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James Li Uncovers Suspicious Google Search Patterns Before Charlie Kirk Assassination on September 10th

Categories: Analysis
October 21, 2025

James Li from the 5149 Show reveals disturbing evidence that specific search terms related to Charlie Kirk's assassination were trending on Google before the September 10th event. The search patterns, originating from Washington DC and Israel, included the shooter's name Tyler James Robinson, the Losee Center rooftop location, the Mauser 98 weapon, the hospital, and even the medical examiner. Lee analyzed Google Trends data and asked Google AI to interpret the results, which suggested either reconnaissance activity by individuals aware of the assassination planning or an extraordinary coincidence. The searches clustered around two time periods: one to two days before the assassination and late July, coinciding with tensions after a TPUSA event in Tampa, Florida. Google has since made many of these search terms unavailable, raising further questions about what really happened.

Unusual Search Patterns Emerge Before Kirk Assassination

James Li from the 5149 Show joined Redacted to discuss his investigation into suspicious Google search trends that appeared before Charlie Kirk's assassination on September 10th. Building on initial research from the Real Baron podcast, Lee conducted his own analysis using Google Trends and discovered troubling patterns of search activity.

The search terms that were trending before Kirk was assassinated included Tyler James Robinson (the alleged shooter), the Losee Center (the rooftop where the shooter was positioned), the Mauser 98 (the weapon), the hospital where Kirk was taken, doctors who treated him, and the medical examiner. These searches originated from two specific geographic regions: Washington DC and Israel.

Google AI Offers Two Interpretations

Lee took the unusual step of asking Google AI to analyze the search pattern results. The AI provided two possible interpretations. The first and "strongest interpretation" suggested "some kind of non-organic activity likely originating from a small number of users" and indicated the activity was "potentially for reconnaissance or verification." According to Google's analysis, a small group of people or even a single individual potentially involved in or aware of the assassination planning was using Google to conduct online reconnaissance or verification.

The second option Google AI offered was labeled as "highly unlikely" and described as a "remote interpretation extraordinary coincidence." This scenario would mean that somebody in Israel or in close contact was somehow searching for the hospital, the head medical examiner, and various surgeons just by happenstance.

Two Distinct Time Clusters

The searches appeared in two different time clusters. Searches from Washington DC were concentrated very close to the assassination date, occurring on September 9th and September 10th, just one or two days before the event. The searches originating from Israel showed a different pattern, clustering around mid to late July. These Israeli searches focused specifically on the Utah hospital, the medical examiner, and surgeons who work at Timpanogos Regional Hospital.

The timing of the July searches has raised additional questions. Lee pointed out that the infamous group text message between Charlie Kirk and various donors occurred after a TPUSA event in mid-July in Tampa, Florida. In those messages, donors expressed strong dissatisfaction with the platforming of Tucker Carlson and the debate between Dave Smith and Josh Hammer. This timeline suggests a possible connection between the growing tensions and the subsequent assassination planning.

Israel's Quick Denial and Hidden Tensions

After the assassination, Israel was very quick to deny any involvement, stating that Charlie Kirk was their greatest ally and a lover of Israel, so there would be no motive. However, reporting from Candace Owens and others has since confirmed that there was indeed strife going on behind the scenes. This revelation provides what Lee describes as "a very credible motive" that contradicts the official narrative.

Lee was early in questioning the lone gunman theory, noting several suspicious elements including George Zinn in the audience saying "It was me. Shoot me. Shoot me," which he described as "very, very bizarre." He also observed a very quick disinformation campaign that started immediately after the event, which didn't align with a typical lone gunman situation.

Evidence Disappearing and Sites Being Reconstructed

In a development that has raised additional red flags, Lee discovered that the Google Trends data is changing over time. When he attempted to replicate his searches just days later, major search terms like Tyler James Robinson were no longer showing data. Instead of displaying a flat line or zero results, Google now returns a message saying "this search term is not available." The data has been made unavailable entirely, preventing independent verification of Lee's findings.

