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So, there have been some conspiracies around Erica Kirk. Um, and you know, I normally would leave a a grieving widow alone, but she's now put herself in the spotlight. She's out there making the rounds. So, I think that it's time and it's okay to address some of the various conspiracy theories that have been going around regarding Erica Kirk. Now, some of these might be true, some of them might be debunked, and we're going to go through a few of them. But first, let's just go ahead and take a look at some of the media rounds that she's been doing. Most notably, she sat down with Bari Weiss, the head Zionist of CBS News. Uh Bari Weiss, who Tucker Carlson says should have never been promoted higher than a secretary, has been promoted to the head of of of ABC News. Or is it CBS News? Which one is it? I think it's ABC News. Um am I wrong? Which one is it? Which one is Candace? Is uh Bari Weiss. CBS, she's CBS News. Okay. So, um she sits down with Bari Weiss. This is now a lot of people are suspecting some of the conspiracies around Erica Kirk have been that she's major Zionist. Okay, that her parents are major Zionist. That her her parents, her dad in particular, worked for Rathon in was the head of the Israeli division and was a top head, you know, that was helping design the Iron Dome. um that her parents are major Zionists that Trump she was Miss Arizona 2012 and the and that was when it was Trump's organization at the time. The Miss Universe organization was owned by him and the thinking so she's known Trump for a long time. She didn't meet Charlie Kirk until 2019 and there was there's a a thinking that Trump and his team actually set her up with Charlie Kirk that he that Trump was the one who facilitated the interview that Charlie Kirk and Erica Kirk met through an interview. She was interviewing for a job at TPUSA and Charlie Kirk infamously said, "I don't want to hire you. I want to date you." And then they started dating instead and then they ended up married married. And the this the theory is that Trump actually set them up and that this is, you know, the overall assumption and then there's also a conspiracy theory that we're going to get into about her her organization, a charitable organization linked to a Romanian children's charity that people say is linked to child trafficking. We're going to talk about that. Um, but the premise of a lot of these conspiracies is that Erica Kirk is basically a giant Zionist and that she's doing the bidding of Israel. And it is odd that after Charlie gets killed and a lot of people are suspicious that the reason he was killed was because he suddenly was turning on Israel that they tried to stage an intervention that you know he was and then even 3 days before he was killed he still said I'm get I'm I'm giving up on these I'm giving up on Israel basically I'm turning my back on them. So the thinking, the conspiracy is that Erica is deeply Zionist, that she's deeply entrenched with the Israelis or that she's blackmailed or controlled by them. So it's one or the other. It's either she's got the motivation herself or it's that somebody behind the scenes is influencing, blackmailing, manipulating her against her will. So it's either with her will or against her will. But nonetheless, the theory is that it's happening, that she was then made the CEO of TPUSA and she's now making the media rounds and that she's um saying and doing all these things that are indicating her her love for Israel and that she is going to be making sure that TPUSA stays in the lane of pro-Israel. It's the most influential political organization for young people and it needs to stay and it needs to stay pro-Israel and that's what the Israeli Zionist lobby is afraid of that Charlie Kirk was going to take in a in a different direction. Although much of the TPUSA youth are already in that other direction. Whenever they hold an event, you got a lot of people standing up and asking questions about Israel and foreign influence in our government. And a lot of those kids that are at those college campuses don't like any of it. So good luck to TPUSA turning that ship around. I don't think they can. But nonetheless, they seem to be trying. And it seems whatever the motivation be, whether it be by choice or by force, it seems that Erica Kirk is trying to steer you TPUSA still in the Zionist pro-Israel lane. Now then others argue, but Charlie Kirk is dead, so we cannot ask him. They'll say, no, no, no. Charlie wasn't turning on Israel. He was still deeply pro-Israel. He's still very much in the cause of Israel. You saw Netanyahu strangely uh say multiple times after Charlie was killed the same day how much of a friend Charlie was to Israel and he was a great ally and a great friend and you know we've seen this narrative be spun at us which is that no no no no Charlie was definitely not turning on the Israel cause. He was super deeply pro- Israel. And so Erica is starting to make these rounds. And I got to say, these media rounds that she's making are not helping with the conspiracies against her. Whatever the motivation be, whether there be a conspiracy against her or not, um whether she's controlled or she's doing it on her own, whe her her appearances are not helping. First of all, to sit down with Bari Weiss, the