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Brandon Tatum Confronts Wild Conspiracy Theories After Charlie Kirk Assassination and Defends Security Team
Brandon Tatum addresses the conspiracy theories circulating after Charlie Kirk's assassination at Utah Valley University, specifically debunking claims about tunnels, security failures, and cover-ups. Tatum, who considered Kirk a close friend, defends the security team, explains proper investigation protocols, and urges people to trust the federal investigation under Trump and Kash Patel. He emphasizes that Kirk is one of the biggest martyrs in history, with billions watching his death, and warns that spreading baseless conspiracies compromises the investigation and disrespects those who loved Charlie.
The Absurdity of Tunnel Conspiracy Theories
Brandon Tatum opens by addressing one of the most ridiculous conspiracy theories circulating: that someone emerged from a tunnel like the Ninja Turtles, shot Charlie Kirk in the neck, and disappeared without anyone noticing. He expresses frustration that people he previously trusted, including tactical professionals and military veterans, are pushing these theories for clicks and money rather than waiting for actual evidence.
"I guess people are saying that somebody popped out a tunnel like the Ninja Turtles and shot Charlie in the neck without nobody knowing and the bullet went like up and then went down and around and then went out to the parking lot, came back in with some velocity and hit Charlie in the neck," Tatum explains incredulously. He points out that what people are seeing is likely irrigation systems, lighting infrastructure, or sewage drainage—not secret assassination tunnels.
Tatum emphasizes the illogical nature of these claims: Charlie Kirk walked directly over the supposed tunnel location, his seven-person security team was standing right there, and multiple cameras were recording. The idea that someone could pop out, aim and fire a rifle with a suppressor, and disappear undetected is simply impossible.
Defending Charlie Kirk's Security Team
Tatum passionately defends Charlie Kirk's security team, who he describes as elite professionals who loved Charlie like a brother. He explains that these individuals have been with Charlie for many years and would have prevented him from even leaving the vehicle if they suspected any danger.
"We have an elite force of people who are supporting Charlie at all times. And had they even known or suspected that there would be even an element of danger that day in Utah, they wouldn't have even let him out of the car, off the plane, you know, into public life," he states.
The security arrangements involved coordination between Charlie's personal protection team and Utah Valley University police. The university police department was responsible for protecting the campus perimeter, rooftops, and surrounding areas, while Charlie's team handled personal protection. Tatum notes that when working with partner agencies, you're depending on them to fulfill their responsibilities.
He expresses deep concern for the security team members who are being unfairly targeted online with wild accusations. These are people who were the first to try to save Charlie's life and who would take a bullet or jump in front of a car for him. Tatum calls for prayers for the security team rather than baseless attacks.
The Camera Footage Controversy
Another conspiracy theory gaining traction involves the video team member who removed SD cards from cameras immediately after the shooting. Turning Point USA addressed this directly, explaining that this individual has been with them from the beginning and loved Charlie like a brother.
When asked why he grabbed the SD cards, the team member explained: "Because I know people can be evil." He wanted to protect the footage from being stolen by opportunistic individuals. Tatum notes that people were actually stealing hats off tables in the chaos following the shooting, so securing the camera equipment and footage was the smart decision.
"He made the smart decision to say let me secure the camera footage so nobody steal it," Tatum explains. "Because people will steal the camera and then they'll put it on the dark web where they got Charlie getting his neck blown out and they putting it all out. They selling it to people."
The footage was immediately turned over to the FBI. Tatum defends this team member, who he personally knows and has worked with at numerous events, noting that the man just witnessed his friend being killed and is now being attacked online for doing the right thing.
Understanding Investigation Protocols
Tatum takes time to educate viewers on proper investigation protocols, explaining why certain things happen the way they do. He addresses complaints about the lack of immediate crime scene tape, explaining that when an active shooter situation is unfolding, the priority is eliminating the threat, not setting up perimeter tape.
"A shooting occurred. Cops are trying to eliminate the threat. They don't know if it's multiple shooters. They don't know if they can find the shooter. They got people distracting them. They don't have time to come set up a crime scene tape," he explains.
Crime scene establishment works from the outside in, he clarifies. Investigators first establish a large perimeter to keep media and crowds at bay, then gradually make the secured area smaller as they identify specific locations where evidence exists. This process takes time and follows established protocols.
Regarding the hand signals seen in footage, Tatum dismisses these theories as well, noting that Frank Turek was one of the people making hand signals and that the video team has been with Turning Point USA for years. These are trusted individuals who have worked countless events.
The Ballistics Question: .30-06 Ammunition
Tatum addresses questions about whether a .30-06 round could have caused the injuries Charlie sustained without creating an exit wound. He acknowledges that he personally has never fired a .30-06, having only experience with 5.56, .223, .308, and 7.62 rounds from his AK (which he admits he hates).
He explains what he's learned from research and from speaking with tactical individuals and hunters: a .30-06 round doesn't reach maximum velocity immediately. Within 150-200 feet, it hasn't achieved the full momentum and inertia that makes it so devastating at longer ranges when hunting large animals like elk or moose at 600 yards.
