Candace Owens Exposed Erika Kirk's Stunning Partnership With Charlie Kirk's Known Adversary Brandy Zadrozny

[00:00] Never in a million years did I think

[00:02] TPUSA would open the doors to this woman

[00:05] to assist with this piece. A video, you

[00:08] guys may have seen this going around, a

[00:09] piece that was published by the

[00:11] left-wing MS Now by journalist Brandy

[00:15] Zadrasny.

[00:17] I'm going to show you this, right? Bry's

[00:19] article, which I just want to again

[00:20] point out the absurdity. How is this not

[00:22] defamation per se that they keep going

[00:25] who killed Charlie Kirk? putting or a

[00:28] digital assassin and putting my face on

[00:30] it. Who killed Charlie Kirk? There's

[00:32] only two people in that photo. Charlie

[00:33] Kirk and me. How is that not defamation

[00:36] per se? We know what they're doing and

[00:39] we know who's behind it and she she

[00:41] publishes this piece and just to give

[00:43] everybody a background on who she is.

[00:45] Shortly after Charlie died, this

[00:46] journalist contacted me and it made me

[00:50] physically sick because I knew exactly

[00:51] who she was because she was so vicious

[00:53] and fundamentally dishonest. It was

[00:56] Charlie Charlie and I were very green.

[00:57] We were excited that somebody in the

[00:59] press, I think at the time she was

[01:01] working for NBC, wanted to do a piece on

[01:03] us. We invited her. We were I think we

[01:05] were out in California, went out to

[01:07] dinner with her, had a great day with

[01:08] her, and then she publishes a piece that

[01:11] was just the opposite of the experience

[01:14] we had with her. It was our we a wakeup

[01:16] call to like, oh wow, uh, journalists

[01:18] lie. Their job is to smear us. And she

[01:22] kept up doing that. Throughout the

[01:25] years, I have text messages. I'm so

[01:27] tired of having to tell people the truth

[01:28] about how Charlie Kirk felt about

[01:30] certain people. I have text messages

[01:31] with Don Trump Jr. regarding a different

[01:34] piece regard that Brandy was working on.

[01:36] I have text messages with Tyler Boyer. I

[01:38] have text messages with Charlie and me

[01:39] and Charlie Boy about this woman.

[01:41] Charlie Kirk did not like this woman.

[01:43] Okay?

[01:45] And so it boggles the mind to me that

[01:48] she would have any association at all

[01:51] with Turning Point USA. she reached out

[01:52] to me. I basically barked at her. I

[01:55] literally my reaction was not, "Oh, she

[01:57] must be working with Turning Point USA."

[01:59] It was like, "Obviously, Turning Point

[02:00] USA would not work with this woman in

[02:02] the wake of Charlie's assassination."

[02:04] And lo and behold, I find out that they

[02:06] did work with her. Anyway, I'm just

[02:07] going to run a clip of of her what

[02:09] turned out to be a 45minute episode of

[02:12] MSN Now, a series that they have where

[02:16] she shared my response to her. I'm

[02:17] really proud of it. Take a listen. I

[02:20] first met Candace Owens in 2018. Okay,

[02:23] so first I really appreciate you taking

[02:24] this time. I know this was started on a

[02:27] Twitter battle. I'd come to Stanford

[02:29] University to see her speak with Charlie

[02:31] Kirk. Kirk was just 24 years old then.

[02:33] He'd worked social media on Trump's 2016

[02:36] campaign and was back to building

[02:37] Turning Point USA, the group he'd

[02:39] started four years earlier to fight the

[02:41] left on college campuses and to recruit

[02:43] young Republicans. If you're asking me,

[02:45] do I think the black community has been

[02:47] crippled economically? The answer would

[02:48] be yes. It has been crippled

[02:49] economically by Democrat policies.

[02:51] >> Kirk was crisscrossing the country,

[02:53] owning the libs, and building a digital

[02:55] enterprise on the back of its college

[02:57] debate tapes.

[02:58] >> What have I ever said that's racist?

[02:59] Name one thing.

[02:59] >> You've enabled people to about racism

[03:02] and by enabling people and giving them a

[03:04] platform.

