie Kirk. I you you are going to take a L. I'm just saying. And I'm not gonna be a coward and do nothing. It's a face to face L. It's like, "Oh, okay. Come on over here. Come on, get this work." The kid that did that at Turning Point, you That's why I don't go over there cuz I'm not like the rest of the people. I go over there and see you jumping on stuff. I'm going to jump on you and then I'm going to get the cops to get you after that. I I can't I can't. Enough is enough, man. You can talk all you want. You can say whatever you want about Charlie. You have the freedom to say that. Now, if your job fire you, that's on you, fool. If they kick you out of the university, that's on you. You the one stupid and and not following any of the principles, but that's on you. But you go to deface stuff in front of me, I'm not h I'm not having it. I'm telling you, I'm not having it. That's why when I was at Turning Point and they they never did it when I was there because I would, you know, flipping the tapes, throwing all their stuff on the ground, throwing water on these kids. Bro, you you can talk right there. Say what you want. Call me names. You can spit on the ground over here. Do whatever you want. You get crazy with me at these events. I'm I'm going to protect these young people. And that's the same thing happened in UC Davis. That's all your little non-binary guy is. Just a little love tap. I wanted to round them up. And I'm telling y'all, God is my witness. I could have I could have defended I could have defended turning point from every single one of them. I mean, one hit of quitters each one. They were little binding. They were little nut. Y'all could y'all They had masks on, but they were weak and frail and shaky and stuff. I was like, "What the look? Can cops can I just beat these people up cuz y'all not doing nothing. Can I just finish this me by myself? Just give me some water. I'll take care of this." And then you put them in handcuffs. Let me do the work. Cuz these little cowards have to learn that they need to just talk and they start getting physical. Then we ain't having it. We're going to defend ourselves. I saw this clip. I'm trying to be a good Christian. Y'all forgive me. I'm just human. I saw this clip of Turning Point USA people blocking this nut that was pouring paint on on a memorial for Charlie. At some point we got to say, "Well, you ain't doing that. You can talk, you can spit, and you can do little images and stuff, but you go pouring stuff on stuff. We going to stop you from doing that. We're not going to put our hand in the way. You ain't pouring uh uh ink on this. You ain't doing it. I don't care nothing about cuz they'll push push y'all at the way and throw paint everywhere. Push them out the way. You're not defacing this property. You're not, you know. Anyway, when I see people talking about the Jews, it bothers me. The Jews did it. The Jews did it. They're taking responsibility away from the person who really did it and confessed to it. They taking they taking that they taking that power or they giving him power emboldening him alluding what he did to talk about this when there's no evidence whatsoever. So let's go down the food chain. Uh here's a clip from this guy named Nick Fuentes. If you don't know him, good on you cuz you he's an idiot. He is a narcissistic idiot. Don't let this fool trick your young people. Because now that Charlie's gone, he's trying to position himself to get the mind of the youth to be stupid like him. Radical, stupid, hateful, racist people like him. Charlie was not like this. Charlie would never say that you can't marry somebody, you can't marry somebody opposite uh not opposite, but of a different race. Charlie would never in his life say, "I want my kids to be white." Charlie never felt that. Charlie never said that. Charlie never discriminated. When when we first started Turning Point, well, he first started turning point USA. His best friend was a black woman, Candace. They were like this, bro. Flying on an airplane together, everything. I I thought they was in a relationship at one point. I was like, they must be Oh, that's a good couple right there. Look, they going everywhere together in a couple. Then when I got to know him, I realized they weren't. But Charlie ain't no racist. This guy is a racist. And let me say this before I play this clip. Don't forget what he said about Charlie before Charlie's death. Don't forget what he said. He called Charlie a fake Christian. He said Charlie should never be able to go to campus without getting harassed, without getting uh accosted. He said it out his own mouth. Don't make me pull a film. He said the most terrible things about Charlie Kirk and it made me so mad. You can go back and look at my Twitter, right? You go look right now. Go back in time before Charlie's death. I was on Twitter defending Charlie against this guy. They claiming Charlie's a coward. He didn't want to debate him. This guy is a nut. That's why Charlie would waste his time debating a nut job. He said all these negative things. I'm never going to forget it. I'm not going to forget it. And don't wait till he dead to come out and try to act like you cool or act like you kind of like him or act like you believe in his form of Christianity when you said he was a fake Christian. And now he's trying to position himself in Charlie spot. I said it on my ex account that he represents the devil. Charlie is representing God and the devil want the godly man's place. And so he's going to come on and capitulate and mitigate his real thoughts so he can try to position himself to be the next Charlie Kirk, leading young boys to stupidity. He's not married. He don't have no kids. That boy don't know what he's talking about. Okay. In a in a video with a furry. I'll pull I'll pull a tape. He was in a video with a ferry. I didn't know the gay stuff. So some dude dude had a bunny ears or something on him and he riding around with him all day. Went to lunch with him and everything. It's on camera. Did he did it talking about he was trolling? Bro, that's your you you like the shooter, your boyfriend. And you don't want nobody to know you up there, you know, man on your back at night. It's mostly the ones that are hyperchristian that hate everybody be the ones that laying on their back with some fairy on the back of them. And I bet that's what this boy doing. Go check his files. That's why he ain't got no woman. It ain't because he really so dedicated to man. He got cuz he got a back there. All right, let's play this clip and we'll go from there. Roll it. >> Time to wake up, guys. Some of this I'll be the first one to say the conspirator skitso thing, it's getting a little out of control, >> which is what he did. That's coming from me. >> Go. >> I mean, it's like we are truly through the looking glass when Charlie Kirk is assassinated. People blame Israel. I who fought Charlie Kirk because he was pro-Israel and being said to are I'm being said to be covering up that he was killed for this miraculous conversion. If Ben Shapiro was taken out next and God forbid, would Israel be behind that, too? I mean, that would