"The question is, did it reach maximum velocity to do the damage to Charlie that people see it due to elk and all these other big heavy animals?" Tatum asks. He notes that the medical examiner or surgeon indicated the bullet entered, was lodged, and the spinal cord stopped it—information that typically comes from an autopsy rather than an emergency room doctor trying to save someone's life.
Tatum suggests that for those who find it impossible that a .30-06 could be stopped by Charlie's body, perhaps this itself is a testimony to God's involvement: "Maybe to some of y'all this is a testimony that God has was a part of this and God knew what he was doing when this happened."
The Danger of Tampering with Evidence
Tatum provides crucial information about evidence handling and why people need to stop soliciting footage or information outside official channels. He explains several ways that well-meaning conspiracy theorists could actually harm the investigation:
- If you have evidence on your phone, your phone becomes evidence that can be seized
- Making copies of evidence without disclosure could be considered tampering
- Coercing others to share evidence could result in criminal charges
- Widely distributing evidence could make it inadmissible in court
- Compromising the chain of custody makes evidence unusable
"You start tampering with evidence. You start soliciting evidence. You start going after people and intimidating them to give you evidence. You could go to jail," Tatum warns. He emphasizes that if people love Charlie, they need to let investigators do their work without interference.
He reminds viewers that they can eventually request evidence through Freedom of Information Act requests once the investigation is complete and it won't damage the prosecution. There's no need to extract evidence illegally when the government is legally required to provide it once appropriate.
Why Trust This Investigation
Tatum makes a compelling argument for why people should trust this particular investigation, despite legitimate concerns about government failures in other cases like Jeffrey Epstein. He points to several key factors:
President Donald Trump, who Charlie Kirk helped get elected multiple times, personally chose the people leading this investigation. Trump knew and loved Charlie, who volunteered in Trump's first election and became the driving force for young voter turnout in subsequent elections.
"Do you think that Donald Trump would let this young man whom he loved get a have a botched investigation?" Tatum asks. "Donald Trump chose Kash Patel. Donald Trump picked all these other individuals. And you think all these people are conspiring against the biggest most prominent martyr to ever live in American history?"
Tatum emphasizes Charlie Kirk's unprecedented status as a martyr: "Charlie Kirk is the biggest and most prominent martyr of the faith to ever live outside of Jesus to ever live." He notes that billions of people watched Charlie's death happen in real time—something that didn't occur even with Jesus Christ. Hundreds of millions are watching his content, and millions who never knew Charlie or thought about Christ are now following him on social media.
The idea that Trump and Kash Patel would cover up the assassination of such an important figure—someone who helped secure Trump's presidency—is absurd to Tatum.
The Evidence Actually Points to the Suspect
Tatum walks through the substantial evidence already publicly known about the suspect in custody:
- He was at the location during the crime
- He sent text messages to his lover about the shooting
- He made statements on Discord about being radicalized
- His father turned him in and said his son did it
- A sheriff deputy who lived near the suspect called authorities after being notified by the suspect's father
- The suspect confessed to his parents and wanted to surrender without violence
- The vehicle evidence matches the suspect's vehicle
- The gun belonged to his grandfather
- The bullet was recovered and can be matched to the specific firearm through rifling analysis
Tatum points out the absurdity of thinking the government is simultaneously smart enough to orchestrate this massive conspiracy involving dozens of people over months or years, yet dumb enough to release text message evidence that doesn't make sense or could give them away.
"Y'all think these people are smart enough to pull off the biggest assassination in world history, but they're not smart enough to read a text thread that will give them away," he says. "Man, you could do a ChatGPT that give you a text that you want."
If It Was a Cover-Up, They'd Do It Differently
Tatum makes a critical point: if the government actually wanted to cover this up, they would handle it completely differently. They wouldn't need to show the public text messages, gun details, or any specifics about the evidence—they could simply say they have the perpetrator in custody and provide no details until trial.
Most importantly, regarding the recovered bullet: "If they wanted to lie to you, they would have said they couldn't find the bullet." Every bullet has a unique signature from the rifling of the gun that fired it, essentially like a DNA sample. With a recovered bullet, forensic experts will test-fire the suspect's gun and compare the rifling patterns under magnification to definitively prove which gun fired the bullet that killed Charlie.
"If they wanted to cover it up, they didn't never show you that no bullet would exist," Tatum emphasizes. The existence of recoverable ballistic evidence actually makes a cover-up much more difficult, not easier.
The Surgeon's Statement About the Bullet
Tatum addresses the statement from Andrew Kolvet, executive producer of the Charlie Kirk Show and TPUSA spokesperson, who spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie. The surgeon confirmed there was no exit wound—the bullet should have gone through Charlie's body but didn't. It was found just beneath the skin.
The surgeon called it "an absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed" and noted that even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him by stopping the bullet.
