Candace Owens Now Being SUED? — Mitch’s SECRET RECORDING Just Triggered a MELTDOWN

Whoop whoop. Soft claps. It is very late right now, guys. I was going to go to bed. I was like, should I get 7 and 1/2 hours of sleep or should I get 4 and a half? And I was like, I got to go with the 4 and 1/2 because guys, apparently Candace Owens is going to be sued. Now, this is according to Gary from Paramount Tactical. There's this whole thing that just developed right now. So, basically Mitch's secret phone call with Gary that Candace told us was going to come out. Candace actually said she was going to bring that out when she got off break, but apparently there was another creator who got a hold of it and he ended up releasing it on X. Now, um, how that happened, I have no idea, but it just dropped around, I would say, around midnight and I listened to the whole thing. It's an hour and 55 minutes. And I called it. I said I didn't think, and I know a lot of people upset with Valhalla, but I said it didn't sound like a Valhalla thing to do, for him to call up and befriend Mitch. I couldn't see him being as mad as he was on his live stream and then also calling him and befriending him. I was like this like I would be like that would just look so terrible if that were the case. I said that was a Gary thing to do and it was. And it was. But now that it's been released, Gary's pissed. Gary's very, very mad. So Gary just released this. It's like 2 o'clock in the morning right now. Gary just released this. He said, "So Stu has released an illegally recorded phone call. Given that Washington is a twoparty consent state, this is a crime." They also doxed my number. Charges will be pressed. I was asked by Mitch not to record and I agreed. Now, I listened to the whole thing. That didn't happen. Mitch does ask if he's recording, but Mitch doesn't say, "Oh, I don't want you to." Like, he doesn't say whether he wants to or not. And the whole time Mitch is recording. Um, he says, "Uh, I was asked blah blah blah. I" And he says this, this is the big part that I think if it does go to court, this will be the big thing that is contested. He says, "I was certain he was recording." So, it's like if you're certain someone's recording, isn't this in a form giving consent? But let let me just break down the whole story for you before we uh before we pontificate. And he says, "I told him that if he was telling the truth, I'd be his biggest advocate." True. He does say that during the recording. He m he lied multiple times on that call. I don't really know where he lied. maybe talking about people he knew, but everything that they've been This is where it gets really weird cuz the phone call actually shows that Mitch was the one who wanted them to vet him. He actually wanted Vajala to vet him. This is his own words. And he wanted Gary to vet him to actually look into his past and everything. And that whole DD, this is a piece of information that uh it's called the DD214, I believe. And this is information that only Mitch could get released to him and then provide to Gary or Valhalla because a lot of you messaged me saying, "How does Vajala say that he's going to pull up this information? Wouldn't it be illegal?" And I was like, you know, whatever Valhalla has, I'm sure he got it through completely legit uh causes, instances, whatever. Uh I'm like I'm like, this is like just happening now. I'm like, wow, this is nuts. I was tired and all of a sudden I'm up like it's like afternoon right now. But it turns out that they did get it through completely legit ways because Mitch released it to them. Mitch gave it to them. So all the stuff that you've been hearing, this is, you know, I'm sure they could have got some of this somehow, especially like court stuff and things of that nature. I'm sure they could have gotten that, especially if they found his children, found his ex-wives. Um, but the root of it, from what this sounds like in the call, I don't know what Vajala had at this time. I don't know what Gary had at this time. This is December 20th when they have this call. It seems like Mitch was the one who got the ball rolling. It seems like they thought his story was bogus. They thought he sounded bogus and then Mitch got the ball rolling and said, "Hey, if you think I'm bogus, here you go. I'm a special forces guy. Like, you can check me out." Blah, blah, blah. Very weird stuff. Okay, let's get back to Gary here. So Gary, uh, of course, is very upset. Told him he'd be his biggest advocate. He lied multiple times. Uh he was the first person in this investigation that I called. I wanted to hear him first and give him an opportunity to tell his side or and or come clean. This was all before I spoke to any of his ex-wives or arranged children. Now, let me just Okay, let me just finish this because I got something to say here. Uh they claimed it was an hour and 55 minutes between two calls. Uh, the call never the call was never dropped, nor was there any interference or anything else. As you can see, there's 30 minutes missing from the released call. Um, this is weird because let me just make sure. Is he showing anybody's phone number here? No, cuz Gary's number got doxed. And when I show you this conversation, I'm going to make sure that, you know, I don't show Gary's number cuz I think that's not a good thing to have happen. So, there's two phone calls here, right? Um, and then one of them is an hour and 26 minutes. Another one is an is 59 minutes. So, he's saying that there's there's 30 minutes missing, but he's also saying that the call never dropped, but if the call never dropped, there's two calls here. I I don't I don't know. I don't know. So, obviously, something must have happened in between the two calls, right? I mean, if I'm on the phone with you, right, we talk for an hour and a half, you can see it on your phone, then one of us hangs up, we do another call. You know what I mean? Something had to have happened. But what I will say about what he's saying here about coming clean and and you know before he talked to all his exwives and estranged children is as you listen to this call, Mitch is coming clean with with I guess his side of things, the the toxic marriage and not being able to see his kid and or kids I don't know I don't even know how and either are whatever. But he does admit all this. He doesn't act like like as if that's not happening. It's very interesting. And then the thing is, you know, Gary is saying have a chance to come clean, but it's like come clean about what? The only thing in regards to Mitch that there would be to coming clean about would be coming clean as whether you were at Fort Wuka or not. If you were at Fort Wuka or if you weren't at Fort Wuka, come clean. If you didn't see Brian Harpole, come clean. If you didn't see Erica or Kitt, come clean on that. Or the the the congressman as well, Mark. Um, come clean on all of that. But here's the thing. He sits down with Candace. He tells his story. And now Gary's saying, "I gave him an opportunity to come clean." And then this the the the the stories that come out have nothing to do with Fort Wuka and they have everything to do with Mitch the man the man that he was in his marriages as a father. All of that stuff comes up. It just it just doesn't correlate. That's that's what I'm trying to get across. Those two things don't