be equally ridiculous. If it was Ben Shapiro on Wednesday, people would be saying Israel did it. Shapiro was about to become a national socialist. Like, what? It's crazy. Anyway, so that I mean, that just needs to be said. >> Funny that he say that. And in post-production, I'm gonna have Nick throw some clips in there. This fool literally when it first happened, he just said recently that it was confirmed that Benjamin Netanyahu or maybe he said allegedly that Benjamin Netanyahu offered Charlie Kirk $150 million. He said that publicly. He is framing this, but he's trying to back off of it so he can sound a little more reasonable so he can so he can sneak his way in and he can now say, "I'm the new Charlie Kirk." And let me tell you the trick of the enemy cuz he is articulate. He He's very convincing. He knows enough to know how to talk well. That's how he tricked the youth. I would never have a young person tell me go listen to Nick Fuentes. That man that say he about God and he cussed every time he talk he cussing and saying something crazy. Anyway, let's go to another idiot. Bosam Yousef. I think he was that is that is that the comedian >> on Pierce Morgan talking stupid? Do we have that clip? Clip three. That's him. He looked like a fool. Listen to what he say. Wrote a clip. >> Some of these passing it's never enough for you. You see, it doesn't matter how critical journalists are about Israel. It will never be enough for you because you want you want the rights. You want the right to suggest that Charlie Kirk was the subject of a hit job by Israel. You want the world to think that. That's why you said what you said. And that's why when I asked you, you went Yahoo says it wasn't him. >> By the by the way, I'm not even the only one. People are actually Here's the thing. If you continue lying to your people, >> right? I'll tell you what. Let's Let call call me a conspiracy theorist, right? Call me someone who is illogical. Call me whatever you want. >> If your government continues to lie to you >> consistently, this is where conspiracy theorists thrive. If you're not transparent, >> why do you want to be one of them? If if you want to cover No, no, no. I'm I'm I'm not saying I'm >> Why float a mad conspiracy theory about Israel? >> Because it's the internet and I'm a comedian and >> But it's not that funny though, is it? >> I actually a lot of people thought it was very funny. >> You have millions I'm sure they did, but millions of people follow you and you want them to think that Israel was behind the murder and you call me you call me an ill-informed irresponsible journalist. >> Bill Yeah, because I'm not a journalist. I'm a comedian. Remember, I'm a clown. I'm a clown. I'm a clown. I don't think you're a clown. That's what I do. Oh, I'm a clown. Actually, I'm a comedian. Comedians are actually over I think you're somebody who is so blindly hateful of all things Israel that you'll even promote a conspira >> the clip ended. >> So anyway, he tried to divert and say I'm a comedian. It was not very serious. Although he was pushing the conspiracy that Israel was behind this. He did it. Nick Fuentes did it. It's a whole bunch of other people on the internet doing that. They doing it subtly and they also doing it directly. There is no way in the world that before Charlie can be put in the ground that people are floating the idea and pushing this extreme idea that somehow he turned on Jews or turned on Israel to what end? Because if you're not going to conclude that Israel was behind his death, then whether he turned on Israel, had a difference of opinion about Israel or not is irrelevant to his death. So why bring it up? Why not focus on the mental illness and the evilness of these people who are on the left who instead of debating ideas, they want to eliminate you so they don't have to debate your ideas. Them getting them getting owned on camera. Instead of them getting owned, they want to eliminate you so they so they can have an excuse not to be owned no more. Don't let them trick you unless they come out and say, "I'm sorry. I was wrong. I should have never been pushing this Israel stuff. Don't let them come back and try to back off of it because the more information we get, the more testimonies we get. All of those things lead to the fact that that nut job planned and went up on that that roof and shot our friend and killed him. And and he not the only one that want to do it and that plan on doing it. But you keep looking at Israel, you're going to get blind spotted over here. You keep looking at Israel and then a pro-Israeli person think you can't be next because you think I'm good with Israel so nothing going to happen. No. No. These people are a threat. They're a threat to Charlie. They're a threat to me. They're a threat to the young people on campus. They have always been a threat. But there's a once in a generation nut that's willing to assassinate somebody. Once in a generation, you'll have somebody that one person that's willing to assassinate and spend the rest of his his life in jail. Let's go to Tucker. This is what bothers me about this. And I'mma play it. Wrote a clip. Oh, we got Tucker clip four. This is what bothers me. And and and this is why I don't this is why I don't fool with him no more. I don't want nothing to do I I I I I've lost faith in Tucker Carson. I used to I never really liked him a lot. I didn't like how he talked. Like he was very condescending and he's just weird. But I respected his gangster cuz he was keeping it real on Fox News. He was hitting him over the head. He would do tough interviews with Trump or anybody. And then somehow a tapeworm got in him and now he just say the craziest stuff on planet Earth. Charlie has not been buried yet. And this is the stuff he's saying. Wrote the clip. >> He did not like BB Netanyahu. And he said that to me many times. And he said to people around him many times. He felt that BB Netanyahu was a very destructive force. He was appalled by what was happening in Gaza. He was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country. and that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States and he resented it. Didn't hate Netanyahu. He wasn't out there with a placard saying that, but he certainly expressed that to me and a lot of other people. And there's no question that BB's defenders uh on the internet will call me a liar or a kook. Uh but that's a fact and enough text messages exist that I think >> it can be verified in pretty short order. Not that it needs to be because that is true. Um, shortly after that speech, there was a very intense attack on Charlie and to some extent on me. Not that I really noticed, but on him. I have no donors. He had hund00 million worth of donors. And so, because he was involved in a different project from just yapping on the internet, which is what I do for a living, um, he was dependent to a great extent on his donors. Of course, it's a nonprofit. And they went after him and tormented him. Not all, of course. Many were supportive, but offended by my speech. And there was a a small very intense group who were tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he