Conspiracy theorists are now claiming this is a lie, which Tatum finds offensive and illogical. "Why in the world would Andrew lie about this, y'all?" he asks. Andrew was one of Charlie's best friends, someone who did the show with him every day. The idea that Andrew would accept anything but the truth about his best friend's death, or that he's somehow part of a cover-up, is absurd.
Tatum explains that autopsy protocols involve multiple people—someone performing the autopsy and others witnessing and signing off on it. The bullet recovery would be documented by multiple professionals, not just one person who could be bought off. "There are protocols in place. People they can't just say, 'I found a bullet.' They have to perform an autopsy. People have to witness the autopsy."
Charlie Kirk Meant Something Personal
Tatum gets emotional discussing his personal relationship with Charlie Kirk, pushing back against accusations that he's a "sellout" for defending the official investigation:
"I care about Charlie. I don't know how everybody else feel. I care about Charlie. I consider Charlie a friend to me," he states. "I never said no to Charlie because I love Charlie and I respected that man. And I would go to war for Charlie."
He explains that while they didn't talk every day, there are people you know and love where you don't need constant communication—when that phone call comes in, you're there. When Charlie was called a racist, Tatum stood up for him because he knew who Charlie really was.
"Ain't no way in the world if I thought that this was made up would I defend stupid stuff because Charlie mean more to me than this killer and the government. I don't know people in the government," Tatum declares. He finds it insulting that people think he would defend a cover-up given his relationship with Charlie.
He's particularly upset that people close to Charlie—Andrew Kolvet, Frank Turek, the video team, the security team—are all being accused of being part of some conspiracy when these were Charlie's closest friends and protectors who risked their lives for him for years.
Stop Cheapening Charlie's Life
Tatum's central message is that people need to stop "cheapening Charlie Kirk's life by coming up with these crazy conspiracies outside of unequivocal evidence." He's not saying people can't ask questions, but committing to conspiracy theories without evidence is harmful in multiple ways:
- It attacks innocent people who loved Charlie (security team, video crew, Andrew Kolvet, Frank Turek)
- It potentially compromises the investigation and could make evidence inadmissible
- It could help the actual perpetrator's defense by creating confusion
- It disrespects Charlie's memory by turning his death into clickbait content
- It undermines public trust in a legitimate investigation under a friendly administration
Tatum acknowledges that many people pushing these theories are doing it for money and clicks, not because they genuinely believe them. He's seen YouTubers and content creators he previously trusted jumping on conspiracy bandwagon theories for engagement.
"Charlie Kirk has become another mean for some of y'all. Another means to gaining money and influence," he observes sadly. "At least wait till the investigation is over before you start making comments."
The Investigation Will Reveal the Truth
Tatum concludes by emphasizing that all of this information will come out in court when the suspect goes to trial. The autopsy will be presented as evidence. The ballistics analysis will be shown. The text messages, Discord posts, witness statements, and all other evidence will be part of the public record.
"This stuff is going to come up in court to put this guy away and give him a death penalty, you got to show the autopsy," he explains. If there are inconsistencies or cover-ups, they will be exposed during the trial process.
His message is clear: let the investigators do their work. Trust that President Trump and Kash Patel, who both cared about Charlie Kirk, will ensure a thorough and honest investigation. Wait for evidence before declaring conspiracies. And most importantly, stop attacking the people who loved Charlie and are grieving his loss while simultaneously being accused of being complicit in his murder.
The real way to honor Charlie Kirk's memory is to demand justice through proper channels, support his family and friends during this impossible time, and allow the legal system to work so that the person responsible can be held fully accountable.
Video Transcript
And the bullet went like up and then went down and around and it went out to the parking lot, came back in with some velocity and hit Charlie in the neck. That's what somebody silly enough to think that that that happened. Whoever think that happened, y'all need to text them and say that that what you doing? What you doing? I got to get to these conspiracies. I made a video on Instagram about this. Stop already. I'm seeing people that I trust. I'm seeing tactical dudes in the military making videos that like like bro at what point and I know people are doing it for clicks and money. You got to be. You got to be. You got to be. There's no way in the world that a conscious person is sitting here pushing conspiracies because they really believe this stuff. And it's not about money. It's about money, y'all. If you push conspiracies, you get a lot of people want to watch your stuff. I've seen so many people on YouTube doing this. Dudes that I trust, tactical dudes from the military, pushing conspiracy. I'm like, "Wait a minute, dude. You You Why would you You know, and I know that it's too early in the game to be to be committing to a conspiracy. It's okay to question stuff, but you're committing to a conspiracy. It's too early in the game for some of y'all to be bringing up things as a conspiracy that ain't a conspiracy." I Okay, here's the conspiracy that somebody sent me. I guess people are saying that somebody popped out a tunnel like the Ninja Turtles and shot Charlie in the neck without nobody knowing and the bullet went like up and then went down and around and then went out to the parking lot, came back in with some velocity and hit Charlie in the neck. That's what somebody silly enough to think that that that happened. Whoever think that happened, y'all need to text them and say that that what you doing? What you doing? More than likely, this could be some type of irrigation system or some type of something that's dealing with this area. Whether it's lighting, whether it's irrigation, whether it's this water spout, it could be a sewage drainage that's going down and collecting right there at the bottom of that thing. And they go down in there and they do what they got to do in there. I do not believe whatsoever that's a tunnel to go anywhere to do anything. And nobody on planet Earth should have the nerve to think that this is connected in an investigation. The Fed has finally dropped interest rates and that's great news for American homeowners. Expenses have been major burdens on the family. Wages have been flat. Prices keep climbing. And for many, the only way that you can make ends meet is leaning on credit cards. But that cycle has high interest debt making it hard to stay ahead. If you're a homeowner, I want you to call my friends at American Financing. Right now, interest rates have dropped. 