connect. Mitch was on Candace's show to discuss Fort Wuka. every single thing we've seen in terms of videos have been all about his character and who he was as a man, right? So, I don't I don't I don't get that part. But, you know, there's there everything that's happened with Mitch I don't get. I've even had conversations with creators on the phone and I still don't get it. I'm like, why are you so passionate about this? I don't get it. Like, you don't really have to do this. Talk about something else or don't talk about it or like I don't I don't know. It's just very odd. Very odd. Um, then Gary says this. He says, uh, because him and this creator Stew, they're pretty much going at it. It seems like they're going to war. They really don't like each other. You know, me and Gary have had back and forths, but, you know, it's very brief. I think of it as very funny. You know, I ratio Gary. It's like it's it's over in a few seconds, but it seems like him and this Stew guy are really going at it. Now, uh, Stu says, "This is not going to age well." And he's just commenting on one of Gary's videos. And Gary says, "You're not going to age well considering you just released an an illegal phone call that's missing 30 minutes, by the way. Enjoy feeling like you got over for a day. Charges will be pressed. See you in court, hero." So, Gary, of course, you know, only get only get nine likes on this whole thing. You know, it's pretty sad when Gary tries to go at it. You know, he's not really good with the whole comeback thing. Um, and then somebody else says, well, let's just get right to the Candace part because apparently somebody says this. Somebody says, "Press charges and sue them both. If Candace is involved, sue her, too." And Gary says, "Oh, she is. I have the DMs to prove it." Now, I don't know what that means because from the sound of it, when Candace was on her live, she kind of made it clear that she didn't want to speak to Vajala. Um, well, or at least she didn't. And she didn't speak to Gary either. She didn't speak to uh Bix as well. She didn't speak to It It sounds like from what she said, she didn't get to speak to anybody. So, I wonder what DMs he's actually talking about that have her involved. Now, maybe this is somebody saying something in regards to her. I don't know. But he is right here. He is saying she is involved. Oh, she is. And he's going to do something about this. He's very upset that this happened. But I don't get it. He's going after the creator that released it. He says he wants to go after Candace, but he's not going after Mitch because Mitch is the one that did it. So, you think that that would be the first person to go after? I would think that'd be the only person to go after cuz the other person's just a reporter, but I guess you could go after the reporter. And then the other person just who's Candace just has some DMs and you're going to try and link this case to her as well, which I don't doubt. It makes sense. I mean, in reality, who are they trying to silence out of everybody the most? They're trying to silence Candace. That's that's what's going on. So, if there's any legal uh uh consequences to be had, obviously, they're going to point it directly at Candace. Somebody also brought this up. They said, "If you knew he was recording and still spoke, you gave consent, only a shady lawyer would take this case." And I was like, "Huh, that's that's an interesting take, right?" because he did say, "I was certain I was certain that you were recording, right?" Like I I've I've actually had interactions like this as well. I've done a lot of interviews on this channel, a lot. And there have been two people um who wanted me to take interviews down. And I actually had the law on my side um by the fact that the fact that they sat down with me in front of a camera and I actually I always have my weird recording rituals forever. I've been doing this for 10 years. And I would say, "I'm recording." And I would look at this red dot here and I'd say, "I'm recording." It was like a weird thing I would do because I was so scared of not recording. So, because I had them and me on camera and I'm saying, "I'm recording. I'm recording. I'm recording." It was kind of like they couldn't ask me to take it down. They couldn't be like, "Well, I didn't know." And blah blah blah. There's nothing they could do. So, I never took the interviews down. Um, actually, three people, three people who wanted me to take interviews down. Never. never you live in this channel forever now. Um [laughter] anyway, so yeah, apparently he might have g given consent. Now Gary is right away like nope, didn't consent. Now Gary doesn't know what he's talking about. He's like, "Thanks, breaks lawyer. Uh stick to your day job." And then the guy reveals he's like, "Yeah, waste your money and look dumb if you want to." He's like, "I don't have a day job. Retired union lawyer." Hi >> [laughter] >> Oh man, Gary. It's just you never see someone get owned so much. This Gary Gary gets owned left and right. Then Gary just out of nowhere just posts this. He's like, "Oh my god, he called him to get the story." That's how real investigations work, not a tip box filled by conmen and disso disinfo agents. It's actually amazing. He's really really upset about this whole thing. Again, this was posted like 1:00 am around uh you know 1:12 there. It's uh he's mad. He's definitely mad about this whole thing and uh and he's lashing out into the abyss because nobody really cared what he had to say, going to be honest. Uh [laughter] but you know, it is it is good that he got in contact with Mitch. It is. But I have to say, I listened to the whole thing and it felt very devious. I'm going to play some of it for you. Um, it felt very devious in the sense of he was acting very friendly with Mitch, but he knew he knew that he had no friendly no friendly intentions whatsoever. He knew that he was going to go and do what he's done, which is video after video calling Mitch a liar and calling him out, etc., etc. Now, it's not like Mitch is blindsided by this cuz Mitch is like, "Hey, man, like go ahead, like, look at all my stuff. Check me out." He even said at the end of the interview or at the end of the phone call, he's like, "I'm not taking a dime from Candace until you guys vet me out." And what Mitch really meant was, "Check me out. You think I'm not special forces?" I am. You think I don't have this military career? I do. And that's what he was talking about. So again, I haven't watched all Gary's content towards it, but I I see what's going on. I've seen the I've seen little bits here and there, and it just feels so deceptive. It feels so deceptive for him to do what he's done here. So, uh I'm going to play just little bits and pieces here. This one is just to show you that yes, it is Mitch and yes, it is uh Gary on the line. Nelson, >> just a second. Melton M. >> Okay, >> all right. What kind of questions uh you got for me? >> Well, I I'd like to know a little bit more about I'd like to little know a little bit more about your history. You're you're kind of saying that you're, you know, a former SF guy. >> Yeah. >> Um, when did you go to the Q course? >> Oh, back in 19 uh 1991. I can get you the class date probably in a few. >> Okay. Would it be possible for you to look? I if your story checks out, I'm all about