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Destiny Dismantles Conservative Twitter Files Narratives and Republican Conspiracy Theory Problem
Destiny takes apart conservative claims about the Twitter Files revelations, arguing that the internal documents show no evidence of government involvement in censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story. He confronts the tendency of some conservatives to misrepresent transparency as validation of conspiracy theories, while pointing out that Twitter's censorship decisions were driven by concerns about Russian disinformation and violated content policies. Destiny also challenges conservatives to answer for the conspiracy theorists within their movement, citing polling data showing significant percentages of Republicans believe in QAnon-related narratives. The discussion reveals fundamental disagreements about what the Twitter Files actually proved and whether transparency necessarily validates pre-existing partisan narratives.
The Twitter Files: What They Actually Revealed
Destiny examines the Twitter Files released by journalist Matt Taibbi, focusing on what the documents actually demonstrated versus conservative interpretations. The files detailed Twitter's internal decision-making process around censoring the New York Post's Hunter Biden laptop story weeks before the 2020 presidential election.
According to the files, Twitter was on high alert due to Russian disinformation efforts during the 2016 election. More than 50 former senior intelligence officials had signed a letter suggesting the Hunter Biden emails had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian disinformation operation." Twitter's stated reason for censorship involved their hacked materials policy, though this justification was contested internally within the company.
Crucially, the Twitter Files showed no evidence of government involvement in censoring the story. Jack Dorsey, who was CEO at the time, was reportedly unaware of the censorship decision. There was significant internal conflict at Twitter about whether the story should be censored and whether the hacked materials policy actually applied. Dorsey later expressed regret about the handling of the situation, calling it a "freelance" decision.
The Problem With Conservative Narratives
Destiny criticizes conservatives for claiming they want transparency while simultaneously spinning narratives unsupported by the actual material. He challenges critics to link to specific tweets that prove their claims rather than relying on secondhand interpretations.
"This is why conservatives lie when they say we just want transparency information. No you don't, you just want to be able to spin a narrative," Destiny argues. "Engage with the actual material. Why not link to the actual conversation and show me where it says that?"
He points out that all the tweets linked in the Twitter Files that were censored on behalf of the DNC contained explicit content related to Hunter Biden. While both parties had access to tools allowing them to flag tweets, the censored content primarily consisted of nude images rather than politically damning information about Ukraine connections or other allegations.
"Conservatives just really wanted to see Hunter's explicit images," Destiny suggests sarcastically. "Given the explicit nature of these images, it is understandable that Twitter would censor them."
Private Companies and Content Moderation
The discussion addresses fundamental questions about Twitter as a platform. While the idea that Twitter is a "digital public square" holds some merit, Destiny emphasizes that as a private company, Twitter doesn't need to abide by First Amendment restrictions. This applies even under Elon Musk's ownership, evidenced by Musk's refusal to unban Alex Jones despite Jones's speech not directly inciting violence.
Polling data shows that the majority of the population believes social media has a responsibility to prevent users from posting certain types of otherwise legal content. This suggests the public doesn't actually view Twitter as a pure public square but rather as a private company with moderation responsibilities.
Regarding the DNC and RNC making content removal requests, Destiny questions what "oversight" people expect: "It's one private company making a request to another private company to delete information. What is the oversight that you're looking for? Twitter has a right to review the requests, Twitter has a right to accept or deny. What do you mean?"
The Conspiracy Theory Problem in the Republican Party
Destiny shifts to addressing what he sees as a larger problem: the prevalence of conspiracy theories within the Republican base. He refuses to let conservatives distance themselves from beliefs held by significant portions of their party.
"You can't walk around with a party member full of insane people who think that Hillary Clinton murdered that Seth Rich guy, that had people with rifles showing up to that pizza restaurant because they thought kids were being held in the basement for Satanic rituals. You can't have all of those people on your side and not have to answer for them," Destiny states.
He cites polling showing that 23 percent of Republicans believe Satan-worshiping pedophiles control the U.S. government, a core QAnon belief. This isn't a fringe minority, he argues, but a defining feature of the movement.
"It's arguably the defining features of your movement. The defining features of MAGA Republicans are QAnon and Seth Rich," Destiny asserts. "You supported the people that you voted for, you supported the people in media that you encourage. You don't just get to moonwalk away from that after four or five years of being a literal fascist death cult."
Accountability for Party Alignment
Destiny draws an analogy to make his point about collective responsibility: "If I showed up to a group event with DGGers and 40 of them had hoods, then yeah, that's the stuff I'm gonna expect to have to deal with."