[03:05] >> Like who? Like Candace Owens.

[03:07] >> Exactly.

[03:07] >> Oh, Candace Owens is a racist. Kirk had

[03:09] just hired Candace, technically as

[03:12] Turning Point's director of urban

[03:13] engagement, then promoted to

[03:15] communications manager. But really, she

[03:17] was a sidekick and everything Charlie

[03:19] wasn't. A woman, black, and to Charlie

[03:23] and his roster of old white donors,

[03:24] comparatively cool.

[03:26] >> Met Candace back in November, hired her

[03:27] 5 minutes after I met her. And as they

[03:29] say, the rest is the future.

[03:31] >> Before we go any further, I [music]

[03:32] should note that Candace declined to be

[03:34] interviewed for this video. When I

[03:36] asked, she sent a statement [music]

[03:37] through a rep. She called me slimy and

[03:39] said it made her skin crawl that I would

[03:41] reach out in the wake of Charlie's

[03:42] [music] assassination.

[03:43] >> So proud of you.

[03:44] >> For the record, this is a weird thing to

[03:45] say since this was the text Candace sent

[03:48] after that story [music] published and

[03:50] inconsistent with how Kirk spoke

[03:51] publicly about me.

[03:52] >> And we've dealt with Brady's Adra before

[03:54] in some stories. She's very smart, um, a

[03:56] relatively fair person, but she still

[03:58] has that, you know, pepper in her

[03:59] insults.

[04:00] >> But [music] Candace runs on vibes, and

[04:02] for an audience with a very short memory

[04:04] and attention span, it [music] seems to

[04:06] be working out.

[04:08] She shows an outof context message of be

[04:11] thanking her for after like not

[04:13] including my family members when she was

[04:14] going after them and sending them

[04:15] emails. And then she shows Charlie not

[04:18] complimenting her, just saying she's

[04:20] relatively smart. I'd agree with that.

[04:22] She's relatively smart. We thought that

[04:23] she was a decent person when we sat down

[04:25] with her and then saw that she peppered

[04:27] insults and she kept this up throughout

[04:29] the years. So that was my response to

[04:31] her. I I and genuinely when I sent the

[04:33] response I was so grossed out that she

[04:35] reached out after he was assassinated

[04:36] because I just knew the kind of pieces

[04:38] she would do on Charlie and how Charlie

[04:39] felt about her. Never in a million years

[04:41] did I think TPUSA would open the doors

[04:44] to this woman to assist with this piece.

[04:48] Like never. Especially if you even just

[04:50] look at just her history of what she

[04:53] published immediately in the aftermath

[04:55] of Charlie's death. I also want to

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[05:43] to start saving today. This is just 6

[05:45] days after Charlie died. To give you an

[05:47] idea of who this woman is, she published

[05:49] Charlie Kirk trafficked in conspiracy

[05:52] theories. In death, he became the ma

[05:54] main character in the ultimate one spun

[05:56] by the White House. It's a tactic I

[06:00] imagine Kirk would have approved of.

[06:02] Snarky, mean, soulless, and he had just

[06:06] been publicly assassinated. She thought

[06:08] that it was fine to publish that. And

[06:09] again, like I said, over the years, this

[06:11] that was her entire vibe. This is what

[06:13] she published during the pandemic.

[06:14] Turning Point USA spent the pandemic

[06:16] flouting public health guidelines,

[06:17] sewing distrust in the election, and

[06:19] bringing the so-called culture culture

[06:21] wars around CRT and LGBTQ issues off

[06:24] campus and into the mainstream. And what

[06:26] did it get them? A boatload of money.

