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Michael Knowles on Charlie Kirk's Murder and the Elite Celebration of Political Violence
Michael Knowles confronts the jarring reality of Charlie Kirk's assassination and the elite response that followed. George Abaraonye, president of the Oxford Union, publicly celebrated Kirk's death and had previously advocated for violent retaliation against institutions he deemed too broken to reform. Knowles argues that this isn't merely about disagreement but represents a fundamental threat to civil society. When half the country openly celebrates the murder of someone for expressing moderate, mainstream conservative views, the social trust necessary for a functioning nation disintegrates. The response from major corporations, Microsoft, Delta Airlines, NASDAQ, and others, firing employees who celebrated the violence offers a glimmer of hope. Knowles makes the case that preserving liberty requires reasserting order, not through oppression, but by ostracizing those who undermine the very foundations of civil discourse.
The Oxford Union President Celebrates Violence
Charlie Kirk had been invited to speak at the Oxford Union not long before his death. The Oxford Union, similar to debate societies like the Yale Political Union, is supposed to be a forum for civilized debate following formal rules of order. Kirk performed admirably during his appearance there. But the response from Oxford Union president George Abaraonye following Kirk's assassination revealed something deeply disturbing about the state of elite institutions.
Abarani posted in all caps: "Charlie Kirk got shot. Let's effing go. Prayers up." These weren't prayers for Kirk's protection or recovery, but prayers of thanksgiving that he had been shot. To remove any ambiguity about his views on political violence, there exists footage of Abarani at the Oxford Union articulating his position in extreme detail.
"To effectively create change in the world we desire, side prop will argue that at times there is simply nothing else that can be required other than violent retaliation, and this is a view I wholeheartedly agree with," Abarani stated. "The view that some institutions are too broken, too aggressive, too oppressive to be reformed—like cancers of our society, they must and they should be taken down by any means necessary."
This isn't ambiguous language. The president of the Oxford Union wholeheartedly supports political violence against people on the right. What makes this particularly jarring is that this man is technically part of the elite—despite showing up to the Oxford Union wearing a do-rag and debating in what resembled a sweatsuit. He was admitted to Oxford, he became president of the Oxford Union, and he is tolerated in polite society while defending calls for violence against ordinary conservatives and celebrating when the most mainstream right-wing debater in the world was murdered.
The Personal Nature of the Threat
What strikes many people particularly hard is that Abarani knew Charlie Kirk personally. He had shown up to debate Kirk, possibly at the Cambridge Union. He met the man, knew who he was, and still celebrated his murder.
For those who knew Charlie as a friend, this has been tremendously difficult. But the reaction goes deeper than personal grief. The real trauma comes from a stark realization: people we know—family members, friends, people we grew up with, people we work with—do not merely disagree with the way we vote. They don't just say nasty things or use hyperbolic terms like "Nazis" and "Hitler." They want us dead. They're saying they want us dead. The message is not ambiguous. They would be happy if we were murdered. They would actually celebrate it.
Many of them may not even realize what they've done. Some might realize it and not care, but others seem genuinely oblivious to the implications of their rhetoric. Years ago, when Ann Coulter came to campus, friends would go off about how much they hated her, calling her evil and terrible names. The response to pointing out that there wasn't much difference between Coulter's views and those of an ordinary conservative was dismissive laughter—they simply wouldn't confront that fact.
With Charlie Kirk, who was much more moderate and measured than Coulter or really anybody else on the right, the left has no answer. Your friends, family, and coworkers cannot say "we're happy this guy got murdered, but we wouldn't want you to be murdered" when the only difference between Charlie Kirk and half the country is that he had the guts to say his moderate, normal, common sense views out loud.
The Implicit Threat
They murdered him for stating his beliefs publicly. Implicit in the broad public elite attempt to justify, explain away, shrug off, and even celebrate his murder is a threat: shut your mouth or you're next, and we'll cheer it on. We'll dance on your grave.
This represents about 60% of the national trauma around Charlie Kirk's death—the undeniable realization that the New York Times, CNN, The Nation, Reuters, the head of the Oxford Union, and countless others are really saying "we want you dead." What he said does justify his death, they suggest. He was divisive. He was controversial. You better not be.
Order as the Prerequisite for Liberty
What should be done in the face of all this? The answer is common sense and generally popular, though some disagree: it is not possible to have an open marketplace of ideas when people shoot up the marketplace.
This is not a particularly radical opinion. It has been the standard understanding of politics for a very long time, though it seems lost on some people now—perhaps because they're too ideological in their thinking or have been caught up in empty slogans.