head Zionist of all Zionists, who was just installed at CBS News by the Ellison family, and she was re and she's been accused of being a MSAD agent. Then she sat there and did that stupid interview where she's like, "Oh, so you're misad. So what's miss ex? I get accused of being mad, but what is MSAD?" Like, is you know, this head journalist of CBS doesn't even know what msad is. That's how stupid Bari Weiss can seem sometimes. Um, she's made a lot of dumb dumb statements. I I don't think Bari Weiss is stupid, but I do think she's made some really eyebrow raising comments, but nonetheless, Erica sits down with Bari Weiss. That's alarming in and of itself. I think anybody who sits down with Bari Weiss, you got to think they're probably pro-Zionist because Bari wouldn't platform you unless you were. So, here's a clip from her interview with Bari Weiss talking about Candace Owens. The podcaster Candace Owens. Okay. at one time a friend of Charlie's, at one time an employee of Turning Point. She has been one of the main peddlers of these conspiracies and she is making a huge amount of money on it. She is building her business off of these lies. What do you want to say to her and the other people that are putting these lies out into the world right now? Stop. That's it. That's all I have to say. Stop. Stop investigating the death of my husband. I don't want to know the truth. You don't need to know the truth. Nobody needs to know the truth. I mean, it's just such a strange thing. Uh, but she says, "Stop." Okay. You know, by the way, she was much more forgiving of Tyler Robinson, the man accused of killing her husband. Maybe she's forgiving of him because maybe she knows he didn't do it. Something to think about. Um, okay. In the next interview, so there she is sitting with Bari Weiss addressing Candace Owen saying, "Candace, stop. Stop. Stop investigating the Egyptian planes and the Israeli connections or whatever this might be. You just stop that." Okay. In this next interview, Erica Strangely says, now she's supposedly a deeply Christian woman and she says, "Shabbat shalom." I don't know of any Christian who says this, by the way. That is not a phrase Christians use. Not even Zionist Christians. But here she is nonetheless saying it. >> It's those little things where again he would walk through the door, drop his bags, daddy's home, take his phone, Friday night, Shabbat shalom, throw it in the drunk drawer, and it was just all us. And that's what I always wanted to make so special for him was coming home. I' I'd always say, "Baby, I don't care what time you get home. Home is here for you. Your food will never be cold. It might sit out for a little bit, but I'll reheat it. It's fine." And I just want to encourage spouses, don't get mad. It's so easy. Don't do it. Okay. Super weird to just throw in that Shabbat shalom in there. I mean, did Charlie Kirk really come home, throw his cell phone in a drawer, and say to his Christian family, "Shabbat shalom?" [laughter] And why? I mean if if you if you are doing I mean that just goes to show how deeply surrounded you must be. I mean even if maybe he did say that every time on Friday and he'd be like Shabbat shalom to people on Fridays even though he's totally a Christian. That just shows he was like so deeply surrounded by people of the Jewish faith and then you know Zionist. I mean, you just sit there and think, so was it that was he just totally surrounded and he didn't have very many Christian friends and so it just kind of became habit to say or did she just drop that in there to like signal that yes, I'm still pro I mean, you know, obviously Shabbat Shalom, there's plenty of Jews who say this who are absolutely anti-Zionist and hate Israel and don't want to have anything to do with the country. But nonetheless, uh it is a strange thing to be saying suddenly in an interview and it's like you're signaling to the Zionist crowd like I'm still here and I'm still with you. Um she then talks a little bit more on a in a different interview and these are all interviews she's been doing over the last week. She's just been making the media rounds. She's promoting her husband's book. Uh and the the book is about him honoring the Sabbath which he did on Saturdays. Another strange thing. That's a Jewish that's the Jewish day. The Muslims do it on Friday, the Jews do it on Saturday, and the Christians do it on Sunday. It's very strange that Charlie Kirk would celebrate it on Saturday. It's just just all things that just are really odd. Um, but she talks about how they honored the Sabbath. >> Apparently, you guys used to actually turn the phones off at least for a day. >> Yes, Charlie would not he would honor the Sabbath. And that's his f his last book he wrote, Stop in the Name of God, is all about honoring the Sabbath. and he he had to train it. It it did not happen overnight. This is something that he leaned into. And on Friday night when he would get home from work, he would turn off his phone and he would shove it in the junk drawer and he would say, "Shabbat shalom." Shove it in the drawer. And he was full dad mode, fully with the kids, sports mode on Saturdays for college football. And he he could breathe. He had this sacred moment to just breathe and to rest and get get away from the chatter. Get away from the world world and just