He notes that elected representatives reflect these conspiracy tendencies, pointing to Marjorie Taylor Greene as the Republican Party's top fundraiser at the time of this discussion. This isn't about unfair stereotyping, he argues, but about holding people accountable for the movements they've chosen to align with and the representatives they've elected.
When conservatives object to being associated with conspiracy theorists, Destiny pushes back: "Of course I will stereotype you. It's part of your movement. You elected your representatives. Your number one fundraiser in the Republican party right now is Marjorie Taylor Greene. What the fuck do you want me to say?"
The Twitter Files: A Mistake, Not a Conspiracy
Returning to the Twitter Files, Destiny concludes that rather than exposing government corruption or deliberate political censorship, the documents reveal a company making cautious decisions in an environment of heightened concern about foreign interference.
The censorship was "recklessly handled as opposed to maliciously," he argues. Twitter was too cautious and too quick to censor, but this represents a mistake rather than an abuse of power. The company eventually changed its hacked materials policy to issue labels or warning messages rather than removing content entirely.
"The more logical conclusion was that it was merely a mistake. They were too cautious in their handling of the story and they were too quick to censor it," Destiny states. "This is not an abuse of power but rather a mistake."
While the transparency is valuable and could set a positive precedent, Destiny argues the Twitter Files didn't reveal anything groundbreaking. The absence of government involvement in the censorship decision significantly diminishes the scandal that some conservatives claim the files exposed.
Video Transcript
the Twitter files are extremely
important because they confirm what we
are expected that Twitter's middle
management worked hand in glove with
Democrats to shut down the hunter
bideness or interview where is the proof
of that link is a tweet that proved that
he has you're on Twitter and he was
reported on Twitter linked the tweet
that showed that they had no basis for
that shutdown why not read what they
actually said it's literally Linked In
the Twitter threads this is what I'm
saying this is why conservatives lie
when they say we just want transparency
information no you don't you just want
to be able to spin a [ __ ] narrative
engage with the actual material why not
link why would you waste your time
writing this whole stupid [ __ ]
Twitter thread when you can just link to
the actual [ __ ] conversation and show
me where it says that you can't walk
around with a party member full of
insane people to think that Hillary
Clinton murdered that Seth rich guy that
think that the they'd had people with
rifles showing up to that pizza
restaurant because they thought kids
were being held in the basement for
Satanic rituals you can't have all of
those people on your side and not have
to answer for them it's arguably the
defining features of your movement the
defining features of Mega Republicans
are are [ __ ] Q Anon and Seth Rich 23
of Republicans believe
Satan worshiping pedophiles control the
US government
we're reading this okay
um your best friend what
Lex is your best friend
um I hope so unless the bridge Burns
whoever find out
X for him in a year now is a comp psych
student I appreciate his work it's a
professional AI researcher and engineer
professor and a communicator the recent
Twitter files Saga has been quite an
interesting experience the transparency
is a breath of fresh air however I have
a few disagreements with the general
take Lux seems to have with it
a Twitter thread by Matt taibi a
journalist was published on December or
in December 2nd 2022 known as the
Twitter files which details a story of
censorship within Twitter of both the
censoring of New York Post Hunter Biden
laptop story and various deleted tweets
part one the string of New York posts
hinter Biden laptop story typo
for those unaware or not entirely up to
date the controversy can be read about
here in short Twitter and Facebook both
initially censored this story just weeks
before the 2020 U.S presidential
election the reason included that more
than 50 former senior officials have
signed on to a letter outlining their
belief that the recent disclosure of
emails allegedly belonging to Hunter
Biden has all the classic earmarks of a
Russian dis or information operation
Twitter was said to be on high alert due
to the vast amount of Russian
disinformation pushed during the 2016
presidential election additionally it
was claimed that the story violated
their hack materials policy and fact
Checkers were originally unable to
confirm the authenticity of the emails
at the time though it was not disputed
by the Biden campaign
Jack Dorsey
who was the CEO of Twitter at the time
was reportedly unaware of the censorship
of the New York Post story eventually
the story was allowed to be posted on
Twitter though it was after the election
was over Jack Dorsey has said that he
would regrets the censorship of the
story and that the handling of the
situation was freelance with no evidence
of the government being involved to
censor the story there was internal
fighting within Twitter as to whether or
not the story should be censored and if