it, man. Um, I don't want to, uh, you know, I'm not here to do you dirty or anything like that, but you know, obviously we have a regiment and, uh, you know, we take that stuff very seriously. >> Uhhuh. >> Would it be possible for you to send me your DD214? >> Sure. Uh, you the only thing you haven't done is tell me you haven't told me who you're with. >> Oh, so I'm with Well, I mean, basically like Baja, I have a YouTube channel. Um, Paramount High School. I know they I just talked to Nate yesterday. >> Yeah, he's a good guy, by the way. You know, I'm a fan of his. >> I We're great. We're good friends. And uh Yeah, you know. >> Okay. >> I see. I I see. Yeah. So, you know, if uh you could send me your DD14, you know, and we can verify your story and we can get to the bottom of we all want the truth. >> Sure. >> And you know, that's that's what it's all about. >> I do too. >> Yeah. Yeah. So that's actually what that's what we're all trying to do. Um >> so he really wants to get sused out by these guys. Um that that DD214 is I hope I'm saying that right. That form is again it's a form that if Mitch was deceased only his next of kin uh his spouse would be able to get access to that information. that is not something that Gary or anybody can just get access to, which is why Gary's asking for it. He's saying, "Will you give me this information?" And Mitch is saying, "Yes." So, it seems like, this is what it seems like to me. It seems like Mitch is like, "Well, sus me out and I'll show you that I am who I say I am in regards to uh my I guess mil I I'll say military history uh background." Um, like I am special forces. Check me out. I am one of you guys. I am like I am who I say I am. You can you can see this. And then what Gary did or what ended up happening from all these people making videos about Mitch is that they stumbled on to everything about his background and then saw all this stuff and said, "Whoa, whoa." Like, sure. Okay, whatever. this guy's special forces, whatever, but what about all this stuff that he's caught up in? What about this thing with his ex-wife and this thing with another person and this thing with another woman and this thing with a kid? And then that for them became the story. That's what it seems like. And I'm only doing this because I'm trying to be very charitable to Valhalla because uh I don't like what Gary's doing throughout this video. Now, maybe him and Valhalla are good friends. I wouldn't doubt it, right? They came up together. I'm sure they know each other at the very least. So maybe they are very good friends. But you can tell Mitch really likes Valhalla. And Gary is saying over and over again throughout the whole call like, you know, yeah, we're friends. Cuz he's trying to like find this bond of trust where he's like, yeah, we're friends. Like that guy that you really like that you wanted to get vetted by that you've been trying to send super chats to so you can get your message across to him. I'm friends with that guy. So, you know, you handing off anything to me. It's pretty much the same thing. It's Bajala, man. Don't let people do that with you, man. Don't let people do that with your name, man. And like this, and funny enough, how interesting is it that Mitch is a huge fan of like, think about what you've seen Vajala make about Mitch. Vala does not like Mitch. And Mitch is like, I like that Valhalla. I'm a big fan. Can I watch his videos? There's a point in the There's a point in this whole thing. I'm going to jump over to this next clip. There's a point in this whole thing where um Mitch is in front of his computer and like one of the first videos that pop up is Vala [laughter] where he's doing the whole 30 odd six thing and he's doing like ballistics and stuff. I'm like, "Wow, he actually does like him." Like he's right on his home screen as soon as he turns on YouTube. So, I was like, "Wow, interesting." But yeah, let's hear more. Uh this is this part here that I'm about to play for you. Let me just make sure I have it right here. This is where uh he says he wanted to be featured on uh he Gary wants to feature him on his show. So Gary's actually asking him to be on the show and Gary I guess just didn't do that because I've never seen that video actually come to life. Um and then Gary or sorry then Mitch says he wants to actually be on Vala show and that he tried to message him via super chats and stuff. Let's go. funny to try and give him the tip. >> Super chats. Yeah. >> That I had. I wanted him to vet me. Okay. You tell him that. >> I wanted to go through him period. Um cuz you know, we we both know. >> Well, I you know, uh I'm sure I'll talk to Nate even today, but you know, you're definitely uh I think he has an invite for you to come on his show, and you definitely have an invite to come on my show. So, uh >> Wow. >> I I'm getting invite. Hold on, honey. >> We'd love to fe We'd love to feature you. And uh look, if if your story is is true, you know, this just doing due diligence. >> Oh, yeah. There's people out there. I've I've only got like half the nation in TPUSA now trying to search me down and kill me and dig up all my dirty records and dirty laundry. >> Yeah. No, >> absolutely. >> Yeah. No, the I I only know I never meant for things to blow up like this. No, >> it was just a uh tip >> that I I was just trying to get >> um >> to candid like >> things just weigh on my heart. >> Mhm. We tried to get to Bajala and then we were talking to a friend. I mean, you heard the story. >> We had a friend here. She's a cute little girl. She has her own great. >> She's like a go-getter. She's like, >> she heard what I had to say and I just mentioned to her. I was like, "Yeah, we were we were trying to go through Valhalla and stuff and and you know, we got blown off, whatever. It's really hard to get through to these people cuz >> everybody's busy. >> Yeah. Everybody's got an ego. Um >> Well, everybody's inundated. >> Well, and and just like, you know, >> volume, >> how do you get through four million volume? >> Yeah. The volume of 4 million stories. How do you get through that? >> I mean, you can't It's like luck. Yeah. I just >> No problem. We've had the same problem at the FBI. >> That being said, >> I uh >> Yeah, we mentioned it to her and she's just all like, >> I've got a I've got a message right now. I'm going to message her right now on Instagram and write her an email. He was >> mentioned I looked at you like oh >> you looked at you like okay that's precious [laughter] Marcy. Okay you do that. >> And before we got off the call Candace Owens is calling me. >> Yeah. >> I'm like what the actual you got kidding me. >> But no I tried to tell Candace you don't want to you don't want my story. It's been a it's been a crazy long saga as to why I was at Fort Wuka and um yeah, it's um she kept pulling that thread. She wanted to vet. So, I've gone through this with her. >> Uh I went through this with uh >> who was it? Uh Joe Kent. >> Yeah. >> Great guy, by the way. Uh he's very busy. >> Joe Kent is actually Tulsi Gabbard. Uh the DNI. That's her like top guy. That's her like right-hand man kind of thing. What's interesting about this is that he says that he went through the same thing with Candace. So Candace was vetting him for everything in regards to Fort Wuka, the metadata showing he went there, video showing him getting