have a moment to understand that life is so much bigger than the to-do list than the small problem that you're facing that you'll laugh at 5 years or 5 months or 5 minutes from now. And [snorts] he he was really good about that. again. Super weird. Why is he saying Shabbat shalom? The guy was a Christian. It's just very bizarre. Um, okay. Then, uh, she also she says she saw Charlie in Israel. Let's play this. But just know that nothing is by mistake. Nothing. I will never forget the time I was in Israel with my husband, well, not with that was the second time, but the first time with my mother on a pilgrimage and I was standing in the ticket line and I remember looking behind me and in the snake of the ticket line was a guy who looked very familiar. I had no idea who he was. And I told my mom, "This guy looks so familiar." And as a typical mother, she said, "Go and say hi." No, we were late for our flight and I'm not going to come off like a crazy person with a That's just weird. That ended up being Charlie. [clears throat] Nothing is by coincidence. Now, did I did we know that that had No, not until we were like 3 months into our relationship and looking at time stamps seeing that both of us were in Israel at the same time. But nothing is by coincidence when God is within you. Okay. See you guys go blaze a trail. Okay. God bless you all. >> Super weird. I mean just to be Oh, we saw each other in Israel. It was fate. And then we went to and then they went to Israel another time and apparently hung out with Netanyahu's son Yer Netanyahu which he confirmed. Here's a photograph of Erica Kirk with him. Um now I don't know. Now I know I know she met him with with Charlie but she might have even met with Yair prior to Charlie but this is a tweet that Yer put out there and he says I had the privilege of having lunch with Charlie and his wife Erica in Jerusalem when they visited Israel a few years ago. The Charlie I met was so young yet wise beyond his years. I met some deeply knowledgeable I met someone deeply knowledgeable in history and geopolitics. Someone who understood the importance of Israel to America to the Christian people and to the Christian faith. He recognized that our shared Judeo-Christian civilization is under existential threat from both radical Islam and the radical left. May he rest in peace and may his legacy and message live on. So, okay, these are all strange things, right, that are like, why are you guys trying so hard to just go full in on this? You know, as people are suspecting, many people suspect the state of Israel in having a hand in Charlie Kirk's assassination. A lot of people aren't saying that Tyler wasn't involved in some way. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. But what we do know is that the official story we've been fed, it's full of holes. People are not buying it. So, we're trying to, you know, so people are wanting to to learn a little bit more and they're wonder. And there was a a large number of cell phones at the event registered to for foreigners, a lot of them disproportionately Israelis. Then you got these Egyptian planes and they made sudden stops and they disappeared sometimes on the flight tracker. Like maybe they made stops in Israel, dropped some people off and then went on, you know, they had some kind of moments where they disappeared on the tracker and stuff. So there's all these really strange things. And then there's this kind of doubling, tripling, quadrupling down of like, oh, Shabbat shalom. You know, we loved Israel. We're still and and you can't just stop. Just stop. You know, I very very strange. Okay. So, that's why there are a lot more conspiracies around Erica Kirk. There are people that are saying, "Let's look more into her." And I think a lot of us have been like, you know, let's not. Let's give the grieving widow a moment. But she's now putting herself out there doing a lot of different media rounds. And so, I think it's fair now to maybe take a look at some of the conspiracies. So, let's start off with her parents. Um, the claim is, have you ever looked into her dad, Carl Kenneth France? I don't know if I'm saying her her maiden name right, but her father worked the claim is that her father worked in the defense sector and even chaired the Israeli division of Rathon and was an integral part in the development of the Iron Dome. Um, this claim we could not verify. Now, he does work in the defense sector, but there is no record of the company that he's been working for actually having any sort of any sort of contracts with Rathon um or any of that. He's he's now dead, by the way. But, um there are no there's there's no link of him and this claim that he was the head of the Israeli division of Rathon. Not to say that that's not true. We just could not find that link and so it doesn't look like that link is there. Now, I don't think her dad is the important one. Anyway, apparently her parents got divorced when she was really young. She was raised by her mother and her mother is actually the interesting one cuz a lot of people online, they're kind of giving this, oh, it's the dad. The dad was the head of the Israeli defense sector and yada yada yada. And the mom, she's just a big Zionist. No, no, no. The mom is actually kind of a defense contract. I mean, she's she's in the she's very entrenched