died. >> Let let let's get this let's get this correct. I I just I lose respect every time I listen to him talk. Do we have that clip of Charlie Kirk at during that debate? >> Yeah. >> The debate at Oxford or wherever he was at Cambridge. We'll play this debate and I want you to put Hold on. I want you to put this in perspective. Even if what Tucker is saying is true, what who what does it matter? What does it really matter right now? What what does it really matter after he has been killed by somebody? What what does it matter? But then he goes on to say, yeah, he Benjamin Netanyahu and his donors, think about this for a minute, and this is coming from a person who has been with Turning Point USA since 2017. If an anti-semitic person like Tucker Carlson is on stage spewing hatred against Jews and conspiracies, why would a donor that's Jewish or that is donating to you because you are elevating the Zionist ideas that you have had since you was eight 16 years old. Why would they not have a problem with it? You can you can believe that they're wrong or right or whatever your opinion is, but you can't deny that. Why would a donor say, "I have no problem with you bringing this nut on stage in front of all of these young people and spewing stupidity." This ain't the Tucker Carlson of Fox News or the Tuck Car before he fell off a cliff. This is the new Tucker where he gets on there and he and he interviews a nun and don't push back on her. Not one time. He gets on the TV and say he will give condolences for Osama bin Laden's family. This sorry son of a gun will get on there and say he don't know if if Hamas is a terrorist group. Why would a Jewish person give money to an organization if this guy is the one on the stage prime time, the hottest spot at the conference saying stupidity? Now, you ain't got to like it, but you crazy to think somebody is not gonna have push back. I know many of the people who donate to Turning Point USA. Many of them will go to bat for Charlie. I've seen it with my own eye. They took care of Charlie. They love Charlie. Charlie could, you know, he was the man. He was the man. I seen it. I I work with Turning Point. I see him. They love him. Donating hundreds of millions of dollars to Turning Point, which is a good cause. But I I I feel the offense when you're like, "Well, wait a minute, man. You you this is what Charlie would say." And and how did he go from this to what Tucker is saying? This is This is what a month ago. Something like that. >> About a >> month ago. This is wrote a clip. >> Let me ask you, in the conflict of Israel versus Hamas, who's the good guy? believe both Hamas and the Israeli government are evil. But I think also that there is no justification. Are they equally? There is no justification for the murder and weird of thousands of innocent people and children of futile. Let's zero out. There's no justification, Mr. invading hospitals, for bombing innocent populations, and dragging out a war which is damaging Israel and the West. >> You've made that that point, but >> it's not a point. It's a moral truth, isn't it? >> Okay. Yeah. It was also a moral truth that the war started because 1300 Jews were killed and 200 were taken hostage. And when you declare war on Israel, expect a firestorm in reaction. Let me finish. I let you talk. Israel at its holiest day of the calendar year besides Yam Kapoor and Rashashana, Samat Kurat, the 50-y year anniversary of the six- day war. On Shabbat, Hamas invaded Israel, deciding to go recklessly to music conscases, and taking 200 plus hostages. They knew what they were doing. In one of the most cloistered urban environments on the planet, 2 million people live in a place where it's impossible to wage war. Impossible. Where they wear civilian clothing, they violate every tenant of the Geneva Convention. And the IDF, when they do something right, they get no credit. When they do life-saving surgeries of a Gazian child, they get no credit. When they drive leaflets, drop leaflets, they get no credit. But when they happen to bomb a place where they are operating their military from, which we now know from third party verified sources, hundreds of Hamas military operations are in mosques, schools, and hospitals. I'm sorry, the country that where they were living in relative peace on October 6 that all of a sudden we had a war and Hamas started the war. And I don't see people that were really upset about the two million Germans that were killed in World War II, civilians. A tragic truth of war is that civilians die. I don't like it and you don't like it. And they brought it upon themselves. The only operation and entity to blame is the leadership of Hamas, not the Israeli government, for fighting this defensive war after they were invaded. There is a good guy and there is a bad guy. I'm I honestly >> not the morality of a child. >> Well, instead Well, hold on. It's interesting you say that because a child who knows that Israel is the good guy, Hamas is bad, has a lot more wisdom than a student like yourself at Cambridge University. >> No. People can say there's text messages that exist. That's fine. But did anything he say here was untrue. He he literally across from a Cambridge student whooped him over the head with factual information and Charlie said the government wasn't the problem. Now I got more for you. Let's pull a clip up where Charlie was it was the the compilation. >> You got another one? >> Yeah, I have this one too. Let's play that one and then we'll play the compilation. And I'm not saying that Charlie hadn't felt some type of way about Netanyahu towards the end of his life. I'm not saying that. But this is the body of work from Charlie Kirk over the the years. Wrote a clip. >> The greatest trip I ever took was to Israel and the second greatest trip I ever took was to Israel. And although I've been there twice, >> I agree. >> I'm a huge supporter of the Holy Land, of Judea and Samaria and up against the terrorist organizations, Hezbollah and the Palestinian Authority. college campuses and I've spoke all I've spoke at more college campuses than any Christian conservative in the last couple years. Stanford, Berkeley, Brown, UCLA, University of Texas, University of Michigan, Michigan State University, you name it, I've probably spoken at it, major universities or states all across the country from Montana State to Maine. And I am confronted many times by young Christians that believe that Israel is an oppressive apartheid state that basically should not exist in its current form. And so I I am here to clearly communicate to you that we have to do a much better job of of communicating um of conveying I should say the geopolitical significance of the state of Israel. Um the the world's a better place because of the state of Israel. We have all three monotheistic religions represented in the Israeli Knesset and the Israeli Supreme Court. Uh Israel actually expresses freedom of religion. I'll never forget when I was driving down to Hebron last year and you're driving down south from Jerusalem and there's this sign and and I don't speak I don't speak Arabic nor