directions, etc., etc., everything that Candace has brought up. And the vetting, I guess, on the other side of things, uh, with Gary here was towards something completely different. And I think that's where the major split comes is that Candace has been worried about the information because she actually has an investigation going on. I'm going to be honest, Gary has more of a uh an intention to smear going on. So, it seems like he focused on the dirty laundry more than anything. Now, I know that Vajala has a past in terms of like content where, again, I've said this before, he has like a zero tolerance when it comes to to, you know, toxic relationships, you know, you know, toxic relationships. Um, he has a zero tolerance when it comes to like any wrongdoing in that sense by a man. Um, so, so I get where Vajal is at with this because he does that. You can find videos of him doing it, not just with Mitch. He There's other people he's done this with. I've seen it. But Gary Gary was doing this just for the love of the game. It was just for the love of the game. It was just because he just made that relationship with Turning Point and he just made this relationship with Bal and he just randomly stumbled onto this and he's just all about truth and the moral high ground. That's all he's about. And the rest of us are just, you know, we're just nerdwells. Uh we're just dastardly people. Yeah, you remember that for those of you that have been watching? Dastardly. That's what we are to uh to Gary. Uh let me just keep going here. Let's find another clip really quick. Um so this is interesting. I'll give you a little breakdown of this as well because it is two hours. I'm not I'm not doing a a full thing for for two hours, but throughout this whole thing, uh they talk about Joe Kent. You already heard that. Then they just start ping around. And that's what I find so devious. It's like if you don't like the guy or if you have these bad intentions, why are you ping around with them like that? Like I get it. It's a good way to get information. But when and listen, if you don't think the call is being recorded, yeah, sure, that's what you're going to do. But now that the call's recorded and people are are hearing it, it makes it makes him look so deceptive because Nate clearly or sorry, uh uh uh Mitch clearly thinks the the sussing out, the vetting is just going to be showing that he served or whether he didn't serve. If he's been on the units that he's claiming that he's been on, if he knows the guys that he's claiming that he knows, that's what he thinks is going on. You know, he even mentions, "Oh, we got all these people trying to air out my dirty laundry and stuff." He doesn't know that Gary is exactly one of those people trying to do this. He has no idea. Ah, man. It's like, at least be upfront. At least be upfront, man. Anyway, let's go to 24 minutes. Gary reveals that he's had similar situations. Like, they start relating to each other, you know? I just h you know, I I get it. You got I guess you gotta do things like that, but do you you know what I mean? It's like you I can say, well, you got to do what you got to do, but do you do you have to do that? I don't know. Here, let's play this. >> And I called him out in public for it out out there on the page. And in retaliation, they they the admins decided to kick me out. Yeah, screw them. Got to love our buddies sometimes, you know. Um, but yeah, there was nothing to any of the charges. They were all dropped. Um, that didn't stop them from telling my son that I committed in jail and I'm dead and therefore they put him on a protective order. Um, they haven't let me see my son since. And uh they they're not going to let me see him until I plead guilty >> to uh the allegations. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> how long how long has that been, Mitch? Two and a half years. >> Two and a half. >> Wow. >> Two and a half years. >> Wow. >> How old is your son? >> How old is your son? >> He's 13. >> 13. >> 13. Wow. Yeah. That's >> I'll give you all the records you reported. >> Yeah. I know. It's unbelievable. It's a crazy story, isn't it? I know. I'm aware. I try to tell. Oh, I mean I I you know, knowing how knowing how women are and knowing how No offense, Amy, >> no, I not take No, those kind of women are absolutely they give women a bad name. Like that's what makes me so mad. Like how can you do this to another person? I mean, I went through a divorce and I was like >> the complete opposite, you >> know. Well, just the way they weaponized >> the way they weaponized kids against you. >> Yeah. Absolutely. It's so wrong. Yeah. I Yeah. I >> and then how the the justice system is set up >> in the against the the father and the man involved. It's just uh you know again I went I went through a very >> not quite to that extent but you know to where I was getting divorced and then >> I was actually in the Q course when I was getting divorced and then kind of the same thing was like they were calling my command saying I wasn't paying child support every day. I'd have to go in like once a week and show them documents. Look, I've paid every sing matter of fact, I was paying more than was requested of me. >> Wow. And then on top of that, >> let me get my shot. And then >> don't know anybody like >> and then on top of that, you know, when the divorce finalized, uh, the courts the the judge said, "Hey, look, because he's in the military and, you know, at the time I was deploying constantly to Iraq, Afghanistan, >> it's like, hey, we're not going to set up we're not going to set up um um, you know, uh, child visitation on a schedule." It's like when he's when he has leave, you're going to give him the kids. And so >> when I uh would get back from deployment uh and I'd actually they lived in Texas at the time, so I'd fly to Texas to go to get >> and and then what she would do is she would hide the kids from me the entire time I was on leave and would I couldn't find the kids. She'd move them off to like >> she'd move them around from and I was traveling like trying to go to like her family's houses, everywhere I knew, she'd shovel them around. >> You trying to do that? Let me guess. Um, if you did catch, >> she called the cops on me. >> Yep. >> Damn, man. That sucks. That really sucks, you know, just to hear that. But also, it really sucks because it's like you're connecting with the guy, but you know what your intentions are, you know? Like at this point, you given everything we've seen Gary make, you can you can kind of summize that his intentions are not to be like, "Hey, listen, Turning Point, you have a lot of explaining to do. You can look at his the videos he's made just like you can look at my videos. You think the next video I'm going to make is like Candace Owens is wrong about everything. Like, do you think that's the next one coming? Like, no, that's not the next one coming. You can you can look at my videos and be like, it's probably not the route he's going to take. You can do that with Gary as well. So, you know that as he's saying this stuff and very sad. And if Gary, if you see this, I'm sorry that you had to go through that. This stuff's terrible. Absolutely terrible. I'm so thankful for my wife, man. I'm so thankful for my marriage that it's good and we're on the same page. Um, it's just heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. I