in the defense contract world. It's the mom who's actually working in the government. She's got various different companies all within the defense se defense sector. And there's some really strange activity with her mother's companies that I think could be eyebrow raising and certainly in at minimum show that you know look any company that has security or defense contracts or ties probably has a lot of ties to Israel to tech Israeli tech Israeli um maybe Israeli contracts and probably wouldn't want to piss them off. if if you're in the defense and and surveillance sector, you're heavily tied in with the Israelis. So, you don't want to upset anybody. You don't want to lose your funding. Now, this is Erica talking. This is back in 2020. And she's talking about her mother even uh why they moved to Arizona, why her mother moved to Arizona, and that was because she was going to be working for the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security. >> Can I ask a question? This might be off topic. How did you how did your mom choose Phoenix? So, she chose to move to Phoenix uh from Ohio because there was more of a um an opportunity for a female business owner out here. Um especially from the standpoint of she was getting involved with um the government, so Homeland Security and Department of Defense. And so, she had other business partners that were out here that were already in that industry. Um even one that was a mentor of hers. So, it was it was really convenient to be able to come all together in one place to really have that. Uh, but my father ended up moving out here as well cuz my grandparents had a home um out in Sun City. And so, um, it took a little bit to get everyone out here. Took several years, but by that time, everyone was out here. So, we had a little bit more family than just us. >> Okay. So, we know now her mother did work in the Department of Defense and Department of Homeland Security. That was confirmed by Erica. But also look at her LinkedIn. This is Lori France and she is the chairman and founder of a tech of GTech of E3 tech master's degree at University of Cincinnati. So she at least has these three heavily tech companies that are heavily involved in defense sector contracts. Um not only that, but she also is on the board for another company called Superfeed, which is interesting. Um, but before we go to superfeed and what's kind of strange about that one, these all of these contra these companies that she has, they're all very much tied to defense contracts. Um, one her own security company, the website says joint service achievement medal for classified operations during Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom. Okay, so she's clearly heavily in the defense sector. got a lot of contracts with the defense sector. The the company that they said that Erica's dad had founded was a tech uh or a tech, sorry. And no, he actually just worked for Erica's mom. So, he was actually a subordinate to Erica's mom. At least that's the research. That's what it came back at. It's a little bit confusing because I know that they did divorce at one point, but I don't know if he still worked for her mother's company after they got a divorce or did he work for the company um you know, and then when they got a divorce, he stopped working there. you know, I'm not really sure what that is, but but from the records of what we could find, uh, the dad also worked for AZ, but he was not the founder and CEO of a of a tech. He was instead in a in a lower position than her mother. Her mother is the founder and at one point uh CEO. So, here's another thing that was a little bit strange. So, Super Feed, Super Feed is um it's a company that's often heavily connected to TPUSA. A lot of people kind of view it as one of the same as TPUSA, but it's not. It's actually a separate company. And Superfeed basically is a a company that that gives campaign website, like campaign apps to candidates, and they kind of white label it. a candidate that TPUSA maybe is backing, they would say, "We got an app you can use and you can put your whole campaign on this app and it makes it great for campaigning and yada yada." And then, you know, the candidate then gets this app, gets the technology for the app, and then puts their own logos and puts their own messaging on it, whatnot. So, it just kind of looks like it's individual for each candidate, but it's actually run on the same tech. And Erica's mother is on the board for Superfeed. Well, there Super Feed was involved in this really strange scandal and we don't really know what exactly happened, but Carrie Lake was there was a a bribery scandal inviting uh involved with Super Feed and Carrie Lake and apparently they basically had tried to bribe her to to stay out of the race, out of the Senate race. They wanted her to to not run. We don't have any we don't have any clue as to who they wanted to run instead, but there was somebody else that they wanted and they were basically trying to bribe her to not be involved or they were bribing I'm not sure if they were bribing her directly or if they were bribing somebody else, but it was basically the the premise of it was they didn't want Carrie Lake to run and they said, "You know what? Just wait your turn is kind of where we heard that before. It's not your turn. Somebody else's