the hack material policy actually
applies here
the main takeaways from the section are
one Twitter was on a high alert due to
Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S
presidential election and concerns from
former senior officials so Twitter aired
on the side of caution
two Twitter's stated reason has to do
with attack materials policy though the
validity was contested internally three
there is no evidence of a government
involvement in the censoring of this
story
and four there was internal conflict as
to whether or not the story should be
censored in general no new information
about the censorship of the story was
revealed except that it was a freelance
decision without the knowledge of Jack
Dorsey the censorship seemed to have
been a case of better safe than sorry
with the Hacked materials policy being
the external justification the
censorship was not a result of
government involvement and there was
internal conflict as to whether or not
the story should even be censored
so this was the first part so
if you read through Matt's um leaked
tweets
um
they tried to make this sound like as
salacious as possible doing like one
tweet every 50 [ __ ] minutes because
this guy is either the slowest [ __ ]
typer or for some reason even type up
the thread first but um this was true
there was no
government intervention there was no
evidence of Foul Play there was no
evidence of external pressure and the
hack materials policy was indeed the
internal external reason that they went
for with censoring the story because
they weren't able to verify or validate
where the files came from
full stop any conservative saying this
was a bombshell or it exposed some huge
Foul Play or whatever show me where
show me show me where because they don't
exist
perfect
all of the tweets that were linked here
and here
oh the censorship of various tweets oh
also let me give you a little back there
link the tweet that proved that he has
you're on Twitter and he was reported on
Twitter linked the tweet that showed
that
they had no basis for that shutdown why
not read what they actually said it's
literally Linked In the Twitter threads
this is what I'm saying this is why
conservatives lie when they say we just
want transparency information no you
don't you just want to be able to spin a
[ __ ] narrative engage with the actual
material why not link why would you
waste your time writing this whole
stupid [ __ ] Twitter thread when you
can just link to the actual [ __ ]
conversation and show me where it says
that why would you have to give your
stupid [ __ ] spin on it link word says
it like it's this is actually like
unreal like what the [ __ ]
all the tweets that were linked here in
here were censored on behalf of the DNC
though both parties had access to tools
that allowed them to flag tweets every
single linked tweet contained explicit
content as it relates to Hunter Biden
although the fourth Link in the first
set of tweets could not be found given
the explicit nature of these images they
could be seen in the sources section
below it is understandable that Twitter
would censor them specifically
conservatives just really wanted to see
Hunters [ __ ] [ __ ] his throbbing BWC
that's what they wanted to say they
wanted they wanted hunter to flop his
BWC out and grab his crack pipe so they
could just [ __ ] jerk it to his images
that's what they wanted to see
I think I wanted to gauge response on
each two if I don't know yes Biden
wasn't in government office Trump was
the whole hilarious guy from this
problem is that Biden wasn't an officer
trip was oh sure but they're going to
say that Biden is still controlling the
world because the DNC and the Democrats
control everything behind the scenes
anyway it doesn't matter if they're in
office or not
given that no other tweets were linked
it can be reasonably concluded that the
censoring of these tweets had less to do
with sensing the hundred binding laptop
story and more to do with censoring
nudes of Hunter Biden
the issue is the DNC and RNC can make
requests like this with no oversight
what what oversight what do you mean
it's a PRI it's one private company
making a request to another private
company to delete information what is
the oversight that you're looking for
Twitter has a right to review the
requests Twitter has a right to take the
requests and Twitter has a right to to
either accept or deny and it's that's
all Twitter's uh processes like what do
you mean does RNC and dancing have his
private companies yeah of course they're
not government entities
or the extensions of the government no
they're they're private political
parties
to be clear Elon has been eyeing to
release the ship since before he even
came on board yeah of course
because he has no he's so [ __ ] he's
actually so clueless on this [ __ ] or
he's just a right-wing show I can't
figure out which one it is I don't I
can't tell which one it is but his
handling of this is actually about
unimaginably [ __ ] crazy to me like
holy [ __ ]
the idea that Twitter is a digital
Public Square holds Merit but as it is
still a private company they do not need
to abide by the First Amendment this
applies to Twitter after Elon Musk
acquired it as well with his refusal to
unban Alex Jones even though Jones Alex
Jones's speech did not directly incite
violence according to Elon Musk
furthermore the majority of the
population believe that social media