I'm out of the room where my kid is for a couple hours. I had I had to go I'm like I'm buying like a home gym. I had to go down the street. I had to go like drive for like an hour and a half and I'm already missing the kid. Like I couldn't imagine going through that. [snorts] Oh man. But you could tell like this guy, this is where the deception comes in because you know what you're going to do. You're connecting with this guy. You're talking with this guy, but you know what you're going to go and do after. I just I I don't know, man. Something about that is just like gh just rubs me the wrong way. I I don't know. I don't know what to say. Then then all of a sudden throughout this whole thing, um I'm just going to I'm going to call it Mortal Kombat Ultra. Gary starts talking about Mortal Kombat Ultra in regards to the Charlie Kirk case. And I'm like, "What?" And he starts talking about how it never went away and how it's a real thing. And he he even says he has some kind of evidence that it's been perfected. And I was like, "What?" I'm like, "Where is this guy? Where is that video? Gary, make that video ASAP, man." So he starts talking about that again. Again, if you for for those of us that are a little you're not catching on here. Okay. Mortal. What's the first letter? Combat spelled with a K. Ultra. Okay. Just Okay. All right. You picking it up what I'm putting down here. Uh so he starts talking about that again. They're like connecting. It's it's very odd to be to be doing this, I think. I mean, uh, at least at least if I if I did this with somebody, I think I always connect with people. I like connecting with people, but I would at least be like, I don't agree with you. I don't agree with you, and I don't believe you, and I think you weren't at Fort Wuka, and I, you know what I mean? And I'd be like, and that's what I'm here to disprove. That's why I'm questioning you. You know, at least let the guy know where you really stand, man. You're making him, you're drawing him in with this false sense of security. So, he starts talking about uh Mortal Kombat Ultra. Then they start uh making fun of Valhalla. I'll play I'll play a little bit of them talking about Valhalla. I won't play the part where they they're like making fun of him. Well, it's it's just Mitch. Mitch Mitch Mitch starts making fun of him in a very playful way. It's not like anything too harsh. It's like very playful. But uh yeah, let's play this. >> I think that's going to be the book name. >> Uhhuh. Yeah. So, um, >> but yeah, man. No, I I'd love to have you on. Uh, I I thoroughly enjoy talking to you. Uh, it puts my mind to ease. Um, yeah. And >> no, every time I hear special forces get online, the first thing I'm doing is I'm looking up Truthf Fire Digits, asking people, "We know this guy. Is he one of us?" Yeah. I I've done the whole Stolen Valley thing. Guardians, the Green Beret. I've given them people. Yep. Um I totally get it. I also if you're going to talk to Nate, tell him [clears throat] no harm, no foul. I mean, my misses, on the other hand, she's a little bit pissed at the guy. Um, [laughter] you know, I I wouldn't have him turn his back on her just yet, but uh she'll get over it in time. >> Nate's Nate's again, you you know how our people are. >> Yeah. We're all going to be extremely skeptical until we're not. And you know, quite frankly, that's a a reasonable approach. We we know the last thing that we want is people within our own regiment >> or people with outside of our regiment. >> And I'll tell you within the regiment, oh, I'm a third rail because I am a third rail. I'll tell you what, there's there's guys there. I I uh how do you say it? Inconvenient truth bear. I've just always been that way. I'm not going to lie for anybody. Um, and that unfortunately uh there's a lot of guys especially in the military who are yes men. >> Yeah, I don't [snorts] get that. >> Yeah, I ain't good with them. >> So, they're like connecting, man. Throughout this phone, like watch, you're going to like I'm reposting it like you're going to listen to some of it at least. You're going to see they're they're connecting, man. And uh I just don't know how I feel about that. But, you know, uh I have this thing where I I listen to conversations and I'm going to listen to it again soon. And uh yeah, so yeah, they make fun of of uh Vajala a little bit [laughter] in a very playful way. Man, I'm so glad Vajala is not the one that called. I He even messaged me and he was like, "Hey, I'm not the person who called him. I did not call Mitch." And I was like, "Oh man, thank God. Thank god Gary can handle this kind of thing. Gary's been messing up all week, you know. Just just add it to another thing with Gary. It's It's fine. Gary can Gary Gary's fine doing this type of stuff. But I I I I didn't want it to be Vajala. I knew it. I said it was a Gary type of thing, and it was. What do we have here next? We're going to cover a little bit of just Gary saying how much of a pleasure it was talking with Mitch. those documents. >> You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna give him a little bit of ras, but no, I I would be proud to speak with him or anybody else. We got to let >> SF What do you do? >> What do you do? >> Well, listen, miss man, that was a real pleasure to talk to you. Like I said, >> yeah, you got another story we can't tell online, otherwise you're going to get yourself cancelled. Sorry. [laughter] >> I know you get yourself on what are they called? and change a word. >> Gary, no, it's been good talking to you, too. Thank you for reaching out. You tell Nate. Um, >> look at those documents. >> No, I'm I'm gonna give him a little bit of, but no, [laughter] I I would be proud to speak with them or anybody else. We got to let Candace do her thing though first. There's important stuff coming out. You You do understand the implications, right? >> Oh, I understand the implications. It's It's quite big. Yeah, it was um it was just I don't know what else to say. It was just u >> wrong place, wrong time. >> Um >> or right place, right time. >> Depending how you look at it. >> And you know, you and I, we can look around the room and know which veterans are a little have a little bit different sheen even if they're in civilian clothing. These people stuck out. You know, that that woman had my ex-wife's eyes. They're really creepy. So, um I I didn't mean for this this I meant for this just be a tip. Hey, you might want to check it out and see this. >> Yeah. Where these people were the day before because I think they were there. I had no idea Miss Candace was going to go ahead and blurt out my whole life story that I tried to get to her in about the same amount of times I've been talking to you. And um yeah, I mean so far there's there's no uh [laughter] it's been real quiet, so uh we're happy for that, I guess. >> Yeah. Hasn't gotten me a cup of coffee yet. >> Um >> well, like I said, man, like you know, you're right. What matters is the proof. And if >> I could make a mistake >> every everything that we think is true with this like it has to get out and you know yeah that's that's that's what it comes down to and that's what I for this to begin with. >> I want to know what really happened. Um >> you know at the end of the day that's all that matters >> man and that was not the focus. But I