Healthy and robust debate is a good thing. America has a wonderful tradition of it. The phrase "marketplace of ideas" is an apt analogy because marketplaces are great—they enable wonderful exchange and can lead to flourishing and mutual enrichment. But marketplaces have to have rules. You need common media of exchange, trust, security, and regulations that govern commerce. When people undermine all of that, you cannot have a marketplace.
To use a phrase from G.K. Chesterton, you cannot have "the thought that stops thought." America has a wonderfully open and healthy society, at least in principle, but that society is circumscribed by things like the Constitution, the ideas articulated in the Declaration of Independence, and morality and religion—as the Framers told us explicitly and repeatedly, the Constitution does not work to govern an immoral and irreligious people.
Yes, we have a relatively open society, but it can only remain open within certain constraints. If you undermine those constraints, your society commits suicide. That's what we're seeing in the marketplace of ideas. If you enter that marketplace and say "we're going to shoot all of you if you disagree with me," you have not expanded or contributed to the marketplace of ideas—you have fundamentally undermined it.
Even if you are a defender of the free marketplace of ideas, it is fundamentally incoherent to say that we should tolerate this kind of behavior. As a purely practical political matter, we cannot continue as a country if half the country openly wants to murder the other half and openly celebrates that murder merely for expressing opinions—especially very moderate and centrist opinions. You will not have the social trust requisite to have a country. This is an urgent, existential problem. Something must be done.
The Practical Impossibility of Normal Life
You cannot go into a restaurant if you believe the kitchen staff wants to murder you for holding normal ideas. You can't have restaurants under those conditions. If you believe your coworker is salivating at the prospect of murdering everyone to the right of Hillary Clinton and celebrating, threatening, and calling for that violence, you can't have workplaces. You can't have a country, much less a free marketplace of ideas.
What must be done first is not, as some are calling for, merely to redouble our devotion to the free marketplace of ideas. Maybe you can get to that eventually. But what must be done now is to reassert order.
Order is not contrary to liberty, freedom, or the exchange of ideas. It is the prerequisite for those things. Liberty requires order. You cannot simultaneously be free and ignorant. You cannot simultaneously be free and undisciplined. This is why we do not let toddlers vote. Every semi-reasonable person recognizes this. We behave as though it is true all day long.
Consequences for Undermining Society
There need to be consequences for undermining the whole system. People who go out and say that ordinary normal conservatives should be murdered wholesale and the streets should soak in their blood need to be ostracized from society. They should be corrected first in charity and graciousness, but if they refuse to behave as they ought in the most basic ways that civilized people must behave—if they persist in particularly antisocial behaviors and particularly suicidal ideologies—they need to be ostracized.
More practically: they need to lose their social standing. They should not be welcome in polite society. In some cases, they should lose their jobs.
There are already some hopeful signs. Companies are firing people for celebrating Kirk's murder, and they need to continue doing it. With any political reform, one should err on the side of caution and restraint, but a good place to start would be with people who are openly celebrating the murder of an innocent man whose only offense was expressing his opinion.
This is beginning to happen. Microsoft has said comments celebrating violence against anyone are unacceptable and do not align with their values. Office Depot said much the same. NASDAQ and Perkins Coie, a prominent law firm, stated "this is not who we are" and separated from individuals who celebrated the murder. The Carolina Panthers and Delta Airlines have suspended employees over these kinds of social media posts. A teacher in Canada who showed the assassination video in 4K to a classroom of 10 and 11-year-olds and then justified and celebrated it needs to lose their job. These people need to face severe consequences.
Understanding the Purpose of Free Exchange
Don't be confused by liberal ideologues or squishes on this point. Ask yourself: what is the purpose of the open marketplace of ideas? People who promoted this very idea going back to the Enlightenment, the early days of liberalism, and writers like John Milton and John Locke tell you the answer: to arrive at the truth.
The argument for the open marketplace of ideas is not just to amuse ourselves, threaten everybody, or post funny memes. It's to arrive at the truth. The argument—whatever its merits—is that by having more voices in the public square, eventually good ideas will win out over bad ideas, and we'll arrive at the truth. The means by which this occurs in the open marketplace of ideas is through debate.
If you tolerate or even celebrate murder for debate, you have fundamentally undermined the entire open marketplace of ideas. This is what Chesterton means by "the thought that stops thought." This is what the squishes and very shallow people, even on the putative right, don't seem to understand. The whole idea of the open marketplace of ideas is that we arrive at the truth through debate. If you tolerate celebrating murder for debate, you've undermined the whole thing. You haven't expanded anything—you've committed ideological suicide.