do I speak Hebrew. So I turned to my driver I said what does that sign say? There was no English translation and there was a arrow in the middle and an arrow to the right. Arrow to the left and the arrows to the right and left were red and the arrow in the middle was black or some other um uh not a warning color. And so I said, "What does that mean?" They said, "Well, if we turn right, you'll die." "What do you mean you'll die?" Well, if you turn right, you go into the Palestinian Authority controlled territories, and as a Christian, a Westerner, or a Jew, they'll kill you. It's like, well, what kind of ridiculous stubble standard here? If Arabs come into the Israeli occupied areas, they're given benefits and rights to vote. You go into the Palestinian Authority areas, Palestinian Authority controlled areas, get your head cut off. That was a really interesting moment for me. Now, I can look at that video and say it's a little older video of Charlie. The one at Cambridge is a more modern video, but let's look at this other video that I seen of Tucker saying what he's saying and Charlie at events publicly. These are these are these are not old events. This is public events that Charlie has had. And this is a little compilation that I saw with Tucker in these events where Charlie is literally in part debunking that what Tucker is saying was the totality of what he believed. It could have been a frustrated part of what he believed, but it this is the it's not the totality of what Charlie believed. Charlie, me and Charlie were supposed to go to an event this weekend at Pastor Alan Jackson's church. the the biggest Zionist pastor in America. Probably I literally went to Israel with Pastor Jackson. Charlie and Erica were supposed to come and speak at this church. If if if somehow he hated Netanyahu, maybe he was frustrated with him, but he hated Israel. He ch he was he was changing he had he had changed his entire tune. He now don't believe the stuff that he's saying there. But he's going to speak at Allan Jackson's church. What are we saying? He was a member at the same church I'm at, Dream City Church. What is the stance of the pastor at Dream City Church? A Zionist stance. What are we saying? Let's play this clip. Roll it. >> He did not like BB Netanyahu. And he said that to me many times. And he said to people around him many times. We had we had like an hour with nothing. >> He's special. >> Yes. >> He's a special special leader. >> Oh, and he's everything a leader should be, right? I mean, just confident and direct. >> He was appalled by what was happening in Gaza. >> So, you know, it's funny. I used to say that, hey, if you as a gay person would go to Gaza, they'd throw you off of tall buildings. Right now, they don't have any tall buildings left. So, I don't Is is that too soon? I'm sorry. Maybe you shouldn't kill Jews, stupid Muslims. Um, >> he was above all resentful that he believed Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute his wars for the benefit of his country and that it was shameful and embarrassing and bad for the United States and he resented it. How do you guys reconcile with the fact that uh despite so many American first policies and sort of speeches he gives, he still very adamantly supports Israel, a country which at times seems to be opposed with our democratic values? He has a contradiction. >> Let me ask you a question. Is he is America first, America only? >> Yes. >> Oh, see I disagree. I don't believe in America only. You do? >> Yes. >> Okay. So I disagree. I don't believe in America only. I think we should prioritize ourselves. But I think there is a place for America to be involved in international relations. >> BB's defenders uh on the internet will call me a liar or a kook. Uh but that's a fact. >> Okay, let's put this in perspective. Does the videos that I show mean that Charlie did not feel a certain way later in his life? It does not prove that he didn't have a different feeling, a difference of emotion when it came to that. But we're talking about the body of work from a man that did not publicly say any of these things that these people are saying he said. Ask yourself the question why he did not say this publicly. Could it be because he wasn't convinced that that was his final stance that he was going to come come and take a stance on that principle? Could he have been still processing these things? Maybe he was upset but that doesn't mean that he was going to continue down that path. This man has spent from from from 20 I don't know when they started from when he was 17 to 31 years old. Charlie had been preaching this Zionist message. And he not just preaching it in a foolish way. He not just blindly saying I like Benjamin Netanyahu. You hear him articulate very clear and real reasons why he believe what he believes. All of them are factbased, not emotionally driven. Now, I've talked to some people that have told me that Charlie was a little upset, but not in a way in which he was turning on Israel, but he was upset because he felt like he was alone in the fight as a conservative because the youth and the younger people are turning on him because of this Israeli conflict. And that was what someone told me the pressure that he was feeling. You look at Bill Aman came out on social media just recently and made mention that Charlie was before he passed, he was trying to put together a coalition. This is online. Put together a coalition of individuals that can help with the messaging. There was a letter sent to Benjamin Netanyahu. It is mentioned that the letter was negative towards Benjamin Netanyahu. Now, I haven't read the letter. I've never seen the letter. But based on what Charlie is saying in all of these videos leading up to it, I could see how in the letter, what Benjamin Netanyahu said on television in part would have been true. I can see Charlie sending him a message, even if he didn't like him, saying, "You need to fix your PR. You got to fight back against this stuff." And it and it bothers me because I feel like that they are they are are are attacking or are are forcing a young man in his vulnerability and exploiting him in his vulnerability. If Charlie would have come to me and said, "Man, I'm struggling with this and this and that." I would talk with him through it. I wouldn't say, "Look up. You're noticing. See up they're bad. Up they're evil. Up they're up." And then everything Charlie say now from now on is all about the Jews. I would not advise him on that. He convinced me about Israel. And and and and and I'll tell you this. I'm going to say this and I'm going to move on. Why did nobody say this while he was alive? This is where you y'all need to pay attention to this. Clip this. Whatever you want to say. Why if if if if people believe that he was under immense pressure and being taken advantage of by donors and they were doing him in, why did nobody come out and expose that? All these people online exposed everything, but they nobody would expose the fact that the donors were coming after him and and pressuring him. There's text messages. Well, why did nobody say nothing when he was alive? Why you