mean, at least at that point, you can be like, "Listen, did you actually see anybody? Did you actually see Erica? Like, do you really think that, man? Like, come on. Why would they even be there?" Like, no push back, right? And it's just I don't know. I just I find it so interesting because I'm really not like that. If I don't like somebody, I don't know how everybody else is. If I don't like somebody, they'll they'll know it. I I can be nice, but I'll say something. or if I think that they're wrong about something, you know, I'll be like, you know, I'll just say it. I don't know. I've I've kind of just always been like that. The whole like talking to somebody really nice when I actually think something else about them, it's just I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't hide it. I just can't hide it. I mean, that's why I got this tattoo on my hand because I'm like, I just can't hide things. I'm like, I don't want my bu me and my buddy got these type of tattoos at the same time. We were in Hawaii. We got them at the same time. Uh or no, I got this one. I actually have a bigger one. So, I got this one. And he got his on like his ankle, like his ankle on his foot. And I'm like, he's like, I got to hide it. I'm like, I'm not hiding nothing. I'm like, put it on my hands. I'm like, put it on my knuckles if you can. I'm like, let's do this. I was like, listen, if I didn't have my my now wife at the time, I might have got it on my neck, man. I might have got a little might have got a little mushroom right here on on my forehead. You know what I mean? I'm just like that. Anyway, let's keep going. >> Yeah. >> Kind of weird. >> Gary, get out of here. >> Thank you so much. >> I really appreciate that. I appreciate you spending the time with me and uh you know, like I said, I'll be your biggest advocate. >> I'll shoot you off documents. How many documents you want? What do you want? >> You know, you're getting DDT14. If you want to throw anything else in there, you're welcome to for additional benefits. Um, >> you know, whatever you feel comfortable with. I'm not going to ind you no matter what. I'm like, "Hey, this guy's a complete liar." >> I'm not going to put your information out there. I'm not >> Yeah, I'd appreciate I mean, I've already had my stuff like >> it's been >> my house been ransacked, my stuff's been stolen, and the one thing that they were after is the one folder I have. The only reason they didn't, >> you know, it's still going on here. Um Mitch, uh they're still going back and forth. This stew guy and Gary, they're still going back and forth. Uh yo, let me just read it here. So, he puts out that message, right? Where this one here, just make sure he puts out this message and now this guy just commented. He said, "Extortion is a far worse crime." And then Paramount says, "Extortion. Good luck with that. You mean like you and Candace who prove your in who's Candace's prove your innocence or or else? Uh you committed a crime and doxed my number. Candace had you do it so she wouldn't take the heat. You were used. Sad. So they're still going at it. [laughter] Man, this is wild. Wild to see this unfold. I swear I just finished making a thumbnail for another video that I guess you guys are going to see on Sunday instead. And I looked at my phone and I went, "Oh man, now I got to make this video." I'm like, "I got to make it. I got I I just have no choice." Right? So now another phone call happens. Right? This is where he says that there wasn't another phone call. This is where Gary says there wasn't another phone call, but apparently there was. I don't know if it dropped or if they cut out parts. I don't know. You know, I'm not going to just sit here and give Mitch the benefit of the doubt. I don't know about either of these guys, honestly. I see Gary doing some deceptive stuff. You're hearing a whole bunch of stuff about Mitch. You know, I don't I don't know who to believe, but let's just hear this. >> Hey, Mitch. >> Hey. >> Hey. I was uh on a phone call, but you were texting me, but I figured I'd just call you talk as opposed to texting over Signal or anything else, but Yeah, you know, I have definitely been, you know, an outspoken critic of Candace and not even so much Candace. Where that really started was when this whole thing with with Charlie happened, we were flooded with uh everything from the palm gun to camera gun to I don't know how much you you've come up with that. Have you seen all that stuff? >> Yeah, some of that stuff. I think uh I think the latest theory is something about uh >> what what's that guy called? Baron Coleman. >> Yeah. >> Shout out. >> Yeah. Something about the fragments and and I I don't know. I I don't have any opinion on that stuff really. I I mean I could >> Shout out to Baron. They're talking about the fragments in the back of the uh SUV. That's actually, so you're seeing this video now. That's what the next video is about because Baron and Candace got my my brain going from Candace showing that picture to Baron expanding on what it was really all about. It really triggered something in my mind where I had a realization as to what was going on that faithful day. So, you guys will see that. That'll just be a a quick quick little video. But, uh, look at that. Baron's getting watched by everybody, man. Look at him. You know, Mitch Mitch is watching Baron. Isn't that interesting? Let's go on to another. So, now should I just go? Yeah, let's just go here. So, now it's like they're boys. They're basically boys, right? Um, so I'm just going to show you guys at an hour 25 minutes. Yeah, we'll we'll start here. So now they're just talking about uh Tyler Robinson's parents turning him in and they're kind of just going back and forth and it's very interesting. Listen to this. >> Wow. Um the ability for them to sit at a computer and want to just narrate stuff is incredible and not get up off of and go do stuff and I don't know maybe investigate facts if you're you know like I don't want to convince you one way or another. I've witnessed this with my own eyes that just >> He's talking about the bureau right now. He's talking about the bureau and people people in the gov. >> No, I I 100% agree with you like on that. Like we we they can create any narrative they want. >> We agree on that. >> A lot of times they create narrative so that they don't have to get up out of the damn chair. >> Agreed. That's why to me the the most compelling port portion of this that makes it more likely that Tyler Robinson is indeed guilty >> is that his parents turned him in. >> Uh that's actually been debated. They don't have that evidence. >> I don't know if you've caught that or not. >> I I know it's been debated. >> Yeah. >> I don't know that there's there's because here's the thing. Let's say that your son was being put up on death penalty charges, right? >> And and then they release a document saying that you turned them in and basically part of your testimony as a father is the reason that they're charging him. >> Yeah. Would would there be anything that would stop you from getting in front of a camera and saying these people are trying to railroad my son to a death bone case? >> And I'm here to tell you, you are barking up the wrong tree. I actually have a real case example of that. >> So, he gets into this long story. I'm going to I'm going to