Law Enforcement and Organized Terror
Law enforcement must play a role. President Trump, through Stephen Miller, wisely stated that the government will go after left-wing terror organizations. Antifa is an organized terror organization. They have anarchist bookshops. They make bombs. They practice shooting at conservatives. They attack regularly, and in Charlie's case, they succeeded.
They need to be vigorously prosecuted, vigorously suppressed, and run out of society—not to undermine our liberty, as some ridiculous people are suggesting, but to preserve it. The only way to possibly preserve liberty, the only way to preserve a healthy exchange of ideas, the only way to preserve a flourishing society is by suppressing the elements that undermine it. Antisocial, suicidal elements must be confronted and removed to maintain the order necessary for freedom to exist.
Video Transcript
the president of the Oxford Union,
Charlie, was invited to speak at the
Oxford Union. I got an invite to speak
at the Oxford Union not not that long
ago. And it's a similar. It's a debate
society. We have some here. There's the
Yale political union. It's a formal
debate society where you're supposed to
have civilized people following Robert's
rules of order debating topics. Charlie
did a great great job at the Oxford
Union. Here is what the president of the
Oxford Union had to say. George Abarani
or something. He he says all caps.
Charlie Kirk got shot. Let's effing go.
Prayers up. Prayers up for his being
shot. Not to help him and and protect
him as he was shot, but celebrating the
fact. Thank you God that he was shot.
Lest there be any confusion. Here is
George Abberani
uh describing his views of political
violence in extreme detail. at the
Oxford Union
>> to effectively create change in the
world we desire and side prop will argue
that at times there is simply nothing
else that can be required other than
violent retaliation and this is a view I
wholeheartedly agree with this view the
view that some institutions are too
broken too aggressive too oppressive to
be reformed like cancers of our society
they must and they should be taken down
by any means necessary
>> is that ambiguous too New York Times you
going to write a That's just I just his
message is so unclear. The president of
the Oxford Union, he he when he said
that he wholeheartedly supports
political violence against people on the
right, I just don't know what he could
possibly mean.
This is jarring for a lot of people
because
of two things. One, that guy is
technically elite. I know it's absurd
that he walks into the Oxford Union
wearing a do-rag. It's absurd that he
was admitted to Oxford. It's absurd that
he is tolerated in polite society. But
he is
he's in there wearing something vaguely
resembling a tuxedo. He's the president
of the Oxford Union. And he's he's
defending calls for for violence against
ordinary right-wingers.
And then he's celebrating when Charlie
Kirk, the most mainstream right-wing
talker and debater in the world, was
murdered.
and he is in the elite institutions.
That's the first reason. The second
thing that is really jarring for a lot
of people is this guy knew Charlie Kirk
because this guy showed up to debate
Charlie
wearing a sweatuit or something. Again,
just tell tells you a lot about our
institutions. But he showed up. Now,
this was I don't think at the Oxford,
maybe this was at the Cambridge Union. I
can't I can't quite tell. But he met the
guy. He knew the guy.
And this is what's really striking a lot
of people.
Charlie,
look, obviously a lot of us knew Charlie
and a lot of us were friends with
Charlie. Charlie had a lot of friends,
but but some of us have known him for
many, many years. And so you think, all
right, man, this has been really tough
on people because
I don't know, he's a friend of ours. No,
that's not why.
That's part of it for some for some of
us, but that's not why. It's it's I
think mostly the reaction.
The fact that people we know,
family members, friends, people we grew
up with, people we work with
do not merely uh hate the way we vote,
do not merely say nasty things about us,
do not merely even call us hyperbolic
terms like Nazis and Hitler or whatever,
though those things are related. I guess
they want us dead.
They're saying they want us dead. I'm
not reading the tea leaves. The message
is not ambiguous.
They want us dead. They would be happy
if we were murdered. They would
celebrate that actually.
And I don't even think that they realize
what they've done.
Maybe some of them do and they don't
care, but others I don't think they do.
I I remember years and years ago, Anne
Coulter came to campus. I was in college
and my friends were going off, some of
my friends were going off about how much
they hated Anne Coulter and how she was
evil and calling her all sorts of
terrible names and I said, you know,
there's really not much difference
between me and Anne Coulter. They said,
"No, no, Michael, that's not it's
totally rid." I said, "No, we kind of
basically believe the same things. The
only difference is she she's famous and
I'm not famous." And they kind of
laughed it off or whatever. they just
wouldn't confront that fact. And that
that's really especially when you're
talking about Charlie Kirk who who was
much more moderate than Anne, who was
much more measured and centrist than
Anne or than really anybody on the right
because because then the only answer
that the left can have, your friends,
your family, and your co-workers, is no,
no, no. We're happy that this guy got
murdered, but we we wouldn't want you to
be murdered. We wouldn't be happy if you
were murdered. I mean, yeah, we're happy
he got murdered because of his beliefs.
