Charlie Kirk Confronts Liberal Student on Hypocrisy Claims About Trump and Disabled People at ISU

[00:00] I'm glad that I'm able to welcome you to

[00:02] ISU Charlie. Thank you for coming out.

[00:07] So, I'll start off by saying I am a

[00:09] liberal. I that's just who I am. That's

[00:11] what I believe. And I spent a lot of

[00:14] time studying conservative and

[00:15] Republican values and it's just not for

[00:17] me. But I understand where it comes

[00:19] from. Uh my my major problem is the what

[00:22] I feel is blatant hypocrisy and

[00:25] contradictions. Uh specifically from you

[00:27] yourself. Uh, for example, uh, a couple

[00:30] weeks ago, uh, Congresswoman Jasmine

[00:32] Crockett called Governor Abbott Governor

[00:34] Hot Wheels. Uh, and yeah, I wasn't a fan

[00:38] of that. I didn't agree with that. And

[00:40] obviously, you didn't either. You went

[00:41] on X. You said, "This woman is trash."

[00:46] But I I wouldn't I would never take it

[00:48] that far. But on November 24th, 2015,

[00:51] Donald Trump mocked a disabled reporter,

[00:53] Serge Kabolski. Uh, he flailed his arms,

[00:56] made fun of his voice, and made fun of

[00:57] his face. And I I looked up and down

[00:59] your ex account. I couldn't find a

[01:00] single tweet calling him trash for that.

[01:03] Uh, you called Elon Musk a genius. I

[01:05] looked at his ex account. He uses what's

[01:07] considered the Rword. Uh, over 14 times

[01:10] in just the year 2024 alone. He actually

[01:12] posted it again this morning. Uh,

[01:15] talking about the trade advisor guy. And

[01:17] again, you just you worship that guy.

[01:19] So, I want to know why you hold the left

[01:20] and Democrats to different standards

[01:22] than you do the right and Republicans.

[01:24] Well, well, first, I worship Jesus

[01:25] Christ. I don't worship Trump or anyone,

[01:27] but yeah, I mean, the Yeah, fair fair

[01:29] enough. I understand what you're saying.

[01:31] Um, there's a lot to unpack there. So,

[01:34] first, what does your shirt say? I'm

[01:35] curious. Oh, it says uh rigged election

[01:37] called the Blue Steel. Shout out Shout

[01:39] out Zoolander. Oh, okay. Got it. Uh, was

[01:43] the last election rigged? I'm I'm

[01:44] curious. This 2024? Yeah. No. Oh, okay.

[01:47] Got it. So, that fair enough. Um, so

[01:50] what you're asking, first of all, Trump

[01:52] never mocked a New York Times reporter.

[01:53] It's just been disproven like 10 times.

[01:55] The reporter himself even said that

[01:56] Trump didn't do that. But yeah, I mean

[01:59] there's you're trying to find hypocrisy

[02:01] because Jasmine Crockett made fun of the

[02:03] fact that the governor of Texas can't

[02:05] walk. That is trash by the way. A tree

[02:08] fell on this guy while he was going for

[02:09] a jog and now he's in a wheelchair and

[02:11] she makes fun of that. I think that's

[02:12] trashy behavior. Right. Yeah, it is. And

[02:14] I agreed with you. But uh he he did mock

[02:16] the reporter. Anybody could go to TikTok

[02:18] right now. It's on video. This has been

[02:20] literally It was on every It was on

[02:22] every major media news outlet. You could

[02:24] you can look it up. This was 10 years

[02:25] old. I mean, you were like eight when

[02:27] this happened, probably, right?