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As if his team of like seven people who was in security was standing right there and didn't hear nor see somebody pop out of somewhere and shoot Charlie and go back in. It's like really bothering me that there are people out there even suggesting that Charlie security team was somehow, you know, lackluster or invol like insanely involved with something like absolutely not. The Charlie security team we've known for many many years. Uh they are like brothers with Charlie. We have an elite force of people who are supporting Charlie at all times. And had they even known or suspected that there would be even an element of danger that day in Utah, they wouldn't have even let him out of the car, off the plane, you know, into public life. Every single event that's held is a combination of our security team working with the local police. In this case, on university campuses is the university police. The university police department is responsible. there's a line that is drawn, right, where there's personal protection for Charlie versus protection for the campus in in this case or if if it's out in, you know, the world, the city or or whatever, right? In this case for Utah Valley University, they their responsibility was to protect the campus, all of the perimeter, rooftops, everything else. We when we go out in public, our team handles those things where there isn't a police department to to work with or do that with. So whether it's a drone program or covering all those angles or perimeter, they do all that. But when you're having to work with partners who are responsible for those those elements, you know, you're depending on them. There are some elements here where it's like there are people asking, well, why wasn't this that? Well, that wasn't Charlie's. Charlie's team would have done anything and everything, particularly if it was completely within our purview. >> Um, and they did an incredible and impeccable job um, at all times, always covering Charlie. I mean, they were the first people that were trying to save Charlie's life when he was when he was assassinated um, you know, and doing all of that. Um, they they love that man inside and out, right? and and they would do the same not just for Charlie, but for anyone on our team and they would they would take a bullet, jump in front of a car, do anything that they possibly could. And so we're praying for them. We hope that everybody is praying for them because they um you know they're being unfairly targeted by people who online who are making suggestion like really wild crazy suggestions that are not even possibly remotely true. And uh you know that's really hard on people who are you that love and care so much for a person. >> Mhm. >> And and again too I I mean I feel bad for other officers that were involved with this, right? That were maybe part of the department and things like that. Um obviously there's some really significant and dramatic lessons to be learned there coming out of this. A really competent drone program, for example, would have saved Charlie's life, right? And and that that should that that should be the standard protocol on every single campus. uh without without question, you know, there should be eyes on every rooftop at all times like with with everything. We'll see what happens with the investigation and what comes out on on all of that and how this you know tragedy unfolded. Um you know, the the guy is in custody custody and he's going to be going to trial and all this is going to come out. So, you know, we're waiting just like everybody else. >> What kind of what what kind of 007? Ain't nobody came out of that thing and shot Charlie right over there when people are standing all across there. You telling me people are the video team there. They got cameras there. They got people sitting outside of these rafters that are looking at they got the camera set on him. All of his security surrounding him and somebody pops up like a jack in a box and shoot Charlie Kirk. How you going to pop up and aim? You can come out a tunnel and somehow you you right on point. But you come out just enough where nobody see you and you shoot what caliber of gun? You gonna pull a you gonna do a 45 with a silencer? Then the impact that Charlie visibly you can see didn't come from no handgun. You think you pull a you think you pull a rifle out of there and pow. You got a big suppressor on the front of that thing. Suppressor on the front of that thing got to be this big. You pop out a tunnel, most of your gun is the suppressor. Somebody put a suppressor out and shot through that. The hand signals were BS. We all know, right? Frank Turk was one of the guys doing hand signals for for you nut jobs. Then we know the video team. I know the guys on the video team. I'm not going to say their name cuz I don't want to disclose them anything, but I know these guys. I talk to these guys all the time. They do they do my stuff when I go to campus, too. All the time. Ever since the beginning of time, Charlie Kirkus had the same pe at least one guy. The guy you see on that camera that was taking the SD cards out, that dude been there forever. Every event I've ever done, he's been there. And you talking about he trying to do some nefarious thing, stealing the camera, that's his his boy got killed in front of him, y'all. And y'all out here putting that man out there. And some of y'all who know him and putting him out there, you should be ashamed of yourself because now people are attacking him. Frank Turk is getting attacked. Turning Point USA is getting attacked because now they got people out here thinking it's a cover up. FBI getting attack. Lord, stop. And then when it comes to the 308 