Lee also drew parallels to historical assassinations, particularly the murders of JFK, RFK, and MLK, where evidence was destroyed or crime scenes were altered. In the MLK case, eyewitnesses reported seeing someone in bushes across the street from the official shooter's location, and the Memphis public works department cut down those bushes the very next day, eliminating potential evidence. No ballistics match was ever established in that case.

Similarly, the UVA location where Kirk was shot is being completely reconstructed. Lee suggested this might be because authorities are afraid someone will find the bullet, which could contradict the official story. No ballistics matching has been released to the public connecting the alleged Mauser 98 rifle to the actual shooting.

The Mauser 98 Weapon Question

The alleged murder weapon itself raises questions. The Mauser 98 is described as a very archaic and rare rifle that is somehow untraceable. Lee showed data indicating there was essentially no search interest in the Mauser 98, then suddenly it spiked up around the time of the assassination. This pattern appeared too coincidental given that nobody was talking about this particular gun before the event.

Ballistics experts who have appeared on Redacted have questioned how a 30-06 round from such a weapon could cause the damage observed without completely destroying Kirk's head, as would typically be expected from such a powerful rifle.

Kash Patel Calls for Shutting Down Investigation Talk

Lee expressed concern about recent comments from Kash Patel, who stated that any discussion online from people on social media would be "very harmful for Charlie's family and we must shut down this conversation." Lee sees this as a red flag, arguing that suggesting further investigation is somehow not good "sounds kind of like a cover up or a psyop."

Lee emphasized that the decentralized nature of independent journalism is making it difficult for authorities to control the narrative as they might have in 1963. With researchers like Baron Coleman breaking the story initially and others like Lee continuing the investigation, multiple avenues of inquiry are being pursued simultaneously. Lee believes those behind the official narrative are "playing catch-up" because they didn't anticipate how quickly citizen journalists would find and share evidence.

Can the Data Be Recovered?

When asked whether the individuals conducting these searches could be forensically identified through IP addresses, Lee explained that Google Trends takes random samples from certain geographic regions and scrambles the data, making it impossible to identify unique IP addresses through publicly available tools. However, Lee suggested that Google almost certainly has a back door for government access, as they likely started with a grant from the CIA and are required to provide government access to their data.

The question remains whether Google could unscramble the data if properly subpoenaed or if a genuine investigation were conducted. Lee believes there is definitely more investigation that can be done, but it would require access to data that Google keeps private.

Call for Continued Investigation

Lee concluded by stating that while this evidence may not be a "smoking gun quite yet," it is certainly enough to warrant further investigation and conversation. He noted the irony that if the Mossad, supposedly one of the greatest spy organizations in the world, were actually involved, they should have done a better job covering their tracks. The fact that online researchers were able to uncover these patterns within days suggests either sophisticated intelligence agencies made critical mistakes, or the perpetrators didn't anticipate that Google Trends data would become a line of investigation.

The mounting inconsistencies, the suspicious search patterns, the unavailability of data, the reconstruction of the crime scene, the lack of ballistics evidence, and the calls to shut down independent investigation all point to a story far more complex than the official lone gunman narrative suggests.

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[00:00] Our next guest says that Google search

[00:02] terms showed an interest in many terms

[00:05] related to Charlie Kirk's assassination

[00:08] before the actual September 10th

[00:10] assassination. James Lee uh from the

[00:13] 5149 show on YouTube is reporting that

[00:16] Google Trends showed the following terms

[00:19] had been trending before Kirk was

[00:22] assassinated in two different places,

[00:24] Washington DC and also in a foreign

[00:28] nation. you may have heard of them

[00:30] called Israel. Here's a list of some of

[00:32] the things that he and others have found

[00:34] were trending prior to September 10th.