But no, there's a big difference between
you and him.
He says his beliefs out loud.
That's the only difference. The only
difference between Charlie Kirk and half
this country is he had the guts to say
it out loud, to state his moderate,
normal, common sense views out loud. And
they murdered him for that. and implicit
in the broad public elite attempt to
justify and explain away and shrug off
and even celebrate his murder. Implicit
in all of that is a threat. You shut
your mouth or you're next and we'll
cheer it on. We'll dance on your grave.
That's what's implicit. And that is 60%
of the national trauma around Charlie
Kirk's death. the realization, the
undeniable, I'm sorry to say,
realization. I try to give every grace I
possibly can to the other side. I try to
see things from the other side's point
of view. I do my I don't want to straw
man anyone. I I you know Charlie Charlie
was very gracious to the other side. And
yet it it's it's just undeniable. It's
just the New York Times and it's CNN and
it's The Nation and it's the Reuters and
it's it's the head of the Oxford Union
and it's all of this
saying, "No, we really do want you
dead." No, we really do. What he said
does justify his death. Well, he was
divisive. He was controversial. You
better not be.
So, what do we do in the face of all of
that? I have an idea which is
quite common sense and I think generally
popular. Some don't agree with it. Uh
but I think it's the only thing we can
do and it's and it is what's happening
right now. It is not possible
to have an open marketplace of ideas
when people shoot up the marketplace. I
made this point on the show on Thursday
or Friday. I posted a column to X about
this that that went pretty viral. uh
this is uh not a particularly radical
opinion. This is a pretty moderate
opinion that has been the standard
understanding of politics uh for for a
very very long time. But it's lost on
some people now. I don't know why it
maybe people are too ideological in
their thinking. Maybe they've just been
sloganering to I don't know. But we like
healthy and robust debate. That's a
really good thing. America has a great
wonderful tradition of that. And and we
sometimes use this phrase, the
marketplace of ideas to describe it. And
I think that's actually an apt analogy.
It's an apt picture because marketplaces
are great and there's wonderful exchange
and it can lead to flourishing and
mutual enrichment. But marketplaces have
to have rules. There have to be some
rules. You need to have common media of
exchange. You have to have trust in the
marketplace. You need to have some
security in the marketplace. You need to
have rules that regulate the commerce in
the marketplace.
When people undermine all of that, you
cannot have a marketplace,
you you cannot have, to use a phrase
from GK Chesterton, the thought that
stops thought.
We we have we have a wonderfully open
and healthy society in America, at least
in principle. But it is that circum
society is circumscribed by things like
the constitution by the ideas
articulated in the declaration of
independence by morality and religion as
the framers told us explicitly and
repeatedly that the constitution does
not work to govern an immoral and an
irreligious people and and many other
such statements. So yes, we have an open
a relatively open society, but it can
only remain relatively open within
certain constraints. If you undermine
those constraints, your society commits
suicide. That's what we're seeing here
in the in the marketplace of ideas. If
you enter into the marketplace of ideas
and say, "We're going to shoot all of
you if you disagree with me." You you
have not expanded the marketplace of
ideas. You have not contributed to the
marketplace of ideas. You have
fundamentally undermined it. So it's an
in even if you are a defender of the
free marketplace of ideas, it is a
fundamentally incoherent view to say
that we should tolerate this kind of
stuff. And just as a purely practical
political matter, we cannot continue as
a country if half the country openly
wants to murder the other half and
openly celebrates the murder of the
other half merely for expressing
opinions, especially for expressing very
moderate and centrist opinions. It is
not possible to go on that way. You will
not have the social trust that is
requisite to have a country. This is a
an urgent urgent problem. It's actually
an existential problem. Something has to
be done about this. I cannot go into a
restaurant if I believe that the kitchen
staff with the crazy colored hair and
the and the we're wearing all the weird
stuff and the crazy flags and
everything. If I believe that that
person in the kitchen is going to poison
my food because that person in the
kitchen wants to murder me because half
the country wants to murder me for
holding normal ideas.
We we can't have restaurants.