round, I mean the 3006, not 308, the 3006. I've never shot a 306. I never seen anything shot with a 306 except for online. Only thing I've ever shot was 5.56 223 and I shot 308. I've never and a 762 cuz I have a AK and a 762 which I hate. The AK is terrible. I would I want to give it give it away to somebody. Um that's the only gun that's the only rounds that I've ever shot of a gun. Now I've shot at all kind of stuff and I see the I've shot through cars and stuff like that before in training and I can see what these rounds do. I've never shot a 306. I go online and I'm looking at people talk about 306. A lot of people are saying it's impossible that Charlie was shot with a 300 6 because it would have just it decapitated him. Now, there's other people that come online and they go, "Well, no, 306 didn't get up to its maximum velocity because if you were within 150 feet, 200 feet, it hadn't got up to the max velocity." Like shooting a elk or shooting a moose or deer or something at I don't know if you shoot a deer with a 36, but you probably do. Maybe a big one that at 600 ft 600 yards is right around the not 600 yards, but you get what I'm saying. It can go at 600 yards and hit some and kill it. So, it's got a a level of momentum and inertia that's created over a distance of time. Now, I'm not saying this is 100% true. I'm just telling you guys what I've seen on the internet from people who are tactical individuals, hunters, and people who shoot 306. So, the question is, did it reach maximum velocity to do the damage to Charlie that people see it due to elk and all these other big heavy animals that obviously is much bigger and more powerful than a than a regular man? The doctor claimed, and I, this may be the coroner, I doubt it was the doctor that did surgery on him because normally a doctor that's doing surgery on you ain't worried about how it happened to you. They just trying to worry about stopping the bleeding. Now, normally when you when when they can't do nothing for you, they put you in the morg. And when they put you in the morg, they do an autopsy. So, the person doing the autopsy may have told Turning Point staff because they're family and connected and they may have gotten permission or maybe they heard somebody from another person or whatever the case may be may have made mention that the bullet entered into this part and it was lodged and they think the spinal cord is what stopped it. That that kind of rhetoric or that kind of spec specificity mostly comes from somebody who has done an autopsy. It really don't come from a doctor at the ICU that's, you know, and then trying to save somebody's life. They they not even looking for a bullet. They're trying to look for the where whatever can stop the bleeding or whatever. And I'm sure Charlie had no chance and it was nothing to save him. So they pretty much called that pretty fast and then they took him down to the morg. So with that being said, can God do miracles? Yes. So if you somehow think that it was impossible for a 30 six to travel through Charlie Kirk and get lodged into the into his skin and was stopped because of his vertebrae or something of that nature. God can do anything. Maybe to some of y'all this is a testimony that God has was a part of this and God knew what he was doing when this happened. The the theory that he was shot by someone else. It's okay to question and evaluate, but you need to have evidence before you say it because then you look like a a cuckoo head. And then you're creating strife and causing other people to get in trouble. Like early on, people talking about this wing section, this this this plane, this private plane that went off the went off the grid and and now these people on this plane got to worry about people coming after him because they think that this may have something to do with Charlie's murder. Come to find out, it had nothing to do with Charlie's murder. I don't I don't know, bro. The reason that I sound so sane in this circumstance and the reason that people probably think, "Well, Brandon, you you kind of like not taking a side on this cuz I know how investigations work. It takes time. It's methodical." And I think Catch Patel and them shouldn't even be talking about anything. They should be getting results and then they come back and tell the people. Let the people question because what happens when you come out ahead of it, you darn if you do, you're darn if you don't. You come out and act like you're being transparent and then information change. Now they saying you lied. People are smearing Cash Patel for coming online and and doing this tweet. I don't know if he got the tweet. Catch Patel went online and and tweeted I could just articulate it. And he had made mention that he's going to look into every aspect of investigation. Meaning that the text messages between the two Discord channel, the camera. He said the camera thing he's going to do he's going to do EV, you know, he's going to do an investigation that all catches Patel doing is saying I'm going to be thorough and I'm going to listen to everybody. I'm not going to I'm not going to act like I don't hear it because it's a conspiracy. I'm gonna investigate the bottom line of every single thing that we hear that comes out there. We will find it. We will investigate it. And we will debunk it if it's necessary. That's all Kesh is saying because he's trying to quash the the the conspiracies out there that's acting like they're covering up a murder. But then when he do that, what do people do? See, see, look y'all, he actually trying to investigate what we saying. No, he not. He know it's bull crap. He know ain't nothing going on with them cameras. You think turning point media guys? He in on it. Play the clip. He in on it, man. Charlie just got Charlie just got shot right here. And what do you think people are doing? They don't have time for investigators to come lock the scene down. This is a massive scene. We don't see any yellow tape. Yellow tape. First of all, a shooting occurred. Cops are trying to eliminate the threat. They don't know if it's multiple shooters. They don't know if they can find the shooter. They got people distracting them. They don't have time to come set up a crime scene tape. That's for officers that are not actively involved in trying to stop a murderer. That comes a little later. Yes, the crime scene could be compromised, but they have cameras and they have footage and they have all that that can tell the story of what happened before they got there. So, they're not going to