Candace and Erika Kirk FACE OFF

[00:00] So, I guess soon we're going to be

[00:01] finding out who's the liar. Is it

[00:03] Candace Owens or is it Erica Kirk? Um,

[00:07] the question involves Charlie Kirk and

[00:10] whether or not he knew he was in danger,

[00:13] if whether or not he knew his life was

[00:14] in danger. This um spat starts off, let

[00:18] me actually show you some clips to kind

[00:19] of understand what what this spat is.

[00:21] And Candace essentially says that people

[00:23] told her that Charlie says his life he

[00:26] said that his life was in danger. Erica

[00:27] says that's not true. He, you know, of

[00:29] course they had obviously a level of

[00:32] worry and concern about his safety,

[00:34] otherwise he wouldn't have needed that

[00:35] security team and whatnot, but she's

[00:37] saying that she he wasn't sending texts

[00:39] to people saying that his life was in

[00:41] danger. Now, the two ladies are going to

[00:43] be meeting together in a private meeting

[00:45] today, uh, where they're going to be

[00:47] talking, I guess, off the record in

[00:49] private, face to face, and and then

[00:52] we'll see who emerges and if they have a

[00:56] discussion about who the liar might be.

[00:58] But first of all, here's Frank Turk.

[00:59] This is on September 16th. He was like a

[01:03] second father to Charlie Kirk. And he

[01:06] was in the car when Charlie Kirk was

[01:08] shot. He was in the car taking Charlie

[01:11] to the hospital. He's the one that said

[01:13] Charlie's he was already gone, that

[01:15] there was like no life there, that he

[01:17] was gone. And Frank also says in that

[01:20] same conversation that Charlie did tell

[01:23] him that his life was in danger. Watch

[01:25] this. And he also knew the power and

[01:27] privilege of prayer. A month ago, he he

[01:29] wrote me this. Please pray for me. I'm

[01:31] under the gun on something right now.

[01:33] Prayer is appreciated.

[01:35] So Charlie was all about Jesus. That's

[01:39] the Jesus was the most important aspect

[01:42] of his life. Secondly,

[01:46] only second to Jesus

[01:49] was his family. Look for that book to

[01:51] come out soon. So Charlie was all about

[01:53] Jesus.

[01:55] He was secondly all about his family.

[01:57] Number three, and you know this, it's so

[01:59] inspiring, but I need to say it. Charlie

[02:02] had courage.

[02:04] A few months ago, there was some violent

[02:06] act in the news, and

[02:08] I texted him and I said, "I hope you've

[02:10] increased your security detail." He

[02:12] texted me back. He said, quote, "I have.

[02:14] I know they want me dead."

[02:18] And I don't know who he meant by they,

[02:21] maybe just radicals on the left, but

[02:23] that didn't stop him from exposing

[02:25] himself to j to danger. No, look,

[02:29] Charlie didn't really like the word

[02:30] safe.

[02:33] Okay, so he says, "I know they want me

[02:35] dead." And Frank is saying, "We don't

[02:37] know who he was talking about. He could

[02:38] have been talking about leftists." But

[02:40] you would think that his wife would know

[02:42] this, right? I mean, if she's saying,

[02:44] "No, he never said anything like that."

[02:47] Uh, this is what Erica says about what

[02:50] Charlie may or may not have said.

[02:53] >> Do you think Charlie knew to some degree

[02:56] and had made the conscience the

[02:58] conscious choice that

[03:02] I I may be taken out early. Not saying

[03:04] he knew that that day, but that he had

[03:08] any inkling that this might come his way

[03:11] and that he intentionally chose to move

[03:14] forward

[03:16] with faith in God.

[03:18] >> It's interesting because we always we

[03:21] have I mean I still I have unbelievable

[03:24] amounts of death threats. My kids have

[03:26] kidnapping threats, death threats. Our

[03:29] whole team has death threats.

[03:31] We we knew that there was always going

[03:33] to be a threat, but Charlie and I always

[03:35] we promised each other we would never

[03:37] live in fear. And he would say, "If

[03:39] they're going to get me, they're going

[03:40] to get me." But he was not messaging

[03:42] people the day before saying, "I'm going

[03:46] to be murdered. They're coming after me.

[03:48] Someone's going to kill me." He didn't

[03:51] say that. And I have his cell phone.

[03:55] >> Didn't say that. And so what I do know

[03:58] is that we believe in the power of

[04:00] prayer. And what I do know is that we

[04:02] believe in our sovereign God. And what I

[04:04] do know is that that night before we did

[04:08] what we usually did before tours, we

[04:10] said our prayer and we asked the Lord to

[04:13] protect us and we asked the Lord that

[04:16] his will be done. That's what we did.

[04:19] Okay. But Candace says no, that's not

[04:22] true. He did in fact message us. Now,

[04:24] Frank was saying it was about a month

[04:25] before he was killed. Erica is now

[04:28] specifically saying the days before he

[04:30] was killed. He wasn't saying that. Frank

[04:32] was saying he said it a month earlier.