don't defend him when he's alive? Why did you support him and defend him when he was alive so he can come out and say exactly what he wanted to say with your support? But instead, when the man is dead and he cannot defend himself, I feel like some people could be taking advantage of the situation. I wouldn't wait till my You know, I wouldn't wait. No, hold on, bro. You said what? All right. All right. I'll do it so you don't have to do it. Let me pull up my social media. I heard that these people are pressuring my friend. I don't know their names, but you know who you are. And you better cut this out. I'm going blast you. Matter of fact, come on my show. Do this. Do that. Do that. Let's do this. it. Mind you, on Tucker's Carson show, Charlie Kirk was on Tucker Carlson show, wasn't he? Recently. That wasn't his last interview. His last interview was with Ben Shapiro, the biggest Jew of them all. But he did go on Tucker Carson show. I didn't hear him talk about Israel this way on Tucker show. Tucker didn't bring up nothing about this stuff on his show that I know of. There's no clips. You ain't going to see no clips of him on Tucker show bashing Israel in the way in which Tucker is saying he was and that he hated or disliked Netanyahu hated him, whatever he said he did. You won't see Charlie saying this on anybody's show. So why then after he's passed all of a sudden the narrative is that unequivocally he was completely turning on Israel? I think personally if you hate Israel, you need Israel to be wrong in every scenario, every situation. And now the biggest Zionist supporter of Israel in his death, you can now make him into being anti-Israel. You can make him into being uh he was against the Jews. Even he didn't even believe the Jews were right. Even he was turning on the Jews. Even he didn't agree with the war. But yet you got a body of work from this man that's that's articulating clearly why the war exists and who's the good guy and who's the bad guy. Okay. All right. Is that enough, Nick? Did I Did I beat that horse enough? All right. Let's go to the killer because this is what we should be talking about anyway. The killer. So I want to play Monteel Williams clip first. And and to me, beyond the Jew thing, this is a bigger issue. The Jew stuff is is fantasy world. The Jews, the Jews, these people can see Jews in anything, man. They can be they can be they can be pouring some tea and the bag breaking, the tea, the tea bag breaking. They like technically the tea company made their bags from Israel. So the Jews are trying to poison me, you know. Technically Charlie was a Zionist, but then he said Benjamin Netanyahu was not doing what he wanted, so they killed him. I put I put my life on it. Go listen to anybody who hate Jews. They will find a way to make Jews responsible for everything. They uh what's his name? Jeffrey Epstein. It's like it's not about what Jeffrey Epstein did to them women. It's about the fact that he was a part of he was a Jew. You know, he was messing with the Jews. It's like, "No, no, he abused people. Let's talk about that." No, no, it's that he was a msad agent blackmailing people connected to the Jews. Nothing about the victims. It's about his connection to Jews. That's what we see now. He may been. I don't care. I mean, that the victim don't care if he was with the Jews or not. He was abusing them. He's going to jail not from being with the Jews. He's going to jail for what he did to people who were innocent. What else they say with the Jews? The moonland. And they probably fake the fake the moonland was fake because the Jews said it. Jews got telescopes and Jews run the Jews run the world. The Jews are struggling to run Israel. What you mean they run the world? Okay. But the Jews got to be a part of something. The Jews run our banks. The Jews run pornography. Well, one of the biggest pornographic pornographic sites is uh Only Fans. They're they're gross. They're making billions of dollars more every year and it's not run by a Jew. Some of the even even the the the the porn hub and all that other like the whole conglomerate, I don't know what the parent name is that that that's not even run by Jew. It just so happen to be a Jew is in the investment company but have no ownership in that thing but they but because a Jew is an investment company therefore the company is run is running porn pornography by the Jews. I I just even Charlie made a distinction between Jews and the secular Jews who are stupid. But but everybody else got to say all the Jews. Jew run by the Jews. No. No. Run by secular Jews who are leftists. That's the Jews we talking just like black folks. No, don't say the black. Don't say black people support Democrat. No, them black people support Democrats. It ain't black. It's them blacks. We ain't doing that. We don't vote for that stuff. We are Christians. We believe in God. We don't vote for Camala Harrison. She ain't even a Christian. Same thing with the Jews. No, them Jews are voting for all this stuff and donate all their money to all these causes and into pornography and all this. That's them. These Jews over here, the Dennis Prager of the world, the the the the um I forget his name now. Bishapos of the world. You name it. You don't have to like them, but these they ain't pushing that agenda. And a ain't this funny? All of the hatred and in my opinion that the Jews get from these nut jobs, the Jews are the one that put the Christians on. If you claim that Turning Point was run by the Jews, all of us came from Turning Point. All of us. Almost all of the popular people that you see that's at the high and mid level of popularity has something to do with Turning Point. at some point they were part of the chapter. They were part of the black leadership summit. They were at they were in the in the in the positions at the highest the director positions. You name it. If you populate this point from 2017, you came through turning point at some point in time. >> Turning faith. >> And we ain't even talk about turning point faith. We ain't even talk about turning point action. All these people getting elected. All these people. The reason Trump is in office because Turning Point action. Okay. Now, now Dad Dennis Prager, I have a five minute video. I don't know how many they have five minute videos about Christianity. Prager putting you on. Then you go then you go to Daily Wire. Now, I wasn't as involved in Daily Wire. Daily Wire and Turning Point are like this campus tours with Daily Wire was doing it before Turning Point was doing it. And everybody that worked for Bishop Shapiro are Christians except him. Am I right? I think everybody work Brett Cooper was a Christian I believe or Catholic. Christian Catholic. Michael Nose is a Catholic. What's his name who I don't like that much? He did the He did the uh what is a woman? What is his name? Matt Walsh. Matt Walsh is a Catholic. So you guys some of the biggest most prominent people who work for TurnPoint USA were Catholic and Christians. I mean not Turnpoint but Daily Wire. Catholics and Christians. So you know but the Jews are the problem. But the Jews are running America