have the thing out. And then, for those of you who had never done the investigation, you set the perimeter first. So, the crime scene tape is going to start outside of the perimeter. They're going to have to crime scene tape the campus off. Then they're going to try to get the people off the campus and then they're going to begin to to make the crime scene smaller and smaller and smaller because what you got to worry about is the media. So they have to get the crime scene tape way out there so they can put the media way out there. Then they have another layer of crime tape where the investigators can come in. Then they have to start getting specific areas where they know that crimes have been committed or evidence is present. Then they begin to tape those places off. It goes bigger and smaller. So now you see as at some point the crime scene tape this part off. That's after they do a perimeter. That's after they do all the stuff that they have to do. It's complicated. But go back to the video people. And obviously Turning Point USA came out about this >> one other conspiracy theory I just want to snuff out here. One of our dear friends that literally from the very beginning started with us and loved Charlie like a brother. He grabbed the SD cards out of the camera afterwards. And there's all these conspiracy v videos about why did he grab the SD cards? Well, first of all, they're in the possession of the FBI, okay? It's not like he took them and like ran off with them. Second of all, I asked him personally. I said, "Why did you do that?" And he looked at me and this was his answer. He said, "Because I know people can be evil." And he did not want that footage being grabbed by somebody. There was videos of people after the incident going and stealing hats off the table. I mean, so I'm so grateful he did that and that that was his instinct. He's like, I'm depressed to know that that was why I did that, but I knew that I had to protect that footage because I know I wanted I mean, you know, you're recording in like 4K, you know, and so I'm so glad he did that. He did the smart thing and that is when all these people are scrambling and everybody's doing this and they stealing they stealing hats off the table. He made the smart decision to say let me secure the camera footage so nobody steal it. That's what he was doing because people will steal the camera and then they'll put it on the dark web where they got Charlie getting his neck blown out and they putting it all out. They selling it to people. So, the smart thing to do is get our equipment, secure the SD cards, and we can deliver them over to the government for them to investigate. Let me add this. I'm here to help you. If you have evidence of a crime, please don't share it with anybody but the police. Please don't ask nobody to share confidential evidence with you because you know what happens? You can be a part of interfering with an investigation. Let me explain different elements of that. Give me the screen. Let me show you different elements of being a part of that. If you have evidence of a crime on your cell phone, your phone can be considered evidence. If somebody communicate with you with evidence of a crime, the government can then seize your electronic communication depending on if they feel like it's relevant in an investigation. The best thing for you to do if you have footage is for you to turn it over to the investigators. You go make a copy of that footage now making a and you if you don't tell them, they may not know. But if you made a copy and they find out you made a copy, they're going to need to know where the evidence is on your phone and where you made a copy of the evidence at. Because what they can't have is that you manipulated evidence. So, they have to have a chain of command. They have to say, "This is the actual SD card. This is not an edited. This is not a a manufactured SD card. This is the raw evidence footage that we can extract and use for the investigation. You start tampering with evidence. You start soliciting evidence. You start going after people and intimidating them to give you evidence. You could go to jail. you could go to jail. Because if if somehow the investigators believe that you coerced another person against their will into giving over evidence to them and they're not an investigator, then what? Then the thing is, here's another thing. You can end up getting evidence inadmissible in court. If you go take evidence and you go put it out into the ether where everybody in the world has seen that level of evidence. Therefore, when they go to pull a juror, the jurors in you got evidence that's so, you know, blatantly presented, you could possibly cause that evidence to not be admissible in court. It's not always circumstance. Obviously, it's circumstantial, but if it's some important evidence that you secretly go and hide and steal and put out and promote on the internet, and it may not be admissible evidence. They may conclude that the evidence had been tampered with and so therefore they can't use it against the person in the court of law. That's why when I get evidence that people send me, I hold off on it until I know that it's not going to interfere in the investigation. And you got people out here tampering with evidence potentially. You don't want to do that. It's okay to be an investigator, but let the people do their job first. You can always for request the evidence. That mean once the evidence is made available to the public, you can give a freedom of information act and you can fory request that information from local government, federal government, whatever the case may be. You can send a for your request and if it's not prevented or there's no reason for them to upho, you know, withhold it from a journalist to use and evaluate and it's not damaging to the investigation, they have to release it to you. So you don't have to go and extract evidence. You don't have to go and profit evidence anywhere because the government has to give it to you by law if it's not interfering in the investigation. So if you love Charlie, do not compromise the investigation by doing things outside of what the federal government is doing in this investigation. Contact the federal government if you have evidence. And a lot of people say, "We can't trust them. We can't trust them. We can't trust them." You can trust regular people on the street that haven't sworn to do anything that if they lie, they don't go to jail. The FBI, you lie, you go to jail for the most part. Y'all know