go past it, but he literally has a story where he's pretty much debunking what what Gary's saying. It's just this long long roundabout sad story about a father and his kid. But yeah, it's basically like, hey, would anything stop you from actually, you know, speaking up for your kid and admitting what happened and blah blah blah. And and he has a real world example. If you want to hear that, that's an hour and 26 minutes. Um, but let's move on here. They just talk about it a little bit more. Again, these guys are boys at this point. They're friends. They're having a good time. They're friends. >> Caused him tremendous amount of pain. We lost We lost a validictorian SF medic. So now you're telling me, you know, would they would they come up with something? Would they come up with a lie? Would they say would a prosecutorial team lie to the public? >> I I'm not disagreeing with you on that. >> Oh, yeah, they would. >> I've had it happen to me here. believe that they would. What I'm saying is is the parents if the parents if they're putting things in those charging documents that they're basically using the parents testimony, which they do, >> as evidence against Tyler Robinson, >> what I'm saying is that the parents, >> the fact that they >> What would stop them from going out? I'll tell you exactly what it is. the attorneys the attorneys would tell the parents to shut up. Don't fight it. We'll fight it in court. We promise. >> Guarantee it. >> All of that's possible. I I I don't disagree with that. >> Mhm. >> What I'm saying is is that when it comes to the court case, if that is true, then we get the parents up on because it's going to happen. >> If the parents get up on the stand and confirm and deny that the case is going to fall apart. If if if if this was all a a lie >> based on your opinion right there, just that alone, that would make the case fall. I I get you. And I I think that >> you know what? If that holds up and all of that's true and these texts and everything else, hey, wow. Okay. If that's what really proves it, fantastic. Okay. We got the guy. >> By the way, that doesn't that doesn't prove that this isn't a larger conspiracy. This is one of the things that I've said from the beginning and and me and N >> still don't explain what I saw down in [laughter] it doesn't explain what I saw the day before. >> That's and that's what we need to figure out and that is exactly why I contacted you because this is a critical piece. It's not about debunking you. It's about hey is this indeed true? >> Am I accurate? >> Do I have good eyesight? Can I >> It's not about debunking you. Wow. Wow. That's what he has to say. It's not about debunking you, Mitch. No. No. No. That's why this is a critical piece. I've never heard him say that before. Oh man. And I mean maybe I need to dial into the show a little bit more, but I have never heard him bring up anything like that before where he is saying that it's a critical piece Mitch being at Fort Wuka. I thought that it didn't matter at all if Mitch was at Fort Wuka. I thought that it didn't matter whatsoever if he was. That's what I thought. That's what I was told. Guess it's a little different for Gary. Oh man. See, this is what I mean. This is like the thing that looks deceptive. You know, again, I don't know the guy's character. I don't know the guy. You know, I've had interactions with him on X. That's it. That's the only way I know. I've never seen him face to face. But come on, you're talking like that. It's just it just it just rubs me the wrong way. You know, the the what what does Candace say? The vibes are not vibing. The vibes are not vibing. Look, we're at 52 minutes. That's a little too long. Let's go to the last part here. Uh 1 hour 39 minutes uh where Mitch schools Gary on the official narrative. Oh yeah, I think this is the part that I'm I'm talking uh where he starts talking about the magic bullets and how silly it all is. Here, let's get into that. It's very interesting. Again, they're just boys right now. They're boys. Would have never thought they're just friends at this point. They're just friends having a phone call. I don't want to necessarily be a conspiracy theorist. I want to you and I both want to shoot things down the middle. The only thing I find weird about every single incident since JFK to include uh the one that you brought up there with um Martin Luther King. So JFK, Martin King, Ronald Reagan, President and now Charlie Kirk and there's probably a few more in there. Every single time it's a lone shooter and magic bullets. Every time the FBI gets involved, whatever section that is, there's some old guy sitting up there and it seems like he is that that mechanic in the thing who says it's a broken cylinder head and you got to replace the engine every time. Well, somebody at the FBI, they've got this narrative where it's lone shooter magic bullets. Lone shooter magic bullets. and you you would have a fantastic point and maybe I can give you give you advice for your show if if I could be so bold. >> Be bold. Do it. >> Go repeat the findings. Go repeat the magic bullet. Go get a 30 odd six, get on a roof, shoot it from that angle, and have it lodge in the neck. You repeat that, then you got something. But we're going to we're absolutely going to and here's here's the problem with that or the challenge with that is right now what we what I need is I need to know what the ammo is when we get and it's probably going to be we're have to wait till the trial because there's literally over a thousand variations. I have like 20 different types of 306 ammo down in my basement right now that I've ordered. >> Yeah, you stock that up. Yeah. Yeah. Go. I mean, when I see if I see somebody, you know, cuz I've seen Valhalla get out there. I've seen some of these other guys do their stuff and I was really proud that somebody actually did some ballistics. You know, we get to see it, right? >> And a 30 six completely just, you know, it does exactly what I've seen it do in the past and what every hunter has seen do in the past. Yeah. Every once in a while there's a one-off. But why is it every time there's an assassination, why is it that is the time that we got this uh lone shooter magic bullet stuff oneoff things going on that to me it doesn't uh instill confidence in me? >> No, look look there's there's nothing just like it talked about. There's nothing what we're talking about is atypical results. >> Atypical. Yeah. It's weird >> with without a doubt. And I'm >> it's so funny that this conversation's happening, but you know what it shows about Gary? You know, he claims he doesn't know he's being recorded at this point in time, right? And he's not on the payroll. You know, if there's a payroll to be had, it's when he's doing his videos. And he's still saying the same stuff, which, you know, there's some there's some uh continuity. There's some some congruency with Gary. It shows that maybe he's not on the payroll. Maybe he's just not that smart, you know? And I think that's much better. I think it's much better that we figure out that he's just not that smart. It's not that he lacks integrity. It's that he lacks brain cells. That that in my opinion is a better thing. I'm very happy. I'm very happy to to [laughter] I'm I'm I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Gary, don't uh don't bring any of that uh