[00:37] Tyler James Robinson, the airplane, uh

[00:40] the Losi Center, which is the rooftop

[00:42] where the shooter allegedly was, the

[00:45] weapon, uh the hospital where he was

[00:47] taken, these doctors, the medical

[00:49] examiner. Now, a lot of this came

[00:51] originally from the Real Baron podcast,

[00:54] and then our next guest has furthered

[00:55] this by searching into Google Trends for

[00:57] himself. Uh, so thank you so much James

[00:59] for joining us for the first time on

[01:01] Redacted.

[01:03] >> Hey, thanks for having me on the show

[01:04] guys.

[01:05] >> Pleasure. I think you did a really good

[01:06] job with this. So can you explain to us

[01:09] the idea that these search terms peaked

[01:12] in different regions before the

[01:15] assassination in critical time periods?

[01:19] >> Well, I asked Google this question. I

[01:22] said, "Hey, what does this mean, you

[01:23] know, in terms of these search terms,

[01:25] right?" And I I pulled up I asked

[01:26] Google, okay, can you analyze some of

[01:28] these results? What do they mean? And

[01:30] they say, okay, they gave me two

[01:31] options. One of them being that, hey,

[01:33] you see all these search terms like you

[01:35] just showed your audience, the Tyler

[01:36] Robinson, Losi, Center, Mouser, 98,

[01:38] etc., etc. They said the strongest

[01:41] interpretation of this is some kind of

[01:42] non-organic activity likely originating

[01:45] from a small number of users. And it

[01:47] said that it was potentially for

[01:49] reconnaissance or verification. A small

[01:51] number um a small group of people or a

[01:54] small uh or a single individual

[01:56] potentially someone involved or aware of

[01:57] the planning of the assassination was

[01:59] using Google to conduct online

[02:01] reconnaissance or verification. And then

[02:04] the second option that they gave me very

[02:06] interesting. They said it was a this is

[02:08] highly unlikely. They call this a remote

[02:11] interpretation extraordinary coincidence

[02:13] in that somebody in Israel or relative

[02:16] close contact was somehow searching up

[02:19] the hospital the head medical examiner

[02:22] all these surgeons just by happen

[02:24] stance. So I asked Google that question

[02:26] and that's those are the two options

[02:28] that it gave me. one of them being um

[02:30] you know the more logical answer the

[02:32] other being highly likely they say

[02:34] >> but the dates in July right

[02:38] >> well so yeah there's two different

[02:39] clusters very interesting so what I

[02:41] found um from the DC dates they were

[02:44] very close to the assassination one or

[02:46] two days before so on like se uh

[02:48] September 9th September 10th that's when

[02:51] they were clustered now the searches for

[02:54] the Utah hospital medical examiner as

[02:57] well as some of the surgeons

[02:59] that work at the hospital there, the

[03:01] Tempanogos Regional Hospital. Those are

[03:04] centered around dates that are closer to

[03:06] the end of July, mid to late July. And

[03:09] one one thing very interesting about

[03:10] that that people were talking online and

[03:13] this is veering into sort of the

[03:14] conspiracy space is that if you remember

[03:17] the infamous or now infamous group text

[03:20] message from Charlie Kirk and a number

[03:21] of different donors they were discussing

[03:23] after the TPUSA event in mid July that I

[03:27] think it was in Tampa Florida. They were

[03:28] very unhappy with the platforming of

[03:30] Tucker Carlson as well as

[03:33] uh the debate between Dave Smith and

[03:36] Josh Hammer. So that's when it first was

[03:38] rumbling and now that points to some

[03:39] kind of was were those things related,

[03:41] right? Because we saw after the

[03:43] assassination, Israel was very very

[03:45] quick to say, "Nope, this wasn't us." Of

[03:47] course, why would we do something like

[03:48] this? Charlie's our greatest ally and

[03:51] then he was a lover of Israel. Why would

[03:52] he do this? And then now we know for a

[03:54] fact that's been confirmed by Candace

[03:56] Owens as well as other people's

[03:57] reporting that no, there were indeed

[03:59] some some strife going on behind the

[04:01] scenes. So then now that leads to, you

[04:03] know, I think a very credible motive.