they be tripping sometimes, but under Trump's FBI, I think you go to jail. What do you say? Yeah, we voted for Let's Let me put this in perspective and then we going to go on to some more stuff. Can y'all hear me very clearly? In good faith, Donald Trump was elected president. I think Donald Trump will give all that he has to make sure that Charlie Kirk and his family gets justice. Don't you agree? Any rational person would know Donald Trump will give his last ounce of energy to make sure that the young man who helped him get elected every election. Charlie volunteered in Trump's first election. Most of y'all don't know that. Then Trump Then Charlie became the driving force of young people turning out to get Trump elected. Do you think that Donald Trump would let this young man whom he loved get a have a botched investigation? Donald Trump chose Cash Patel. Donald Trump picked all these other individuals. And you think all these people are conspiring against the biggest most prominent martyr to ever live in American history uh world history. My sound go out. Charlie Kirk is the biggest and most and most prominent martyr of the faith to ever live outside of Jesus to ever live. Do you see how many billions of people are watching this content? Billions of people saw him get martyed at the all at once. Billions. When Jesus was alive, a billion people didn't know he died. Charlie had a billion people see him die. Charlie had a billion people begin to inquire and question and wonder what who is this guy? Why would they do him this way? Let me go watch his content. We were looking at it. Hund some million people watch his content in a week. Millions of people are following him on social media. People that never thought about Christ, never knew Charlie, now they talking about him. Now he's all over their feed. One of the biggest martyrs to ever live. And you think Trump will botch the investigation? You think you you think Ces Patel will botch the investigation? When I say botch, cover it up. You think these people covering this up? It's just I understand the questioning, but to declare something so ridiculous. It's wrong. And it creates doubt for no reason. We should be unified on this. And people bring up Epstein. Epstein had the investigation in Epstein was before any of these people came into office. And just because the government failed in this area, you you a fool to just blindly think they fail in everything they do. You you got to compartmentalize and say, "I'm going to go issue by issue by issue." That's the same way if they were right about everything. That don't mean you think they right about everything. You got to say, "Okay, let me look at this issue. Let me let me evaluate this." You got a guy who shot from the top of the roof. The government already said he didn't take the gun down and build it back up. So, let get rid of that rumor that was out there. He runs to the thing. They found the gun where he ran. He sent messages to his lover. His father was His father said he did it. His father turned him in. You think his father they paid him enough money to just randomly pick his son to turn him in as a sacrifice? I mean, maybe people think they framed him, but the kid is in the area during the crime. The kid told people he was radicalized. The kid told people he did it through text message. He even made mention of some of this on Discord. the sheriff deputy that live across the street from them or next door to them made a phone call to the sheriff and told the sheriff that they got the guy who killed Charlie who confessed to it and and and and and told the sheriff that he wanted to surrender without violence. So the deputy had a conversation with the sheriff because he was eluded it was it was he was notified of the killer from the killer's dad. They got the vehicle. They got evidence of the vehicle driving away, which matched the vehicle of the kid that that confessed to it to his parents. They got the gun that belonged to his grandfather. Let me let me add one more thing. They got the bullet. Let me let me give y'all some insight real quick. If the government wanted to cover this up, they would have never showed you a text message thread cuz they don't have to. He's already in jail. If they knew that you guys could misconstrue or they knew that a a detective wrote a text message thread that don't make no sense. Y'all think these people are smart enough to to pull off the biggest assassination in the in world history, but they're not smart enough to read a text thread that will give them away. Man, you could do a chat TV that give you a text that you want. But you think they smart enough to somehow find a way and planned, I'm assuming they planned this for years or months to assassinate Charlie Kirk because they got to get the daddy involved. They got to get the trans boyfriend involved. They got to get his Discord channel right. They got to get his his his his the sh the deputy on cross street right. They got to get his radicalization right. They got to get all his family that have testified right. They got to make sure the car right. They got to make sure the gun right. They got to make sure the caliber matched the gun. They got to do all this stuff that they had to be planning for years, but they can't get a text thread, right? Man, they just wouldn't tell you that. They wouldn't even bring it up. They they don't they don't they don't need that for the investigation. They can say, "We found the guy. He going to jail. Go f yourself until we get to trial." They don't have to tell you nothing. And if they want to cover it up, that's all they have to do is just cover it up. They don't have to show y'all what kind of gun it was. They can just tell you it's whatever gun they want to tell you. They don't have to show anything because it's a part of evidence. They don't have to disclose it to the public. They could tell you they said anything they want to say to all these people. They never show you any message exchange, but but you think they smart enough to pull off the hit job, but they're not smart enough to divulge information they never have to divulge to you inaccurately. It's it's you got to be stupid to believe some of this stuff. And then beyond all of that, if they wanted to lie to you, they would have said they couldn't find the bullet. Do you guys understand the forensic evidence on a bullet? If they wanted to lie, they would have just told you what gun it was, but there would be no bullet because with no bullet, you can't verify what gun it was shot