turn right now." And so they wanted her to step aside and let this other person run. And Carrie Lake ended up exposing the whole thing. She like recorded a conversation and she ended up exposing it. And the guy that was involved had to ultimately step down from Superfeed. Now, uh, Erica Kirk's mother never made a statement about this. There's nothing on record about her saying anything, but it it just goes to show I think, you know, with the mother being on the board of this company, with these donors being very large and involved in Superfeed to the point where they could actually tell certain candidates like Carrie Lake, step aside, it just goes to show how powerful and how politically influential a company like Super Feed is. and the fact that Eric Kirk's mother sits on the board of this company and the fact that she then has several defense contract companies and the fact that they've, you know, received medals for classified operations during Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Iraqi Freedom goes to show that her mother is quite prominent and at the top echelons of the defense sector and political sector and where they intersect and I think it's a I think It's an intriguing question to ask which is okay if you are at the top levels of politics which we know is uh all the Republicans are bought off by Apac for example and if you are also at the top of defense you know if you are dealing with lots of defense contracts and have many defense companies then I think it's a fair question about how do you what do you think about Israel and exactly and why is it because you have deep held religious beliefs and you're just a Christian Zionist because of your beliefs or is it because you've got a lot of money in the game or is it because you're heavily invested? Like what exactly is it? But I think it's fair to say that you know there could be if your mother if your own mother is saying look we're pro- Israel because look honey we got all these defense contracts and we do all these things to help keep Israel safe and maybe it's coming from a place of I'm just a major Christian Zionist and one day Jesus is going to come back and and and then you know that's we got to get all the Jews to Jerusalem in order for that to happen because I'm a dispensationalist, right? Like maybe it's coming from that. Sure. Or maybe it's coming from a completely different motivation and it doesn't really matter what the motivation is is it kind of points towards this but you know that the contracts the alignment the affiliations all this point towards being heavily Zionist because a lot of people in the defense sector are and uh and if that's the case then is Erica heavily Zionist? One would think she was raised by her mother but of course you don't always have the same views as your parents. But then, you know, we don't know what was going on behind closed doors. And Erica Kirk has made it very public and often, and she's right to do this to say, I think she's personally right on this point that whatever squables you have between you and your spouse, you should keep it to yourself. Like, you shouldn't make that public. You shouldn't go talking to your friends about it. Cuz the minute you do, your friends start judging. Everybody starts judging. And then your spouse can't overcome it. And your private conversations become, you know, kind of a mess for your friends and family members, and everybody gets judgmental. Everybody's protective of the one that they're related to or that they're friends with. And so Erica said several times when she was on Charlie Kirk's show that, you know, she believed in keeping their squables private. Did they squabble about Israel? Were they not on the same page? Was Charlie starting to change his mind? Was he starting to say, "Look, I don't know if I could support this anymore." And even then, Erica said that it was an evolution. Now, she didn't know him for she met him in 2019. They married in 2021 and he just died this year. So they weren't they didn't know each other for that long really. I mean you know it relatively it's not that long. And she said it was an evolution. So while she had known him in that short period of time I mean just think since the beginning of the pandemic I mean really is what we're talking about. Since the beginning of the pandemic till now Charlie Kirk had changed and had started saying things like Shabbat shalom. like this isn't something that he would that was ingrained in him by his parents when he was younger. This wasn't a belief system that he'd had for a long time. She said it was an evolution that got him to that point where he was celebrating the Sabbath on Saturday and saying Shabbat shalom to people while she knew him. I mean, it's kind of weird, you know? It's just it's just I think it's worth um questioning like what exactly was their dynamic? What was her thinking about Israel? What were their what was their what was what was that all about? Were they on the same page? I think is the big question. And not that I'm accusing her of, you know, um anything nefarious against her husband. I'm not. But but at the same time, I'm also not not because I also think that spouses should always be the first suspect cuz they usually are. So I think it's fair. I mean, it's not like I'm being, you know, out of line, stepping