[04:05] And with these Google searches now,

[04:06] we're starting to see, okay, is there a

[04:08] potentially

[04:10] maybe not a smoking gun quite yet, but

[04:12] at least something that we need to

[04:13] investigate further, right? Because a

[04:15] lot of things or a lot of responses that

[04:17] I got from people cuz I was very early,

[04:19] you know, on I was like, "Hey, this

[04:20] doesn't look right. This doesn't look

[04:21] like a lone gunman situation. It looks

[04:24] sort of like a conspiracy." You know,

[04:25] you had that guy George Zinn in the

[04:27] audience saying, "It was me. Shoot me.

[04:29] Shoot me." Very, very bizarre. and you

[04:31] had a very quick disinformation campaign

[04:33] that started right after the event. So

[04:36] that does not look like just a a lone

[04:39] gunman type of situation.

[04:41] And you know, a lot of people were like,

[04:43] "How could you say we have you have no

[04:44] no evidence?" Well, now we're starting

[04:46] to see some evidence creep in. And one

[04:49] thing, you know, this is kind of a a

[04:51] cheeky joke, but you know, the MSAD, if

[04:53] they were involved in this kind of

[04:54] thing, the MSAD is supposedly the one of

[04:56] the greatest spy organizations in the

[04:57] world. So, you got to give them a little

[04:58] bit of credit in that, you know, they

[05:01] would hopefully do a good job and not

[05:02] leave too many trails behind. If we

[05:05] online were able to salute this out

[05:06] within a couple of days, I I would feel

[05:08] like they weren't doing a good job. So,

[05:10] I think that's kind of where I'm at with

[05:12] this. Like, this is certainly enough

[05:14] that it should warrant investigation,

[05:16] more investigation, more conversation.

[05:18] And then, you know, you just saw Cash

[05:19] Patel, I think it was yesterday, go on

[05:22] and say, "Well, any kind of discussion

[05:24] online from people on social media that

[05:27] is going to be very harmful for

[05:29] Charlie's family and we must shut down

[05:31] this conversation." And I think that's

[05:33] that's kind of a a red flag for me is

[05:36] that um you know, saying that

[05:38] investigating further is somehow not

[05:41] good. That sounds kind of like a cover

[05:43] up or a scop. That's kind of how I

[05:45] >> Someone in our chat room just said,

[05:46] "Yeah, when when people are trying to

[05:48] tell you to look the other way or just

[05:50] to play it off as like a coincidence,

[05:52] then then you know, you should run away

[05:54] from those people." And I think there's

[05:56] two camps been emerging from this

[05:57] immediately. The the yay, we are buy

[05:59] we're going to buy everything the Fed is

[06:01] telling us, the FBI is telling us this

[06:03] was the guy, nothing to see here. And

[06:05] then there's a lot of us who are saying,

[06:07] "Wait a second, there's too many

[06:08] inconsistencies here. Why would there be

[06:10] these clusters in DC and Israel

[06:13] searching for things like the Losi

[06:15] Center? I mean, who who cares in Israel

[06:17] about the Losi Center? I'd never even

[06:19] heard of it until everything that

[06:21] unfolded. I mean, why would people

[06:23] specifically being searching out for

[06:24] these the the the Mouser 98, the alleged

[06:27] weapon ahead of time? I mean, I know

[06:30] this is jumping in a very archaic rare,

[06:34] >> you know, rifle that's untraceable

[06:36] somehow. And it and it was very

[06:37] interesting if you guys have that foot

[06:39] uh the the screenshot, but there was no

[06:41] interest in it. All of a sudden it

[06:42] spikes up. Um and I just thought, man,

[06:46] that's that's got to be more than just a

[06:48] coincidence because nobody's really

[06:50] talking about this gun, right? It has no

[06:52] interest in Miles 98. Boom. All of a

[06:53] sudden, it spikes up, which is

[06:55] >> this is the one we're showing for for

[06:57] Tyler James Robinson. But again, it's

[06:59] it's the similar patterns.