Williams cuz it's crazy. Wrote a clip. >> Talking about a love torn child, a kid. This is probably his first real relationship >> and somebody was disparaging the person that he loved. >> He sat on that building for 30 minutes before he took the shot. Why did he wait until the first word trans came up, then he took the shot? >> You think he heard it? You could he could hear it. >> I think he could hear it. I think he also I don't believe he was motivated politically. I think this was motivated emotionally. Guys, guys, the evidence here is overwhelming. >> He said, "Charlie Kirk, I can't stand this hate anymore. I'm going to take him out." He the testimony from his and the statements of his family. He had become more left-wing. He etched the statements that are made by the left about Republicans and conservatives and Charlie Kirk fascist on the bullet casings. >> He made a joke about it in his last text. Well, it doesn't sound like a joke to me because someone's dead and about to be buried. So, it doesn't sound like a joke to me. So, so I'm just telling you >> there is an effort. There was an effort all weekend long on the left to try to make this guy sound like he was a conservative. That failed. That was passed around all over the weekend. That has now failed. The evidence has now come out. He was motivated by hate. He was motivated by left-wing radicalism. He got mixed up with some trans ideology in his life. We'll learn more about that, I'm sure, when more evidence and testimony comes out. We are looking around the edges of this for something other than what's staring us in the face. Left-wing radicalism got this kid. He went up to a roof and he murdered our friend. And that's what happened. >> Can we for one second understand that as we continue Scott just got all angry, got real mad. Face it. It's got to be this. It's got to be this. It's got to be this. Why can't we have a discussion about how long is it going to take for us to come back together? I am angry. >> Can we just let him finish? Scott, I'll let you >> I'll let you talk in just a second. Go ahead. >> Could we spend as much time figuring out how we bridge this and come back together again? You know, I used to have a a note on my the producers's desk when I did my show said, "We don't belor what happens. We try to figure out why it happens and come up with solutions." Right now, all we're doing is bellevering what happened over and over and over and over again. We're not going to sit down and try to figure out how do we stop it. If we want to stop after leftwing terrorist, >> that's actually exactly the conversation we're having is we're acknowledging there's a problem. >> So, anybody who disagrees with you is a leftwing terrorist. >> Absolutely not. But if they target a conservative and murder him in brutal fashion, he's probably let me answer your question. >> Yes, that person is a murderer and I'll acknowledge that. You said I I'm I am angry and I'm just tell I am channeling the emotions of millions of conservatives who were angry. They knew Charlie. They loved Charlie. They viewed Charlie as a mainstream conservative Republican voice who talked about issues that millions of Americans believe. He also talked about his faith and he did it by going to college campuses which are not normally hospitable to conservatives and offering his opponents a microphone to have what we always say in >> support of what in support of what? >> Civil discourse. >> Not only that, but in support of the first amendment >> and and make sure that people had an opportunity to stand in a room and talk. >> He was murdered trying to do what we always say. Why don't we talk to each other? So yes, there is it's not even been a week. So, you're going to have to give us a little grace on being angry about somebody who did what you always say that we should do. Let's talk over more than than a week's grace over two Michigan uh uh elected official. >> Stop. I can't stop. I can't do it. I can't do it. These son of a guns. They jump to the Michigan people. What? What? Why is it we need to find a way to come together? They murdered Charlie. What do you mean? There ain't no coming together. I mean, there there's there's no immediate necessity to have empathy for this kid and say, "Let's come together. Justice needs to be served. Then we could talk." What are you saying? Let's Let's think about his feelings and and this is not the time. No, Charlie is dead. He ain't coming back. We don't get a second chance. Screw this. I want to cuss. He ain't getting a second chance. What do you mean? Let's slow down. No, you should have said let's slow down when they were pushing that rhetoric that he was evil and he was hateful and he was a fascist. That's when you slow down the rhetoric. Now that this man done killed Charlie, he got to pay the price for it. I don't hear nothing about his first love. Somebody disrespect people say stuff about my because I'm married to a white woman that mean to start blasting people. Don't get me started with this sugar honey iced tea. It just it like like when people talk like Montel Williams, it enrages me. Like I want to be cool. But then it enraged me to say, "Oh, if this how you guys think." All right, I'm not going to say nothing else cuz boy, I want to say something. Maybe I should do it in do it on uh behind the payw wall or something. Y'all get my real feelings out there. I don't want to hear that. Oh, we need Oh, his first love, man. Him and his first love. He killed somebody. It's not that he went out there and argued with Charlie and yelled a little bit because he was upset about his first love. He killed somebody in cold blood in front of the world. And y'all want to have sympathy and and but the thing is they don't do that when George Floyd died. George Floyd didn't George Floyd is not honorable whatso mother freaking ever. He a crackhead stealing fighting the cops when he died. Charlie Kirk is just expressing his free speech talking about Jesus Christ before he got killed. But y'all didn't want to slow down the rhetoric when when George Floyd got killed. Y'all didn't say stop burning these buildings. Y'all on TV talking about it's mostly peaceful when a building is burning behind you. People didn't got killed in these protests during in 2020 during the George Floyd riots. Y'all wasn't toning nothing. Y'all didn't want to talk about nobody issues. You didn't want to say nothing about the police officer. What about the police officer's feelings? What about his burnout? What about the fact he tired of dealing with ends all day that don't know how to have don't have common decency? Y'all don't want to have no empathy for a cop when a cop do something. But you want to have empathy for a weirdo that because he he he want another man on top of him who don't know if he a man or not that somehow he need to get compassion because he because he getting stung at night. Just cuz you gay don't mean you get compassion. Just cuz you want to be a a what they call them? a furry. Y'all lucky I'm saved. I would be cursing and threatening people on here if if I if I wasn't saved. Let's go to Ted Cruz clip so I can calm