If I believe that uh I I go into a a
workplace and my coworker
is salivating at the prospect of
murdering everyone to the right of
Hillary Clinton and celebrating that and
calling for that and threatening that
then we can't have workplaces. We can't
have a country
under those conditions
much less a free marketplace of ideas.
So
the what what must be done first is not
as some people are calling merely to
redouble our devotion to the free
marketplace of ideas. Maybe you can get
to that eventually if you really want
to. But what must be done now is to
reassert order. Order is not contrary to
liberty. It's not contrary to freedom.
It's not contrary to the exchange of
ideas. It is the prerequisite for those
things. Liberty requires order. You
cannot simultaneously be free and
ignorant. You cannot simultaneously be
free and undisiplined.
This is why we do not let toddlers vote.
We all recognize this. Not only the
founders and the framers, but every even
semi-reasonable person. We behave as
though that is true all day long.
We must have order. And I'll put that
into really practical terms.
There need to be consequences for
undermining the whole system.
People who go out and say that ordinary
normal
conservatives should be murdered
wholesale and the streets should soak in
their blood. Those people need to be
ostracized from society. They should be
corrected first in charity and
graciousness if they refuse to behave as
they ought in a in the most basic ways
that civilized people have to behave. If
they persist in particularly antisocial
behaviors if they persist in
particularly suicidal ideologies they
need to be ostracized. And I'll I'll
make it even more practical. They need
to lose their social standing. They
should not be welcome into polite
society. and in some cases they should
lose their jobs. We didn't even get to
all of the consequences that we're
already beginning to see, but there are
some hopeful signs. There are companies
who are firing people for this and they
need to they need to do it. And with any
political reform, I think one should
always air on the side of caution, air
on the side of restraint. But I think a
good place to start would be with people
who are openly celebrating the murder of
an innocent man whose only offense was
expressing his opinion. And that is
happening now. That is beginning to
happen. Microsoft has said comments
celebrating violence against anyone are
unacceptable and do not align with our
values. Office Depot said much the same
thing. NASDAQ Perkins Koi, a left-wing
law firm, very prominent left-wing law
firm said that this is not who we are.
We've separated from from the individual
who was celebrating the murder. the
Carolina Panthers, Delta Airlines has
suspended employees over these kinds of
social media posts. This is really
really important and
I I I don't want people to be confused
by this and I don't want them to be led
astray by by liberal ideologues to to by
the squishes by
ask yourself what is the purpose of the
open marketplace of ideas?
You you don't need to wonder that long.
people who who promoted this very idea
going back to the enlightenment, going
back to uh the early days of liberalism,
going back to writers like John Milton
and John Lock, they tell you
the purpose of the open marketplace of
ideas is to arrive at the truth. The
argument for the open marketplace of
ideas is not just to amuse ourselves.
It's not just to threaten everybody.
It's not just to post funny memes. It's
to arrive at the truth. The argument,
and I'm not weighing in at all on
whether this argument is convincing, I'm
just saying the argument is that by
having more and more voices in the
public square, eventually the good ideas
are going to win out over the bad ideas.
And and so then we're going to arrive at
the truth.
The means by which this occurs in the
open marketplace of ideas is through
debate.
If you tolerate or even celebrate
murder for debate, then you have
fundamentally undermined the entire open
marketplace of ideas. Do you understand
that? This is what Chesterton means by
the thought that stops thought. This is
what the squishes and the very shallow
people even on the puditive right just
don't seem to understand.
The whole idea of the open marketplace
of ideas is that we arrive at the truth
through debate. If you tolerate
celebrating murder for debate, you've
undermined the whole thing. You haven't
expanded the you you've you've committed
ideological suicide.
We can't have that.
We need these these companies are doing
a very good job by firing these people.
in certain cases in teachers for in
there was a teacher in Canada who showed
the assassination video in 4K to a
classroom of 10 and 11 year olds and
then justified it and then celebrated
it. These people need to lose their
jobs. They need to face severe
consequences.
Law enforcement President Trump through
Steven Miller very aly saying that that
uh the government will go after
left-wing terror organizations. Antifa
is an organized terror organization.
They have anarchist bookshops. They make
bombs. They practice shooting us. They
attack us regularly. And in the case of
Charlie, they succeeded. They need to be
vigorously prosecuted. They need to be
vigorously suppressed and run out of
society. Not to undermine our liberty,
as some ridiculous people are
suggesting, but in order to preserve our
liberty. The only way that you can
possibly preserve liberty. The only way
that you can possibly preserve a healthy
exchange of ideas. The only way that you
can possibly preserve a flourishing
society is by suppressing the elements
that undermine it.
Antisocial,
suicidal,