[07:01] >> Can I ask you though? So when we look at

[07:03] this forensically, like it's one thing

[07:05] to speculate and say, you know, why were

[07:07] these people doing this? It's like, you

[07:09] know, newspapers printing or reporters

[07:11] reporting that building 7 had collapsed

[07:13] before it had collapsed. Like it's all

[07:15] very interesting, right? Like how why

[07:17] why would you mention building 7 had

[07:18] collapsed and it hadn't collapsed yet?

[07:20] Oh, okay. um can we forensically

[07:24] identify who these individuals are

[07:25] through IP addresses or otherwise who

[07:28] are actually doing these searches or

[07:29] does our sort of journey just end with

[07:31] this?

[07:32] >> Well, based on so I didn't research

[07:34] after this looking into okay how does

[07:36] the Google trend thing work and

[07:38] apparently what it does is it takes

[07:40] random samples from certain geographic

[07:43] regions that you're filtering for. So it

[07:45] based on what they're publicly saying it

[07:47] it scramles the data. So there's no way

[07:49] to identify a unique IP address or

[07:53] multiple IP addresses that are doing

[07:54] this search. I don't know Google behind

[07:57] >> could Google unscramble it. I mean after

[07:59] all Google started as a with a grant

[08:00] from from the CIA, right?

[08:02] >> That's what I so that's what I'm

[08:04] implying there. I don't know if they

[08:05] have a back door. They probably likely

[08:07] do have a back door for the government.

[08:08] I think they're more or less required to

[08:10] do so. So I think there's definitely

[08:12] more investigation that can be done. And

[08:14] what's something that's interesting too

[08:15] cuz um you mentioned um Baron Coleman.

[08:17] He was one of the first to to report

[08:19] this. So kudos to the decentralized uh

[08:22] independent journalism world. That's the

[08:24] kind of stuff that you know we we are

[08:27] that that's such a such a good sign for

[08:28] the world's journalism to have people

[08:30] come on and bring this theory to uh to

[08:32] to the public, have other people

[08:33] scrutinize it. And one thing that I was

[08:35] doing over the course of maybe two or

[08:37] three days, I noticed that these

[08:38] searches were changing over time. And

[08:40] then the main searches, like some of

[08:42] them are still there, some of them you

[08:43] could still find right now, but the big

[08:45] big names, like if you search Tyler Jane

[08:47] Robinson, do that exact same filtering.

[08:49] I just did this yesterday again. And now

[08:52] it it's not even a flat line. They just

[08:54] say this search term is not available.

[08:56] It's not there anymore.

[08:58] >> Right? That's the other big piece of the

[08:59] story. Now they're just wiping it. So

[09:01] all of the research that you did, like,

[09:02] good thing you got screenshots because

[09:05] now you can't do it anymore. They're not

[09:06] letting you do this research, Google,

[09:08] >> right? It's really bizarre. It's it's

[09:10] not saying it's it's not like zeroing it

[09:12] out. It's just saying this search term

[09:13] is unavailable.

[09:15] >> Unavailable.

[09:16] Okay. I mean,

[09:19] so I mean, clearly we all searched it

[09:23] collectively on September well, I guess

[09:26] 11th or 12th when he was allegedly

[09:29] turned himself in. So now we can't even

[09:31] see that because they can't manipulate

[09:33] that data. That's outrageous. I mean,

[09:36] and I guess, you know, you would think

[09:38] that like these bad actors who may have

[09:41] been involved, the the way you put it uh

[09:44] in your video is that it's possible that

[09:46] this story was written months before it

[09:49] happened and so the authors of the

[09:51] story, the architects

[09:53] were not even using some kind of VPN or

[09:57] spyware. I mean, I don't I

[10:00] >> Well, I mean,

[10:01] >> you would think they'd be a little bit

[10:02] smarter than that.