down. This will give me a chance to take a break and calm down. >> Roll the clip. >> You said a lot there and we don't have a motive yet. We don't know yet. We're waiting. Obviously, we've heard what the governor's had to say with the course we know today. Come on. We don't have a motive yet. We We don't have a motive yet. >> What's happening with >> Really? That's CNN's position. He just happened to fire the gun in celebration. >> You You can't tell the motive, >> Senator. That's not what I said. And and I said law enforcement hasn't laid out a direct motive. They've laid out a lot of evidence here of these messages and what they have. They've said that he was a leftwing activist who hated Charlie Kirk. Pardon? >> Senator, with all due respect, you know exactly what I'm saying. I'm not arguing with you politically. I'm saying that law enforcement has not put a specific motive. You know that there's a difference of what they're putting in a legal argument than what you're talking about. And you're not even we're not even arguing about >> Stop. Stop. I stop. Hold on. Hold on. >> They wrote an indictment. What you mean they don't have a motive? He's indicted, fool. How do they write an indictment with no motive? You telling me they don't have a motive, but they have the messages where he said that he planned it because he have an opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk because he's sick of him spreading hate. It's a motive in the text messages that they had before they released it to the public. You idiot. And you don't have to know a mother freaking thing. You don't have to know nothing to tell why he did it, fool. Why would he kill Charlie at an event like this? Because Well, well, I don't need to see a text message. He shot Charlie Kirk. What text message you need to read? >> Play the clip. What you just said is is false. Caitlyn, Caitlyn, >> facts, hold on a second. Let me answer your statement because what you said is facts. Senator, with all due respect, law enforcement with all due respect, you're putting a lot of statements. Go ahead. Say, >> and I want to get back to >> We just laid out the facts. >> You You just said law enforcement has not made laid out a motive. That is objective. You just spoke to the deputy attorney general. >> That is objectively false. >> They did not set a motive exactly what it was. CNN should not be engaged in misinformation. >> Caitlyn, answer my question. that shows the vast majority of what this murderer is a Republican and a Trump supporter. Have you seen that polling? >> Let me get back to my questions though, Senator, because the question here, you're not going to answer that question. Are you going to answer that question instigations that you'd like to see? >> So, so you're not going to answer. >> I'm the one asking the questions here and the question. >> No, we were having a conversation. I understand that that you want say things that are false and then you don't believe that rightwing groups also you don't actually want the facts laid out. give your speech. >> That's not true, Senator. I'm asking you question. Go ahead. >> I I don't know what your question is because we have a delay because you're in England, so I can't hear what you're saying. >> You said that you believe that leftwing groups should be investigated. You want to know where the financing is coming from for protest. Do you believe that they should also be looking into right-wing groups as well, or do you believe it should only be limited to that? >> Stupid question. Look, I believe anyone engaged in acts of violence should be prosecuted and go to jail. But I will say there has been an enormous amount and CNN has been guilty of this of of both sidesism of saying gosh both sides are violent and understand yes there is some violence on both sides but it is the left that overwhelmingly celebrates this. It is leftists that have been celebrating. You look at blue sky and it is a cesspool of leftists celebrating the murder of of Charlie Kirk. If you look at recent polling that shows uh over 50% of Democrats saying violence against Elon Musk is justified, violence against Donald Trump is justified. You you you look at Democrats who do things like what Kla Harris did of giving money and and urging people to give money to bail out violent rioters and Antifa riots. It is only one side that justifies this violent violence. My view is if you commit acts of violence, you you should be prosecuted and and and so yes, we should follow the money. Anyone funding acts of violence, we should go after. But this is a left-wing problem. >> How can you argue that it's I think the argument that people have been talking about recently is what's going on with the Charlie Kirk case. I think people have raised that because there have been other acts of political violence as well when it comes to targeting Democrats. I mean, we've seen that with a lawmaker who was killed in Minnesota this summer alongside her husband. We've seen it with the breakin at Nancy. But the assassin the assassin with Hold on a second. If you're if you're going to say facts, get you need to get your facts right. The assassin there was not a right-wing assassin acting on a political motive. The assassin there was someone who had been an appointee of Tim Waltz. And he was a deranged lunatic. And yes, there are deranged lunatics who attack people both right and left. But if you look at murders carried out for political agendas, they are overwhelmingly on the left. Whether it is the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the two assassination attempts of Donald Trump, the assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaaugh, over and over and over again, whether it was the congressional s shooter who came to Washington to the baseball game and said, "I want to find all of those." We've noted all those disproportionate problem. We're also noting that there have been others including the Democratic lawmakers who were targeted just a couple of months ago. So I think that is the the point that people have made here. But it wasn't by Republicans for a political agenda. And by the way, that lunatic should be prosecuted and go to jail. So what I'm not doing is what leftists are doing. Leftists are celebrating that murder. I think the murder in Minnesota was horrible. >> It was horrible. And that and that that violent criminal should be prosecuted and going to jail. You would have a point if I said, "Gosh, let's set up a bail fund for that murderer." Then you'd have a point. But but it's only one side that is doing that. Do you agree that on Blue Sky there are thousands of leftists celebrating and reing in the murder of Charlie Kirk? >> Okay, >> Senator, I don't think that anyone should celebrate regardless of what that person believe is representative of how people feel. If you celebrate it, I think that's wrong and I think that's leftist. It's only left wingers are on it. >> Senator Ted Cruz, thanks for your time tonight. >> She's so stupid. It's crazy to me, y'all. I was struggling through that cuz I want to interject and scream in her face through this TV, but this is I