[06:30] So, yeah, suffice to say that never in a

[06:32] million years when I penned that

[06:33] response to her could I have fathomemed

[06:34] that Erica Kirk, the dear widow, after

[06:37] Charlie's assassination would open the

[06:39] doors literally to Brandy, who Charlie

[06:41] could not stand. This is only made

[06:43] crazier by the fact that TPS USA is

[06:45] trying to convince audiences in this

[06:46] moment that Charlie was murdered by a

[06:48] radical leftist over transgendered

[06:50] issues. But guess what you guys? Brandy

[06:53] is one of the biggest supporters of

[06:55] transgenderism. This is a real tweet

[06:56] from Brandy regarding trans issues. She

[06:59] wrote, "Spent weeks talking to doctors

[07:01] who treat trans kids, a vulnerable group

[07:04] of small people at ever more risk now as

[07:06] they're being targeted for cheap

[07:08] political points. Most of the reporting

[07:10] will never see the day because people

[07:12] are afraid. It makes me very sad.

[07:17] Oh,

[07:18] and just to really highlight the point

[07:20] here, even amongst people who support

[07:21] transgenderism, the majority of them

[07:23] draw the line at transitioning children,

[07:25] not Brandy. Okay. She also tweeted this,

[07:29] "Doctors providing," and this is her

[07:31] article, "Doctors providing care are

[07:33] under increasing threat from far-right

[07:35] harassment campaigns." Um, she also

[07:38] hyperl another article uh that she

[07:40] wrote, "State lawmakers in Oklahoma

[07:43] holding hospitals COVID money hostage

[07:45] unless they strip away health care for

[07:46] trans kids. Why?

[07:49] Because the Unwable podcast told them

[07:51] to. So, she is radical on the topic of

[07:56] support for transgenderism."

[07:58] Naturally, Erica Kirk and Turning Point

[08:00] USA partnered with her anyway out of

[08:02] what we can only assume is their

[08:04] everinccreasing desperation to smear me

[08:06] and all of those who are researching the

[08:08] many flaws in the Charlie Kirk

[08:10] assassination story. So, I want you to

[08:13] take a listen to Brandy discussing how

[08:15] she was welcomed into their

[08:17] headquarters.

[08:18] I asked Turning Point USA for an

[08:20] interview to find out what they were

[08:22] dealing with and what they saw as the

[08:24] path [music] forward. They declined to

[08:26] go on the record, but they invited me to

[08:27] their Phoenix headquarters where I sat

[08:29] down with Erica and other leadership.

[08:31] [music] They spent hours with me. They

[08:33] answered all my questions. What I saw

[08:36] was an organization [music] struggling,

[08:38] struggling to weather a storm that would

[08:40] have been unthinkable a year ago.

[08:42] Struggling to [music] grieve, struggling

[08:44] to navigate near constant threats and

[08:46] harassment, and wondering [music]

[08:48] each day what false storyline Candace

[08:50] Owens will come up with next. [snorts]

[08:55] It's perfect. And once again, people

[08:57] will blame me for the fact that this

[09:00] backfires and people then recognize that

[09:03] Turning Point USA is in just entirely

[09:05] fraudulent positions that they

[09:07] represent. Why would they welcome her

[09:08] into the headquarters?

[09:10] Wouldn't they be like, "You support

[09:12] transgenderism and Charlie Kirk just got

[09:14] killed by a trans furry and there's no

[09:17] come on in hours." Oh, Candace, you're

[09:20] talking about Candace. that friend of

[09:22] Charlie's. Here's the talking points we

[09:24] want you to share. Yeah, that backfired

[09:27] like a lot. Maybe also because running

[09:30] to the left

[09:32] doesn't actually work after you spent 11

[09:35] months accusing them of murdering

[09:36] Charlie. Like I think I don't think you

[09:37] just like switch teams that quickly and

[09:39] expect them to be sympathetic to you.

[09:41] And um also because of the disturbing

[09:45] points that she makes throughout this

[09:46] piece, I I have to point out the ever

[09:49] decreasing social IQ of Blake Nef. Like

[09:51] I just when we think we get to the

[09:53] bottom of his social IQ, he unlocks

[09:55] another basement. He cannot read a room.

[09:58] Blake cannot read a room. He thought it

[10:01] was a good PR idea. As they were

[10:03] promoting Bry's piece, of course, and

[10:05] not going, "Oh man, [clears throat]

[10:06] maybe we shouldn't do that. Uh we're

[10:08] trying to say that a trans furry killed

[10:10] Charlie." thought it was a good idea to

[10:11] point out one of the darker quotations

[10:14] from her presentation. He tweeted this.