from. But now they've recovered a bullet. Every bullet has a signature on it, which means that it has rifling from a particular gun that it was shot from. It's almost like a DNA sample. They can tell you exactly what gun it was shot from. If they have a bullet, they found a bullet. If the government want to trick you, they would have never had the bullet be exposed because now they have to prove that the bullet came from this gun. So what are they going to do? They're going to test fire that gun and patterns of rifling. They're going to do it and they're going to put it on a lens and they're going to compare the rifling on the bullet they found in Charlie with the bullet that was fired from that gun. And they're going to be able to say this bullet came from this gun. If they wanted to cover it up, they didn't never show you that no bullet would exist. But you guys are cheapening Charlie Kirk's life by coming up with these crazy conspiracies outside of unequivocal evidence. And let me tell you something else. What's that? Okay, let's let's play the bullet thing. Roll it. >> Also, Kelly, we're hearing Charlie Kirk's organization is revealing new details surrounding his death. What are they saying about this? >> Yeah, I wanted to get to that. There is uh a new post out from the executive producer of the Charlie Kirk show, TPUSA spokesperson Andrew Kulvit, and he wanted to post this. He said he spoke with the surgeon who worked on Charlie in the hospital, and they were talking about the exit wound. So, uh, Kulit was saying that there was no exit wound. We are still waiting to confirm this with the hospital, but he said he spoke with a surgeon who worked on Charlie. He said the bullet absolutely should have gone through, but it didn't go through. Charlie's body stopped it. He said, quote, "It was an absolute miracle that someone else didn't get killed." Uh, they did find the bullet just beneath the skin, he says. And even in death, he finishes that Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him. So, that was just posted within the last hour. We wanted to make sure we shared that with you as well. >> Now, why in the would would Andrew lie about this, y'all? Y'all, it's more stupidity. People that are saying that's a lie. So, you saying that the they got the doctor in on it now? The coroner? Because there's a doctor in the corner. There's two different people. There's a surgeon that's working on him and there's the coroner that do the autopsy. So you telling me that they they in on it? And you telling me that Andrew, who was Charlie's, one of Charlie's best friends, will accept anything but the truth? So now he in on it? He lied. You You think he going to sit there and let the man lie to him? That's his best friend. They do the show every day together. I know Andrew, you guys got to stop this stuff because now Andrew probably getting threats because people were like, "You covering it up." So now the doctor covering it up. Now the hospital is covering it up. Now you know how hard it is to have that many people cover this stuff up. There are protocols in place. People they can't just say, "I found a bullet." They have to perform an autopsy. People have to witness the autopsy. I'm sorry, Nick. I'm yelling. I got the earphones on. They People have to witness the Somebody have to sign off on the autopsy. What are we saying, y'all? The bullet. They claim they found a bullet. They have to diagnose where it came from and they have to document it. Y'all don't even know Charlie and you think you care about it more than Andrew. I Nick Nick feel me on this one. Andrew Andrew going to just let him lie to him. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Frank Turk going to let Charlie's tactical team. They've been following him for year. They just they let a lie come out. Yeah. No, he was Yeah. Yeah. These guys were in the military. Some of these guys are in the military and they just Yeah, Charlie. Yeah, Charlie. Yeah, lie. This is our best friend. We tried to We've been risking our lives for Charlie Kirk for the last 10 years, but we just going to let people just say whatever. Put your thinking cap on. People like, "Brandon, you a sellout." Y'all, are y'all serious, bro? I care about Charlie. I don't know how everybody else feel. I care about Charlie. I consider Charlie a friend to me. You can ask anybody that knew Charlie, was around Charlie. I never said no to Charlie because I love Charlie and I respected that man. And I would go to war for Charlie. Brandon, can you do this? Brandon, can you do that? I'm on it. Charlie was my dog. Now, me and him didn't talk every day. But there's people that you know and you love. You don't got to talk every day. You know what it is. When that phone call come in, I got you, bro. B Brandon, they they they say I'm a racist, man. I can't believe I got you, bro. I got you, bro. I stand up for you because I know who you really are. Ain't no way in the world if I thought that this was made up would I defend stupid stuff if cuz Charlie mean more to me than this killer and the government. I don't know people in the government. But bro, for y'all to think this is one big conspiracy is crazy. It's too many moving parts now. Now you got to get the doctor to come. I if I if I'm not mistaken, there's two people that do an autopsy. There's a person performing an autopsy and there's a person evaluating the performance of an autopsy. Now it may not have to happen every time, but last time I checked it was that. So other person will sign off. One person can't do all that. Debboning people uh uh uh harvesting, you know, they getting the organs out. Like one person don't normally do all that. It take a few people to do all that, you know, and and and Charlie Kirk has become another mean for some of y'all. Another means to gaining money and influence. At least wait till the investigation is over before you start making comments. They shot him. They It was a two shooters. We don't have any evidence that it was two shooters. Where's the entry wound now? The doctor made up an entry wound. Charlie don't have an entry wound on his autopsy. He only have I mean, he don't have exit wound. I mean, I'm sorry. If you think this was the exit, where's his entry wound? This stuff is going to come up in court to put this guy away and give him a death penalty, you got to show the autopsy. So now you think they they they made a fake autopsy. Sugar, honey, iced tea. All right, let's get to some other stuff. [Music]
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