can't go back in time or teleport. I don't know why these people got to be so disingenuous. If you're not a left-winger, why are you trying to defend left-wing stupidity? Well, like like I I I don't I will never understand these things. It is very clear that it's a leftwing ideology that that that preaches these level of violence. And the thing is that the people who are mentally ill are on the left. There may be a few on the right, but the overwhelming majority of these weirdos are on the left hypnotized with hatred. you there there has never even been an assassination attempt on a leftist in office. Donald Trump had two of them. They from the skin of his chinny chin chin. He didn't get killed after, you know, when he was when they at the rally. He barely almost missed that. And if they could, they'd killed him. Like, we don't know the motive yet. What do you mean they told you the motive? killed one. Dude came to had a gun in a briefcase. And I know I don't like Nick Fuentes, but the dude came to Nick Fuentes house. He He killed somebody. Then he he tried to go kill Nick Fuentes. What are we talking about? Stupidity. Stupid. I got a bunch of stuff I want to talk about. I get to these super chats and we'll get back to the thing. Let me let me get to these super chats real quick. I got a bunch of people super chatting. I think I see I hope I hope people ain't paying to say stupid stuff. And people paying to say stupid stuff, Nick. I'm going to go with the I'm going to go with the red ones first. I think we got one red one. That one is red. >> Yeah.$50. >> $50. It says, "Brennan, at this point, I feel that you have to speak about Candace. I watch you both and I'm so confused. This isn't from a bad place. So many are just lost and confused. What is the truth? I know I'm not alone. So many want to hear from you. So let if you guys, you know, those of you who have wisdom, you can see that I'm avoiding bringing up her by name. Can you see that? You see that I'm addressing points. I'm not addressing her by name. Why? because I have a personal relationship with her and I don't want to be doing that. I know a person. I text her just yesterday. We we have we have conversations with just me and her and I don't think it's necessary for I mean people want clickbait and want us to argue and want me to be want to be able to put in their in their uh comment section Brandon Tatum Candace Owens. I don't want to do that. I can't talk about ideas. Now some of these people that I don't know I don't mind blasting them but I know her personally and I don't want to do that. I don't want y'all to have clickbait of us arguing and me dissing her and her dissing me and doing that. We we we just don't do that. And that don't mean we all agree. I didn't agree with everything Charlie said. I don't agree with everything Candace said, but you'll never see me calling Charlie out by name. You'll never see me calling Candace out by name. And you'll never see them calling me out by name. It's about the It's about the topics. And these other people, I I don't I don't know them. And I think that they're evil. I don't think that Candace is evil. So me and her will have a discussion privately, but the but the the topics of concern are the topics. The ideas that are out there are the ideas that I will challenge. And I know some people may feel like, oh, you know, you should do this, you do that. I get what you're saying, and I'm not mad at you for saying that, but I just have made the decision that I'm not going to be caught on no camera doing that to one of my really good friends. You know, I disagree with certain things she says, and I pray for her. These other people, I don't know them, and they evil to me. All right? Don't play this conspiracy hate game. It will all come out. Uh don't allow these people to consume your heart. Don't get sucked in. Life is balanced. We carry the burden of entitlement of keeping it. It's what made you and I a good cop. Don't let that go. I'm kind of confused on that, but I think I know what you're saying. Yeah, man. So, I I wish I could just make a video like and be like, "This is what you're not going to hear." Like, they stop asking me, but I'm I'm addressing the issues that that are brought up. I'm addressing these things that are brought up. Hey, I don't know if you remember my last message, but just wanted to let you know that I that I did it. I'm the new Louisiana citywide chairman of Blexit. Unfortunately, I got it the day after Charlie was assassinated. I'm sorry to hear that, but congratulations for you. Send me a message in the super chat. Uh, I mean not super chat, but send me a message on IG. What's also weird is that the right right before Charlie died, he told me that he agreed with me on everything, guys. Sources is crackpipe demons. Trust me, bro. I mean, that's that's the shade. That's the weird part, man. Like, I don't know. I just don't believe in sharing messages from people that I communicate with unless they are they are aware that I'm going to share a personal message that they've communicated to me. There's I I just don't do that. I got messages I got conversations privately that I had with so many other people and I don't feel the need to disclose that stuff. Especially if they die, you know, at some point you go, "The person's dead, man. Let me just ease off this." Like, I know we had beef or whatever. Let me just take a break on this. There's no way in the world that if somebody I know personally die and we disagreed that I'm going to mention anything about our disagreement for a while. I don't need to address that right away. I don't need to make that a focal point of my conversation. I don't need to. And I view Charlie, and I don't know if he felt the same way about me. I have no idea. I don't know what's in people's minds, but I viewed Charlie as a good guy, a young man who was who was going through life, learning fast. He had a a a variety of ideas. He was very intelligent. And he was 31. I'm I'm seven. Hey, I'm I'm I'm seven years older than Charlie. So, and I had kids when Charlie was young. How old was Charlie? I'm seven years older than Charlie. I had my kid when I was 23 years old. Charlie wasn't even old enough. It wasn't even an adult yet. He wasn't old enough to drive a car yet. And I already had a kid. So, I have lived a lot of life or more life than Charlie has to certain degree to a certain degree. I went to college. I have the college university experience. I've had uh uh I was a cop. I played college football. You know, I grew up in the inner city. I grew up in the hood. You know, I have a lot more experience. And so therefore, things that I may disagree with, in my opinion. Therefore, things I may disagree with Charlie on, I disagree with him, but I don't cast him away because some of the things I disagree with him on is I think it's because of age and because when you live longer and you have get exposed to different things, you begin to think differently. But I I I don't I I don't feel the need to to air out laundry when the man ain't been put in the ground yet. there. Let me tell y'all, there's things that people have d