sets him responsibility to prevent users
from posting certain types of otherwise
legal content those are some poles
given the country connection between the
notion of Twitter being a digital Public
Square and the Public's view on how
Twitter should moderate its content it
is fair to conclude that the public does
not actually view Twitter as a digital
Public Square but rather it's a private
company that has a responsibility to
moderate its content furthermore given
Elon musk's contradiction of Twitter
serving as a de facto Public Town Square
but his refusal to unban Alex Jones it
is fair to conclude that Elon does not
believe that Twitter is a public Town
Square or Elon Musk is not a free speech
absolutist
and Lex's first tweet
um related to the Twitter files he
claims that the Twitter files releases
historic and it will strengthen our
democracy while I agree it's historic
and transparency will serve the public
good the Twitter files did not reveal
anything groundbreaking it is merely
revealed a premature censorship of a
story in which the employees did not
quite know what to do with it the idea
that the Biden campaign would call on
Twitter to delete tweets comprised of
Hunter Biden's nudes should not be
surprising to anyone the idea that the
government was not involved in the
censorship of the New York Post story
also diminishes the significance of this
release let me repeat that the idea that
the government was not involved in the
censorship of the New York Post story
also diminishes greatly the significance
of this release however I hope this does
set a precedent and that Twitter will
continue to be transparent and another
of Lexus tweets sequence of the Twitter
files saga continues to reveal abuses of
power where after the release of the
Twitter file supplemental this
supplemental material introduces Jim
Baker now fired Twitter Deputy generate
general counsel and formal FBI general
counsel Matt as reported by Matt taibi
or whatever as I stated by I don't know
how to pronounce this guy's name Baker's
history is controversial whether he was
defending the Patriot Act or when he was
under investigation for allegedly
leaking classified materials to the
media during which he resigned however
the Twitter files already claimed that
there is no evidence of government
involvement in the censorship of the New
York Post story here and the fact that a
legal counsel in one field would be
hired as another legal counsel in
another should not come as a surprise
well it may be fair to claim that this
is kind of an abuse of power given the
conclusions from earlier
the social media companies run high
alert from Russian disinformation that
your postory could not be verified for
authenticity initially the censorship of
the New York Post was recklessly handled
as opposed to maliciously the censorship
of the individual tweets linked to the
Twitter files comprised Hunter Biden's
nudes not any damning information about
ties to Hunter binding Ukraine I believe
the more logical conclusion was that it
was merely a mistake they were too
cautious in their handling of the story
and they were too quick to censor it
this is not an abusive power but rather
mistake a mistake that was arguably
helped cover up by Twitter employees but
eventually resulted in Twitter's
changing of their hacked materials
policy
to only issue a label or warning message
not removal of the tweet from Twitter
and reduce visibility of the content
but anyway if you see any conservative
try to bring up that this was some like
huge expose of like government
corruption I guess like our friend Benny
boy is doing here they're either lying
or they are just they haven't read any
of the material
even he admits it's not government wow
wait did he admit it or was this that
one snakey tweet where he was like
there's no clear evidence that it wasn't
the government hold on although several
sources were called hearing about a
general warning from federal law
enforcement that summer about possible
foreign hacks there's no evidence that
I've seen of any government involvement
in the laptop story in fact that might
have been the problem
um true yeah that is true I do remember
reading this tweet
Destiny one issue was that they were
saying it was all Russian misinformation
they said it had the markers of Russian
disinformation which it did when this
proves the DNC and those handling and
sense involved in censoring it the same
people claiming was Russia knew it was
real and not Russia fufarino link me
proof of that well wait you're in DG
chat lick me proof of that link me proof
of that
link me proof that they knew that it was
real and they still decided to censor it
oh wait because this whole Twitter
threat exists so go ahead and Link me
foreign
[Music]
how does a physical laptop sound like
markers of Russian disinfor of Russian
info you're a conservative bro so you'll
believe literally [ __ ] anything okay
if I tell you that I have photos of
Hunter Biden drinking the blood of like
six-year-old children you'll say that
sounds real so to you everything sounds
real when you're a conservative and you
live in [ __ ] Fantasyland everything
sounds real but to every other like
normal thinking human being the idea
that Hunter Biden would drop off a
laptop somewhere at some random shop and
then forget it with a bunch of
incriminating material on it that sounds
that's a fantastic story not to say that