out of line by saying, "Well, somebody was killed. The first person you should look at is the spouse." Now, I get it. This was a very, you know, she was not the person who took the shot that killed him, right? I mean, obviously, um, but, you know, spouses have hired hitmen. That's not out of the realm of I mean, we hear about this, so hire people to kill their spouses. I don't think spouses are, you know, it's I don't think it's out of line to suspect a spouse. In fact, I think that's what they usually do. But right now, because this is such a high-profile assassination, people don't even want to look at the, you know, oh, no, no, no, we can't. That's just so awful. you're just a really bad person if you even look at the spouse. I don't think so. I think it's fair fair game. You have to It's an investigation. Somebody's dead and so you have to investigate. That person deserves in their, you know, in the afterlife. I maybe God's already told them what happened. But nonetheless, you know, there there's there's a we deserve to get to truth on this and not to cover it up. We don't live in a free society or a democratic society if we keep covering up murders. Not that that's necessarily what's going on, but it's certainly, you know, something something's really clearly not adding up. Okay, so let's get to the claim that Erica Kirk started a charitable children's organization that has been linked to sex trafficking. I know this is a big one. A lot of you guys want to know about this. Okay, Romanian Angels is a So, the organization she started was called uh like Heroes Helping Heroes or something like that. was had nothing to do with it didn't say anything about Romania, nothing, you know, it was just like heroes helping heroes. It was something like that. It was sweet, you know. She she started it after she was miss uh and and I have family members and I know friends that have competed in these pageantss and they all start charitable organizations. It's kind of what they do after they win these pageantss and it's a great thing and some of them have really wonderful little organizations that they do and some of them grow bigger and you know they're not so little. But she had this organization. The thing is though is that the organization like a division of her of her organization was Romanian Angels and they partnered with the US military which is so strange to like pick an part of the part of the organization was like okay we we're now going to partner with this Romanian orphanage and we're going to like sponsor this Romanian orphanage. It's like so random like why Romania? But anyway, her organization uh worked with this Romanian Angels uh orphanage, and they partnered with the US military, which was the Marines and Army personnel stationed in Romania, and a local group called United Hands Romania to deliver holiday gifts, school supplies, and morale boosting visits to children at the Antonio Placement Center, which was a state-run orphanage in Romania. Erica Kirk, then in her early 20s, described it as a sponsorship program inspired by her 2010 and 2012 beauty pageant wins, Miss Colorado and Miss Arizona. She was runner up twice for Miss Colorado, and then she switched over to Miss Arizona and won. Um, it involved no formal adoptions, international relocations, or financial transactions beyond donations. Activities were limited to occasional events and shipments of toys and clothes. The project ended around 2015 with no public closure announcement and the nonprofit's tax records showed minimal activity overall. Now, the trafficking allegations posts claim, you know, online that the program snatched children from poor Romanian villages for sex trafficking, organ harvesting or exploitation in UK and Israel, disguised as mission trips or English lessons. Some allege up to 86,000 children were trafficked via evangelical networks. These ties to the Romanians uh these tie into Romania's wellocumented history as a European trafficking hub. This has been documented by Al Jazer, New York Times um talking about a lot of these really terrible child sex rings, but fact checkers note that reports predate or unrelated to Erica Kirk's work. Now, Colonel Otto Busher, this is the central hook. Busher, a US Army colonel affiliated with the Marines Black Sea area support team, was thanked by Kirk in a 2012 Vimeo promotional video for his unit support in delivering gifts to the orphanage. A social media claims he ran a child trafficking brothel at the nearby at a nearby US air base uh Mi I I don't know how to say that, but uh at this place, you see it on the screen. The accusations against Busher stem from a 2019 criminal complaint filed by Anna Marie uh Nuh Nu, a former base translator with Romania's Dicott, which is the anti-organized crime agency. She alleged that there was a prostitution ring involving Busher, his agitant Lloyd Sparks, and others backed by messages, photos, and audio evidence of payments for services. Okay, so there was an allegation against this colonel that he was running some sort of a sex ring and Colonel Otto Busher was also connected to Erica Kirk's um organization and Erica Kirk's organization strangely helped this Romanian orphanage which I I do you know it's like why would you choose Romania? I mean if it were me you know and I I don't know why she chose