that ammo that you're stocking up in the basement with. Uh don't bring any of that my way. Uh [laughter] but uh yeah, very interesting stuff, man. So, you know, very deceptive on his part. I have to be honest. I mean, I always try to be charitable with all these guys with all this stuff that I talk about, but it seems very deceptive. But at the same time, he does say like, "Hey, listen, you know, Vala's skeptical." And Valhalla was beyond skeptical. I mean, I think we all know that Vajala did not like this, uh, Mitch character. Not one bit. So, uh, at least he was honest there. But I just think the whole thing of like, hey, we're just calling and just having these conversations and lulling him into this false sense of security. In my mind, that's just I don't know, man. Like, if you really don't believe him, you just keep it straight to the conversation. Hey, Mitch, have you seen Brian? Brian Harpole. You claim that you seed him. Bring up the the alibi that Brian has produced. Hey, this this is actually what they're saying. I mean, he has contact with TPUSA, so he'd be able to pro provide all this stuff. They have alibis. What do you say to that? Uh, these people are innocent people and you're bringing them into this. Do you know the implications of what you're doing? Like, you know what I mean? Like, just handle it like the handsome Caitlyn Collins of CNN. Hand handle it like that. But you're just you're acting like you guys are friends, man. I just think it's so weird. This is the last thing I want to be in the middle of. This this whole thing was the last thing. Um, at the same time, I can't, um, yeah, I'm not going to lie for nobody. No offense, I've lost too much my life. There ain't nothing you can pay me. >> And as far as like what I'm going to put this, so in case you're taking notes, I ain't taking a damn scent from Canons. I my heart goes out like >> I am so humbled by the support she she put out there that she's intending to do a fundraiser for me. And from what I hear that there there's an account building and I'm and until you guys vet the go ahead and air my dirty laundry and let me defend it whatever. I don't plan to take a stand from this all. I want I want justice for me and my son. I've told Candace Owens this. That's what I was seeking when I went down there. Um this is all a distraction. It is a It has sucked all the air out of the room and um I hope we get past it. I hope you guys do find all the answers. Uh what I can say is there ain't a You can't pay me a dollar to lie. I I know what I saw. I I think I do. And I'm typically pretty damn good at that stuff. And it's unfortunately not a gift. It's It's a curse as well. as you get you're starting to see. So, >> well, I think I I think I think Mitch, you and I are on the same page and like I said, no matter what, I'm not gonna do you dirty. Definitely not dox you or anything crazy like that. Um, >> yeah, you came at me a little bit hard on there. I saw a little bit of it, but you know, again, >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. No, I did. I you know, >> no, I'm an I'm an SF guy that's sort of >> disconnected from SF and you're like, the hell I ain't heard of this guy before. Yeah, I totally get it. >> Yeah. >> Yes. No. >> And and that's why I wanted to reach out to you personally. >> I'm glad you did. >> And and you know, I mean, that's I think that's the right thing to do. And so, like I said, man, you know, we're everything checks out, you're not going to have a bigger advocate than me and Nate, for sure. Promise you. >> I appreciate that. >> So, and here's the last thing. It seems like Gary is speaking for him and Nate, which, you know, for for Vala, I don't like that. I don't like that Gary is speaking for him on this whole thing. He's like he's he's saying you're not gonna have a bigger advocate than me and Nate. It's like leave him out of it, right? But I guess you don't know that it's being recorded. So you say although you were certain it was being recorded. So it's uh it's it's a whole thing, man. And the whole thing that I noticed throughout this is that Mitch seems to want to be vetted. He likes the idea of it. He's handing over information willingly that gets everybody the rest of the story that they that they've been uh letting us all know about, you know, the exes and the children and all this stuff. So, there's that, but then at the end of it, you you hear him. It it kind of it kind of paints Mitch as this person who is it's not like he's an angel, but he's definitely the guy who's like, "Check it all out, man. and like I'm I'm glad you're doing this. Thank you. You're a little hard on me. I saw that. But it's fine. And then you see the videos that are being made about him. Like you can go check out Gary's videos. I mean, I don't want to throw anybody over to Gary's channel. I don't want to do that. But it's it's definitely not the same vibe. It's that's why I say it sounds so deceptive. It sounds even more deceptive when you hear Mitch because then Mitch is like, "Yeah, check it all out." Yeah, let me know. And then the videos are like this guy, let me tell you about Gary's sitting there with bal tones sitting there and just being like this guy. Oh, tell me a little bit about this guy. Oh, well, you know, oh man, all the the the women and this and that. It's like I don't know, man. I don't know. It's it's it's getting it's getting very dirty on both sides of that. Um, Mitch's past seems dirty, seems bad, and the way that that information was taken, gotten, that seems pretty dirty, too. That seems pretty uh, and listen, if you're one of the creators and you didn't get the information this way, no, don't bother contacting me. I don't care. I don't care. I'm a fly on the wall. That's what I do. Look what happens to all the people who got too emotionally invested. And then it's just me and all you guys and we're just having a good time. We're having a laugh. We're having laughs in the morning. That's what we do here. Everybody else is like, "Let me tell you something. How much you know how many things I got here? Can I just tell you something about this guy right here?" What? You make videos, bro. Relax. Don't build yourself up into something that you're I'm the arbiter of truth and justice and only I can bring the truth into justice here. Don't build yourself up into that. Little little listen. I see Baron. I've seen you comment on my videos. Baron, don't don't let them suck. You know what I mean? Just we just we just follow what we're going to follow. Some people are getting too sucked in. You know, they're seeing red when they see Mitch. Don't get sucked in, man. We're flies on the wall. We're just covering stuff. I don't build myself up in that anything bigger. Okay. I don't know. Some people are acting like they want to like run a newsroom, like they want to like make the next Vice Media. Okay. Have fun. Have a good time. That'll be a blast. Oh my gosh. [snorts] Anyway, guys, I'm just kidding around. But, uh, that's what I wanted to bring you guys. We're at an hour and four minutes. I'm going to cut this, uh, short, I guess. But, uh, good morning to everybody. It is, uh, 4:14 for me right now. So, uh, I'll get this episode up for you guys as soon as I can. And, uh, hope you guys enjoy it. Anyways, have a good weekend. I will see you guys tomorrow. I'm out of here.