[02:29] Uh, I think I was nine. Just answer the

[02:31] question, bro. Come on. Yeah, he did. He

[02:33] didn't mock the reporter. The reporter

[02:35] himself came out and said that Donald

[02:36] Trump was not mocking me. Okay, you can

[02:38] see the video. Again, this again, this

[02:40] is like a decade old hoax. And by the

[02:42] way, do you got anything more recent

[02:44] that we can talk about than like

[02:45] something that Trump said at a rally in

[02:47] 2015, a decade ago? Okay. Okay. Over the

[02:49] past couple of years, uh, Donald Trump

[02:51] went on his truth social and he would

[02:52] always mock Joe Biden's stutter. Uh, Joe

[02:55] Biden had like he had like he had a

[02:57] stutter. Like that was just Do you think

[02:59] Joe Biden was all mentally there

[03:01] throughout his presidency? No, I don't.

[03:03] But he he's had a he's had a stutter his

[03:05] whole life. And are you going to make

[03:06] fun of him because he's not mentally

[03:08] there? Outside of the stutter, Donald

[03:10] Trump never made fun of the stutter. He

[03:11] made fun of the fact that Joe Biden was

[03:13] not mentally capable to be president of

[03:15] the United States and we were lied to

[03:17] about it for four years. who actually

[03:19] who signed these executive orders?

[03:22] That's what he was making fun of. And

[03:23] honestly, not even making fun of, it was

[03:24] a sad moment in America when our own

[03:27] president didn't know what door to walk

[03:29] through where they literally had to have

[03:30] tape on the ground saying, "Go this way

[03:33] and go this way." Where he had to read a

[03:35] teleprompter and he kept on saying,

[03:36] "Thank you very much. Stop speaking." I

[03:39] mean, you saw that debate. I saw that

[03:42] debate. Outside of making fun, it was a

[03:45] tragedy for America that we elected a

[03:48] quasi brain deadad individual to be

[03:50] president of the United States. Okay.

[03:52] But that had nothing to do with my what

[03:54] my original question was. Charlie, no

[03:56] one made fun of his stutter. I'm trying

[03:57] to get So, actually, let me go back to

[03:59] something you said. You said you studied

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[04:03] don't the policy the policy what why

[04:05] don't you tell me what we believe?

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[04:27] What What else? That's one of many

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[05:41] You got a very interesting crowd here,

[05:43] man. That's pretty interesting.

[05:44] Vivacious. So, let me ask you a

[05:46] question. Out of all 50 states, there

[05:48] are some that are Republican, some that

[05:50] are Democrat. You as a liberal, if you

[05:52] had to point to a state that was the

[05:54] ideal, that is the bestrun state in the

[05:56] country, what state would you point to?

[05:59] Uh, well, I don't I don't study states.

[06:02] I don't figure out that's fair. But if

[06:04] if you had to say a state that you think

[06:05] is doing things in alignment with your

[06:08] worldview that is, you know, doing the a

[06:11] good job, if you had to pick one or two

[06:13] states, what would they be? I'm I'm

[06:15] perfectly content here in the state of

[06:17] Illinois. I I think it's I think it's a

[06:20] I think I think it's a a nicely run

[06:22] state. I love I love having a 15 $15

[06:25] minimum wage. I I appreciate that. Fair

[06:27] enough. And and we'll just disagree. If

[06:30] if Illinois was so wellrun, why does it

[06:32] keep on losing population?

[06:34] [Applause]

[06:36] I don't think it is. No, no. It's it's a

[06:38] fact. In the census, Illinois lost well

[06:41] over a million people the last decade.

[06:43] In fact, every 9 and a half minutes,

[06:45] someone leaves the state of Illinois.

[06:46] Who is it that's leaving, though? Uh

[06:48] young people that go to school at ISU.

[06:50] No, it's it's Republicans. How can you

[06:53] how can you judge a Democrat state

[06:54] because Republicans don't like it? Well,

[06:56] actually that's just common that's just

[06:58] common sense right there. Well, people

[06:59] of both parties if I lived in Alabama, I

[07:01] would hate living in Alabama and I would

[07:02] want to leave Alabama. Well, first of

[07:04] all, the trend of people leaving

[07:06] Illinois started well before actually

[07:08] started even when Republican like

[07:10] Republican round when Bruce Rer was pre

[07:12] governor of the state. The trend was

[07:14] continuing a million people over a

[07:16] decade. So, as a liberal, I just want to

[07:19] have you and by the way, it's not just

[07:20] Illinois. I want you to explain to me

[07:22] why so many people are leaving

[07:23] California. So many people are leaving

[07:25] Illinois, leaving New York, leaving New

[07:27] Jersey, and yet people are going to net

[07:30] increase to Arizona, to Texas, to

[07:34] Florida. Why is that?