Romania. She's not Romanian, I don't think. I mean, maybe, but I pretty sure her her heritage is Swedish. I mean, if it were me and I were picking an orphanage and I wanted to pick one around the world, I'd probably pick like a Vietnamese one or something, right? or I don't I don't so it just seems it so that part is like why would you choose that particular orphanage to work with and you're like sponsoring these kids to do you know all these variet you know I don't know exactly what you're but but then you've got this colonel and he's involved with your organization and now he's also being accused of running a sex child in like a child sex ring with this orphanage. Now no charges were filed against Busher or others. The probe stalled due to a um a a US Romania agreement granting the US extr territorial jurisdiction over its personnel. So that's kind of like what we see with Israel now, right? Like they whisk the guy like who was that guy that just got he was arrested for trying to have sex with like a 14-year-old or something and he was working for the Israelis in Netanyahu's office and they whisked him away and he's never going to see jail time. and they're not bringing him back, right? Like he just got whisked away and Israel says, "Oh, we're going to we're going to handle it. Don't worry." And this guy's like sipping, you know, martinis somewhere in Israel. Like a lot of a lot of guys that run off to Israel after they've been accused of rape or pedophilia here in the United States. And that's a that's a true fact. So the US steps in and says, "No, nope. You're not allowed to investigate this guy." Like, "We'll we'll do it. Trust. We'll do it." So that's where the where the allegations come from is that she's tied to this Romanian orphanage and to this colonel and the colonel was accused of running a sex ring, a child sex ring in Romania and uh and there's the allegations are thousands and thousands of children and the US government essentially were able to get away with um ensuring that that investigation got shut down because of a 2001 US Romania agreement. weird. Uh, okay. The last claim that uh, you know, and again, I'm not I'm not I'm not saying that Erica knew anything about it or that she was involved in it. You know, I'm not saying that she is. I you know, so I'm just saying that I'm just telling you what's happened here. this is this is why there's that allegation out there. I do think it's interesting and strange to sponsor of everywhere in the world a Romanian orphanage and then it just so happens that this orphanage is connected to these you know Christian organizations and to this colonel and evangelicals and Israel and all this weird stuff and then it turns out that there's allegations that some of these kids were trafficked and for what I mean were they used in blackmail operations um you know more Epstein style uh blackmail I don't No, you know, but I I wouldn't I wouldn't uh rule that out. That's for sure. Okay. The last allegation, the last conspiracy around Erica Kirk is the question of um the thought that Trump introduced Charlie and Erica by setting her up for an interview with Charlie because Erica was Miss um Miss Arizona 2012. So that was in the Trump organization. So she had met Trump and known Trump well before she had met Charlie. There's also some um claims that she was a casting director for Miss uh the Miss Universe pageant, which means she would have worked directly for Trump. However, there is no evidence to support any of this. While Erica did compete in the 2012 MissUSA pageant, which Trump did own at the time, their paths didn't cross in any meaningful way then, and no reports link Trump to facilitating her TPUSA application or the 2018 meeting. Trump and Charlie had a close professional alliance. Charlie was a key Trump supporter and adviser, but Erica's entry into TPUSA was driven by internal recommendations such as from TPUSA executive Andrew Kulvit, who we've been hearing a lot from lately, haven't we? Who suggested Charlie interview her. So Andrew Kulvit was the one who said, "Hey, I got a girl for you." That's kind of interesting because Andrew's definitely been, you know, he's the one that said that Charlie had a neck of steel and um so yeah, so that's so it wasn't Trump, but it was Andrew Kulit. I also find that interesting cuz I don't know, you know, what his ties are or if he's tied to anything at all. And you know, that's the question that Candace is asking that's getting her in hot water that's causing Erica to say, "Stop. Stop. Just stop." But no, I don't think anybody should stop. I think that it's fair to ask questions. The more questions, the marrier. Um, that's what we need to be we need to be asking question after question after question, especially when there's uh this the investigation should still be ongoing. We still haven't seen Tyler Robinson convicted. We haven't even seen, you know, a day in court with him. So, up until then, you know, he's innocent until proven guilty, which means we should still be looking for the guilty party and just be looking for the various different, you know, strange connections that are that we're seeing. So, um, you know, we'll we'll keep, uh, you know, it's just interesting. Conspiracy theory or conspiracy truth. I don't know. 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