[04:34] Um, now remember that intervention, one

[04:36] thing to kind of point out with with

[04:38] what Frank was saying is that that

[04:39] intervention that happened in the

[04:41] Hamptons that that was August August

[04:44] 6th. So that was about a month before

[04:46] Charlie was killed. So he was killed

[04:47] September 10th. August 6th was that

[04:49] intervention. That is when Charlie

[04:51] started to express that he wasn't

[04:53] interested in defending Israel anymore.

[04:55] So the timeline there, you know, it

[04:57] could match up to leftists. It could

[04:59] also match up to, you know, pro

[05:01] pro-Israel Zionists. And that's the

[05:04] groups that people are suspecting,

[05:06] right? Um, here's what Candace has to

[05:08] say.

[05:10] And I can tell you

[05:14] 1,000%

[05:16] that Andrew Kulvette told me the night

[05:19] before Charlie was murdered that Charlie

[05:22] Kirk texted him and said they are going

[05:25] to kill me. Andrew Kovette is the person

[05:27] who received a text message from Charlie

[05:29] Kirk saying they're going to kill me.

[05:31] And I'm not getting that third party. I

[05:33] got that directly from Andrew Kovette.

[05:35] He asked me to keep it off record and I

[05:36] would have kept it off record if Erica

[05:38] did not imply that I lied. Right? So I

[05:41] mean I'm not saying she is saying

[05:43] Candace is lying. I am saying that since

[05:46] I was the one who put it out there,

[05:48] she's implying that I'm that I'm lying

[05:49] and that that's not true. So we have a

[05:52] scenario here where either Andrew

[05:55] Kovette has told an explicit lie or

[05:58] Erica Kirk is telling an explicit lie.

[06:00] It's not up for me to determine who. Um,

[06:02] I didn't receive that text message, but

[06:05] uh, yeah, and I also was told by a

[06:10] person at Turning Point USA, who I'm not

[06:12] going to name because they are one of my

[06:14] sources, that Dan Flood received the

[06:16] same message. So,

[06:20] there you go. I don't know. I I I

[06:22] believe that she has his phone. I also I

[06:25] maybe somebody deleted it, but I don't I

[06:28] don't know why Andrew Kovette 48 hours

[06:30] after Charlie was dead would lie to me.

[06:33] He did not sound like he was lying. Um

[06:35] he sounded very concerned about it. And

[06:37] I I specifically said like who who is

[06:38] they? Like you know like he like he said

[06:40] they're going to kill me and he said I

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[08:48] Okay. So, who's the liar? Is it going to

[08:50] be Candace Owens or is it going to be

[08:53] Erica Kirk? Um,

[08:57] just on its face, it seems like it's

[09:01] perhaps Erica only because you've got

[09:05] multiple people saying that Charlie

[09:07] thought that his life was in danger from

[09:09] Frank who said it right after his death,

[09:12] saying that just a month earlier,

[09:14] Charlie was saying, "They're trying to

[09:16] kill me." And it wasn't just, "Oh, I'm

[09:18] under the gun." You know, under the gun

[09:19] could obviously mean uh I'm stressed

[09:22] out. you know, I'm I'm deadlines. I'm

[09:25] just under the gun right now. Like a lot

[09:26] of us use that term just to say we're

[09:29] busy. But what does it mean specifically

[09:31] when when Charlie says they're trying to

[09:34] kill me? Uh and Frank says, "Do you have

[09:37] security?" Right? I mean, that's not a

[09:39] conversation of, "Oh, I'm so busy. I'm

[09:41] under the gun." That is a different

[09:44] that's that that brings in a different a

[09:46] totally different meaning to being under

[09:48] the gun. So, you've got Frank, you've

[09:50] got Andrew Kulvit who says this, you've

[09:52] got also another person who says this,

[09:55] and then you've got Erica who says,

[09:56] "Well, I have his phone." And none of

[09:59] that was ever said.

[10:02] Um, and you know, and you've got this

[10:04] strange press circuit that Erica's doing

[10:08] going around, and I get it. She's now

[10:10] the CEO of TPUSA, so she kind of, I

[10:12] guess, has to. I mean, if you're going

[10:14] to make yourself the CEO, then you don't

[10:16] have a choice but to go out there uh and

[10:18] and to make the the rounds, the press

[10:20] rounds. But to make the rounds and to be

[10:23] praising Israel so much and to be

[10:25] praising and praising and you know,

[10:26] here's just another example of it. Here

[10:28] she is saying, you know, oh, Charlie, he

[10:31] thought that that Jew hatred was brain

[10:33] rot, which I agree. If you just hate

[10:36] Jews for no reason, but criticizing the

[10:38] state of Israel is not hating Jews or

[10:41] brain rot. it is a legitimate foreign

[10:44] country that we should be allowed to

[10:46] criticize. But here she is, you know,

[10:48] doing this again. The the the

[10:52] placating or the however you want to say

[10:55] it. Charlie always would say very

[10:58] clearly, "Jew hate was brain rot."

[11:01] >> He would always say it.

[11:04] We've been to Israel twice together.