[07:37] I again, I don't study that. I don't

[07:39] That's not what I came here to talk

[07:40] about. Fair enough. But no, no, it's

[07:42] something to think about because as a

[07:44] liberal, maybe people are voting with

[07:46] their feet because states like Illinois

[07:48] and California and New York are so

[07:50] terribly run with high taxes and bloated

[07:53] pension systems and radical leftwing

[07:56] ideas. Outside of all the like back and

[07:58] forth and the gotchas or whatever,

[08:00] getting down to the concrete issue, our

[08:02] worldview is so popular that millions of

[08:05] people are moving to states that share

[08:07] our worldview where millions of people

[08:09] are leaving the states that share your

[08:10] worldview. Just based on that, we kind

[08:13] of can contest that our worldview is

[08:15] more popular and therefore closer to

[08:17] reality and actually right. Thank you,

[08:19] Charlie. Well, I wouldn't I wouldn't say

[08:22] your worldview is more popular. Trump

[08:24] didn't win majority of the votes in the

[08:26] popular Well, no, he he did. No, he won.

[08:28] He won he won less than

[08:30] 50%. More people voted for somebody

[08:33] else. He won the plurality of the

[08:35] electoral. I'm not saying more people

[08:36] voted for the popular vote in total. He

[08:39] did. Yes. He didn't win majority though.

[08:41] Right. So neither I mean just to be

[08:43] clear, winning a majority of the popular

[08:45] vote is incredibly unusual. Usually you

[08:47] win a plurality, not a majority, but he

[08:48] still won the plurality. He won like

[08:50] 48%. He also won an electoral vote kind

[08:53] of landslide. Last question here. What

[08:57] do you think that conservatives get

[08:59] right? What do you think that we as

[09:01] conservatives uh one thing you agree

[09:03] with from our perspective? Uh 100% the

[09:05] taxes. I I understand that completely,

[09:08] but I just I feel like we're taxing the

[09:10] wrong people. I'm I'm a tax the rich

[09:12] kind of guy. That's just my thing. What

[09:13] is your definition of what what is rich?

[09:18] um more specifically the top 1%. Okay.

[09:22] So if the 1% is taxed to such a great

[09:26] extent, why wouldn't they just leave?

[09:28] And then who's going to build our

[09:30] businesses, build our companies, and pay

[09:31] the exorbitant amount of taxes?

[09:34] Small business owners. Got it. So again,

[09:38] I can tell you I thought you guys were

[09:40] the small business party. No, we are.

[09:41] But at some point, just so you know, a

[09:43] large portion of the 1% are the ones

[09:45] that own the one ones that own the small

[09:47] businesses. You need both capital and

[09:48] labor. That's fine. I'll just say this

[09:50] in closing. I hope you keep on studying,

[09:52] keep on asking questions, and ask people

[09:54] in this audience, you know, why they

[09:56] believe what they believe. And I want

[09:57] you to think more deeply over the next

[09:58] couple days, weeks, and years. If

[10:00] Democrat policies were so successful, if

[10:03] they were so great, people would be

[10:04] going out of their way to go to Democrat

[10:06] states. Instead, they're going out of

[10:07] their way to go to Republican states.

[10:09] Thank you very much. Appreciate Can I

[10:11] get a hat? Yeah. I like I like

[10:13] souvenirs. All right. It's It's

[10:14] definitely a souvenir. You're very

[10:15] polite. Thank you, sir. Have a nice day,

[10:17] Charlie.