[10:04] >> I would I would think that. I don't know

[10:05] if it's just some some kind of trace

[10:07] where maybe they were doing um maybe

[10:10] they were using VPNs, but I don't know

[10:12] if anybody would have thought that this

[10:13] this would have been a potential lead

[10:15] after the fact, right? They maybe

[10:17] thought I think

[10:18] >> right now a lot of what I'm seeing is

[10:21] they're kind of playing catch-up in how

[10:23] decentralized journalism works where

[10:25] everybody's soothing out things, finding

[10:27] different avenues to to investigate and

[10:30] because it used to be I mean if you look

[10:31] back in time this was just it would have

[10:33] been case closed. it would have been,

[10:35] "Okay, Tyler Robinson is your guy. We

[10:36] have the murder weapon and now we have

[10:39] him apprehended. So, let's move on to

[10:41] another story." Uh, I don't think it's

[10:44] 1963

[10:46] anymore. It's 2025. So, um, I think

[10:50] they're playing a little bit of catch-up

[10:51] here,

[10:52] >> right?

[10:52] >> Yeah. People like you.

[10:55] >> There's so many similarities here. If

[10:56] you look at the things that happened,

[10:58] right? A lot of people are familiar with

[11:00] the JFK assassination, but I did a video

[11:02] digging into some of the other

[11:04] high-profile assassinations in history,

[11:06] including RFK, as well as uh the MLK

[11:10] assassination. And there's just so many

[11:12] parallels to this story of say evidence

[11:16] getting destroyed. Right? Right now, you

[11:18] see UVA being basically completely

[11:21] reconstructed. That whole site is now

[11:22] totally different. I don't know why.

[11:24] Some people are saying maybe because

[11:25] they're afraid that somebody's going to

[11:27] find the bullet. They still haven't

[11:28] released any kind of ballistics matching

[11:30] or anything like that. And in 1968,

[11:34] was it for from MLK? There was

[11:36] eyewitness saying that, hey, they saw

[11:38] some some person in the bushes across

[11:40] the street uh that was in a different

[11:42] location than than the actual shooter,

[11:45] James Earl Ray, who they call, you know,

[11:47] the FBI head at the time, uh, J Hoover,

[11:50] said that he was a very hateful person.

[11:53] That's why he did this and, you know, we

[11:55] got him. And then, uh, the next day the

[11:58] Memphis public works went and cut down

[11:59] that bush. So that's a very very similar

[12:03] parallel to this situation where you're

[12:04] seeing crime scenes being basically

[12:06] reconstructed. And also in that

[12:08] particular case, there was no ballistics

[12:11] match that ever occurred. They weren't

[12:13] able to match the bullet to the gun. And

[12:15] in this situation, I don't think they've

[12:16] been able to do that. And I think you've

[12:18] had some ballistics experts on on your

[12:20] show to talk about how, you know, it's

[12:22] basically impossible for uh a 30 six to

[12:27] cause such little dam. I mean, it was a

[12:29] very traumatic and catastrophic hit, of

[12:31] course, but you know, a lot of people

[12:33] are saying his head should have been

[12:34] blown off. So, how do you explain that?

[12:36] >> Yeah. Don't ask questions, though,

[12:38] James.

[12:38] >> They've they've given us the official

[12:40] story, so no more questions to be asked.

[12:42] Your work is done here.

[12:43] >> Right,

[12:44] >> James? Great to see you. Great work on

[12:46] this. Encourage people to check out,

[12:47] we'll link it up and make sure people

[12:48] can check out all of your work on this.

[12:50] Thank you so much for for joining us. We

[12:52] really appreciate it. Love to have you

[12:53] back on the show.

[12:54] >> Hey, Glenn, Natalie, thank you so much

[12:56] for having me on. Appreciate you guys.

[12:57] >> You bet. Thank you, James. Great to have

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