[10:16] Again, this is a quote from from her.

[10:18] Tyler Robinson's arrest might have

[10:20] united a MAGA movement that had been

[10:23] tearing itself apart over the Epstein

[10:25] files and the war in Gaza. It might have

[10:27] provided a common enemy, a focused on

[10:29] the lefty posters who were joking about

[10:32] Kirk's death or Antifa the Trump

[10:34] administration had blamed for Kirk's

[10:36] murder. It might have if not for Candace

[10:40] Owens.

[10:42] That is the literal meme of the

[10:47] Scooby-Doo cartoon villain. And so

[10:49] people published that. Travis wrote this

[10:52] on X. And I would have gotten away with

[10:54] it too if it weren't for you meddling

[10:56] kids. Like how could you not? How could

[10:58] you say that? Really? It's almost like

[11:02] suggesting that Charlie had to die

[11:04] because things were getting crazy. MAGA

[11:07] was upset about the Iranian war and our

[11:09] involvement with Israel, but also

[11:11] Israel's guy Epstein and the files made

[11:13] people dislike Trump. So, we just had

[11:16] Charlie needed to die and our plan was

[11:17] that was going to unite the party

[11:19] against the left and keep them focused

[11:21] on the go slop. But Candace ruined that

[11:24] opportunity. That, my friends, is what

[11:26] you call atrocious

[11:29] PR. I actually loved this woman

[11:32] recapping this and I shared it across

[11:33] ex. This is this is basically the piece

[11:36] in a nutshell. She said, "I've watched

[11:38] Brand Brandy Zadraznney's Who Killed

[11:40] Charlie Kirk so that you don't have to.

[11:42] Here's the short version. If you still

[11:44] have questions, you are the problem.

[11:46] According to the film, you are a

[11:47] grifter, a conspiracy theorist, a

[11:49] Cashion Artist, or someone unfortunate

[11:51] enough to be adjacent to a kombucha

[11:53] brewer, a Kremlin loving loving model,

[11:55] or a far-right lawyer." Now, you might

[11:57] reasonably assume that a film called Who

[11:59] Killed Charlie Kirk would spend a

[12:00] considerable amount of time examining

[12:02] the unresolved questions that have

[12:03] caused millions of people to distrust

[12:04] the official account. But I have

[12:06] unfortunate news. 45 minutes later,

[12:09] we've learned that Candace Owens makes

[12:11] money doing her job. Baron Coleman gets

[12:14] super chats doing his. And John Bray

[12:17] sells kombucha.

[12:19] By the end of Who Killed Charlie Kirk,

[12:22] it feels like a slightly misleading

[12:23] title. Who are all these annoying people

[12:26] who keep asking questions would have

[12:27] been considerably more accurate? We're

[12:30] still asking. Oh, and one more thing.

[12:31] Andrew Kova, I owe you an apology. I

[12:33] previously thought that you were

[12:34] terrible at PR, but watching Brandy

[12:36] spend 45 minutes ridiculing the very

[12:39] people that TPUSA presumably wants to

[12:41] convince us has made me realize that I

[12:45] dramatically underestimated you. You are

[12:47] spectacularly terrible at PR. [laughter]

[12:51] He's like, "It is something how bad he

[12:53] is at PR. It is something to be noticed.

[12:57] A sight to behold is Andrew Kvette and

[13:00] Erica Kirk sitting in there going, "This

[13:01] is going to be good for PR." No, this is

[13:03] going to be great. We're going to team

[13:04] up with a transloving reporter, and

[13:07] we're going to have her call everybody

[13:08] who they should be convincing to join

[13:10] their side a conspiracy theorist or like

[13:13] in support of the Kremlin um or wacky.

[13:16] And that's really going to turn people

[13:18] toward us. They're not going to think

[13:19] that we're total frauds. Who is behind

[13:20] these PR decisions? Is it just Andrew?

[13:23] Is it a crisis PR team? I don't know.

[13:26] But people should probably be fired over

[13:28] it. And they probably won't be

[13:32] [music]