that's not it means it's necessarily
false because apparently that is what
happened but that sounds like a
Fantastical story to any reasonable
person
Destiny isn't engaging I literally just
engaged you [ __ ] brain dead [ __ ]
see ya
sick argument Destiny lol bye see you
later dude go enjoy jerking off to
[ __ ] like deep fakes of Hillary
Clinton drinking Unicorn Blood
Jesus Destiny sounds like a partisan
hack oh Liz Patton did you think because
you're a woman you wouldn't get badass
banned boom
boom sorry we're holding the
conservative [ __ ] in my chat a
little bit more accountable you're gonna
have to do a little bit better than oh
you're a partisan hack Destiny also
didn't you know Hunter Biden raped kids
on the barisma board with uh zielinski
there watching as Soros promised that he
would give all the money that was gonna
go to our poorer and uh underserved
communities uh sent over to Ukraine to
get bombs that where the Nazis were
going to use to bomb Russian citizens
with their 100 gay Nazi army the [ __ ]
out of you [ __ ] [ __ ]
if you have an argument type it if all
you want to type is that I'm a partisan
hack well you're well you have you're
[ __ ] like seventh or set of knee pads
that just came in because your other six
have worn out from you on your knees
sucking the dick of trump the [ __ ] out
of here you type an actual [ __ ]
argument well you can't because now
you've got that ass ban [ __ ] more
Destiny is so bad faith today see ya
boom cast me disappeared like the ghost
you are [ __ ] and I bet you got
an outfit to match it you see Alexis
response to that post yep
we're still waiting for your link also I
didn't forget
foreign
I feel like when you're done playing the
connection between the DNC and those who
represent them in office and two while
none of next we'll say I highlight this
level of caution we take into the story
was about someone on the right wing do
you have any proof of that whatsoever
that if nudes were leaked of like Ivanka
you don't think those would be censored
on Twitter you're inventing fictitious
problems that you don't even know the
answer would be
also every single person that is a big
person is a direct line to Twitter to
make these types of requests I probably
could through my talent agency and I'm
sure any big like [ __ ] um I'm sure
literally any large [ __ ] figure or
any large celeb probably can make the
same types of requests
I want to be constructive when you say
haha conservatives would believe Hunter
drinks dead kid's blood is really
reductive and makes you seem like you
don't have an argument you have nothing
what are you talking about wasn't it
like 35 percent of Republicans actually
believe in Satanic ritual [ __ ] I'm not
no you have to you have to accept the
the ramifications of the insane [ __ ]
[ __ ] your fellow party members believe
that's your fault okay if I showed up to
a a group event with dgirs and 40 of
them had [ __ ] hoods then yeah that's
the [ __ ] I'm gonna expect to have to
deal with you can't walk around with a
party member full of insane people to
think that Hillary Clinton murdered that
Seth rich guy that think that the they'd
had people with rifles showing up to
that pizza restaurant because they
thought kids were being held in the
basement for Satanic rituals you can't
have all of those people on your side
and not have to answer for them so no
you will be held to account for that
[ __ ] because you [ __ ] supported it
you supported in the people that you
voted for you supported the people in
media that you that you encourage like
no [ __ ] you you can't just say oh it's
not unfair yeah you can stereotype
almost like that
um when you guys enjoy like no [ __ ] you
of course I will like it's part of your
movement it's arguably the defining
features of your movement the defining
features of Mega Republicans are are
[ __ ] Q Anon and Seth rich like yeah
of course I'm gonna hold you to account
for that what the [ __ ] do you think
you're just gonna moonwalk away from
that [ __ ] after four or five years of
being a literal [ __ ] fascist death
cult you guys are [ __ ] crazy no no
you you don't just get to walk away from
that like that doesn't represent us
did represent you and you chose it 100
percent
you elect they're like you're you're
elected representatives your number one
fundraiser in the Republican party right
now is I think Marjorie Taylor green
like what the [ __ ] do you want me to say
like Jesus Christ he's just a minority
the only minority is the minority of
[ __ ] functioning cells left in your
brain I don't know where the [ __ ] you
guys smoked it all off dude it was crack
or not there I don't know what you were
probably oh cocaine is the Republican
drug of choice
23 percent of Republicans believe
Satan worshiping pedophiles control the
U.S government
23 percent
you read Glenn greenwald's tweet
go look Jesus
go look and you'll see the whole
Mindless liberal pack making this point
a little Elon claimed there was
government involvement when taibi taibi
admitted in tweet 22 there is none now
look at types is it Tabby Tabby's tweet
he's saying there's no evidence of
foreign government involvement not U.S
wait what
although several sources are called
hearing about a journal warning from
federal law enforcement that summer
about possible foreign hacks there's no
evidence I've seen of any government of
he is congland just not read