[11:09] And to be able to walk in the place

[11:12] where our Lord walked

[11:15] and see the Bible come to life in

[11:17] technicolor.

[11:20] How could you hate that place?

[11:24] How could you hate the Jewish people?

[11:30] Why? Because you need to fulfill a

[11:34] conspiracy theory. I'm wrapped in people

[11:37] say I'm a part of conspiracy theories

[11:39] all the time. It's sick and it needs to

[11:43] stop. We are human.

[11:46] No one is perfect. No Christian is

[11:49] perfect. No Jew is perfect. No Muslim is

[11:52] perfect.

[11:53] We are broken, sinful humans in need of

[11:57] a Lord and Savior.

[12:00] And that's why it is so important to

[12:02] give your life to the Lord

[12:05] because once you do that and you fully

[12:06] surrender to the Lord, you have no room

[12:08] in your heart for hate. And so, sir, I

[12:11] am so sorry what happened to your

[12:12] daughter. I pray that does not happen

[12:15] and I pray that that is something that

[12:17] we can somehow extinguish in this world.

[12:23] But we are living in enemy occupied

[12:25] territory.

[12:27] And every single day we need to guard

[12:30] ourselves, guard our minds, guard our

[12:32] heart. And the best way to do that is

[12:33] reading God's word. And you cannot

[12:36] separate the Old Testament from the New

[12:38] Testament. You cannot

[12:42] um you know what was really strange? One

[12:45] thing that I found a detail that was

[12:46] very strange about this town hall that

[12:50] just adds to the conspiracy of was this

[12:54] all a setup is that um and I don't have

[12:58] the clip for you but you can look it up.

[13:00] Hunter Kak was the Utah Valley

[13:04] University student who asked Charlie

[13:07] Kirk the last question he was asked and

[13:09] he asked him about the trans shooters or

[13:12] trans, you know, trans um trans

[13:15] shootings. And then Charlie was shot and

[13:18] killed and Hunter Kak was the last

[13:20] person to ask him that question. at this

[13:22] CBS town hall that just happened over

[13:24] the weekend that just aired over the

[13:25] weekend. Hunter Kak was there and he got

[13:28] to ask Erica a question at the town

[13:30] hall. And I just think, you know, how

[13:34] often do you get to ask a question to

[13:37] anybody at any of these events, let

[13:39] alone twice? Like you'd get to ask and

[13:42] you just happen to ask Charlie a

[13:43] question and you ask Erica Kirk a

[13:45] question. Now, his question for Erica

[13:48] was um will you condemn the violent

[13:51] rhetoric of Donald Trump, the most

[13:53] powerful, influential, and influential

[13:55] person on earth? And um but but so he

[13:59] doesn't ask a question that's

[14:02] um she all she says and I again I don't

[14:06] have the clip for you, but I could tell

[14:07] you what transcript was. She says, "I

[14:09] appreciate your question. You know my

[14:10] heart. Why would I ever say go murder

[14:12] people? I understand your sentiment

[14:14] sentiment. I do, but this is much deeper

[14:15] than one person. And uh Kak then said he

[14:20] appreciated Erica's calls for peace and

[14:21] unity. He also said he was horrified

[14:23] that people have cheered about Charlie's

[14:25] murder. And without naming the

[14:26] president, she says that she'll never

[14:29] agree with political violence. Um

[14:33] so but just bizarre that this guy gets

[14:37] to ask a question that he gets into the

[14:39] town hall to begin with. Again, it's

[14:41] just these details. It's like, look, I I

[14:43] don't even get into these events all the

[14:46] time, and I certainly wouldn't have the

[14:48] opportunity to ask these questions.

[14:51] I don't think any of us would. So, why

[14:52] is it that this one guy shows up at both

[14:55] events and gets to ask Charlie a

[14:57] question, his last question, and then

[14:58] now gets to ask Erica a question at this

[15:00] town hall? And why is she doing a town

[15:03] hall with questions and answers while

[15:06] she's a fresh widow? And um I mean, that

[15:08] would just be too devastating, I think.

[15:10] But nonetheless,

[15:12] things just are really the whole thing

[15:15] is just bizarre and strange. And I think

[15:17] the more we see these types of things,

[15:19] we you know, it just makes us more

[15:21] suspicious. It's not quelling suspicion.

[15:22] It's only adding to suspicion actually.

[15:24] It's just very, very bizarre. Um, but

[15:27] you know, the the two women, Candace

[15:29] Owens and Erica Kirk, are going to be

[15:31] sitting down for that uh private

[15:34] meeting. Maybe they're doing that now.

[15:36] It's unclear, but hopefully we'll It'll

[15:39] be interesting to see what comes of

[15:41] that. If there is a consensus, if

[15:44] Candace says, "No, I'm still suspicious

[15:46] and you're not answering my questions in

[15:48] a way that actually is satisfying. Let

[15:51] me see the phone. Let me see the

[15:52] messages. Are is Frank a liar? Is Andrew

[15:54] a liar? Is this other guy a liar? Who's

[15:56] the liar?" I think that's what we all

[15:58] want to know is who's the liar?

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