If you love America and believe in the values that made it great, join AAC, the Association of Mature American Citizens. AAC is the conservative alternative to AARP. And it's not just for seniors. It's for anyone who believes in faith, family, and freedom. Members get exclusive discounts, helpful resources, and the excellent AAC magazine delivered to your door. And right now, you can join for as little as $120 a month for a 5-year membership. Support the movement that's standing up for America. Visit amac.us/charie us/charlie and join today. >> Good evening, Charlie. My name is Remington Cultus and I had the pleasure of spending the day with your wonderful Turning Point USA chapter. >> Your name's Remington. That's the most Wyoming name I've ever heard in history. >> My old man was a Marine. >> Thank you for your service. >> Oh, >> and by the way, we have a family from the Abbey Gate. I think they're here somewhere. God bless you guys. Terrible situation. Uh lost their life. um their their loved one lost their life at Abbey Gate in Kabul, Afghanistan. Never should have happened under Joe Biden. So, thank you for being here, guys. God bless you and thank you for his service. Thank you. Please. >> Absolutely. And thank you so much for saying that, Charlie. That means so much. Um so, uh the reason I came here today is because I wrote a book for my uh very young infant son that I intend to give to him when he is a teenager. I was raised without a father and uh many of us were. And in this book, I detail a lot of the things that a child should know, should learn from his father, and I've left a copy of that with your wonderful Turning Point USA chapter. I was hoping you would do me the honor of reading it before I finalized it. >> Thank you. I I will. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. >> And I'll just say one thing. Uh the fact you were raised a father, you now have unique opportunity to give the blessing that you never had, which I think will heal a lot of maybe of the regret or sorrow, frustration that you might have been raised with. And that's my advice to young men all the time that were raised without fathers that don't walk around being bitter. Look and aim yourself to be the father that you wish you would have had. And that is the most beautiful way to kind of complete the circle and make the world a profoundly better place. So God bless you, man. Thank you so much. >> God bless you. >> Hello, Mr. Kirk. I am here to ask you about uh I'm assuming you are a big fan of uh RFK Jr. And just a few days ago, he made a speech about autism. And well, in that uh he made some very specific things claiming that autism ha has increased, which is true. Rates of diagnosis have increased. But he has also stated that autistic people are unable to pay taxes, unable to take care of themselves, and are a drain. >> That's not what he said. He said some autistic people, which of course is true. >> He emphasized most of them. >> Okay. >> Yes, he did. >> No, that's not even close to you know that's not true, man. Okay. You know that he did. I saw the video. You did, too. That's what he stated. >> It's called the spectrum for a reason, right? There's people >> I would know that. I'm on the spectrum. >> Okay. I Great. Okay. So, fine. Uh, congratulations. I mean, I don't know what to tell you >> now. >> It's a completely irrelevant information, but >> it gives information because I should know more about this than the average person. That's my my credentials compared to you. So, I should know more about this than you. Okay. But again, Bobby Kennedy, who spent his entire life trying to get to the root cause of autism, I think you should agree we should try to find that out, right? >> We already know it's a genetic issue. It just so happens to show up in people. >> Hold on. So, but if that's if that's the case, why is it that autism was one in 30,000 in the 1970s and now it's one in 2017? >> That's simple. Uh, we had co the lockdown which affected people. Let me speak. Let me speak. During co people isolated, they didn't socialize with other people and they developed similar traits such as being unable to maintain eye contact and fidgeting which are generally associated with autism. Right now that is part of the reason why we have higher rates of high functioning autistic people and the rates of uh low functioning autistic people have stayed relatively stag respectfully then hold on guys. Why did the rate go up so much from 1990 to 2020 then? No COVID. >> It's because people were being diagnosed more. We had more exposure to it. >> The test is exactly the same. The test has not changed. >> We're testing more people. >> Okay. Well, >> if if it's become normalized in society and more people are being tested for it, then more people are going to be diagnosed. >> This has been widespread debunked in many ways. And but testing better made sense for a while. But then if it keeps going up over a period of time when the test doesn't change, then there's probably an environmental factor. >> And I gave you the environmental factor, >> right? So it's just genes. >> Never said it was genes. The reason why we have had >> the reason we have had higher rates of autism specifically in the last few years is because of lockdown and not socializing with others. If we had similar statistics from back when the lockdowns from Spanish we would observe similar higher rates. >> Just so we're clear, it was 1 in 33 kids around 2019 and now it's 1 in 27. So it went from 1 in 27,000 to one in about 33 and now 1 in 27. So you go from 1 in 27,000 all the way down. So almost a thousand times increase. There's something probably causing it. And I'm not even saying it's vaccines. I don't know that. Some people believe it. Some people don't believe that. >> Well, we know it's not vaccines. The original study was >> without a you don't know. >> Yes, we do. Dr. Andrew, I'm sorry. Disgraced ex Dr. Andrew Wakefield. >> Fine. But I I will say that to have the hubris or the pride that you confidently know everything about the autist autism topic. >> I know more about this than you, Charlie. >> Okay. Well, fine. Just allow me to finish talking. Right. is I think I think exactly why we have not been able to find the determinative reason why so many kids have like let's just say neurodeiverse disorders right and so do you think there's anything about the plastics in our food from the type of diet that we >> microplastics could uh be a factor we >> okay well now that's environmental so hold on are microplastics in vaccines yes they are so but I'm not saying that that's the only way microplastics come in we got to do our for a debunked myth that >> Well, actually, I'm not. I think >> Yes, you are. You just stated a tacit endorsement. >> I am. No, I'm not. In fact, >> you're not explicitly saying it, but you're giving enough for your audience to latch on to. >> I think I think you as someone who cares about this topic should be extremely open-minded to all the data and not ideological about this. Whatever the studies end up showing that should need to be controlled, that need to be double peer reviewed and and >> we have those studies, Charlie. We don't need more. We may find some that do change it and then if that does happen, I'll change my mind. But as of now, almost every single study shows that vaccines do not cause. >> I'm not even saying they do. What I what I do find a problem with is people that don't even want to continue to explore that topic or that question. And let me tell you why. The very same people that don't even want us to try to test that are the same people that told us the COVID vaccine was safe and effective and told us to lock down our kids during CO. They in my opinion >> would you have rather had millions people of people die from CO or would you have rather had people being locked down? >> I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. We should never have locked down anybody. The lockdowns did not save a single life. Yes, it did. >> The lockdowns ruined millions of lives via suicide, speech delays. >> That's the problem. That is a negative effect of the lockdowns. >> From the perspective of the government, they working people >> all lockdowns people. all lock down. >> If everybody is dying in the hospital because there's not enough beds, then there's not going to be enough people to work the factories that you want to bring back, >> right? So again, all lockdowns did was delay the inevitable. Everybody ended up >> that was the point. The point was to delay it so we have a longer spread of people getting it. So there were hospital beds, just so we live. >> Again, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole, but the real reason why we locked down was because our public health authorities of Mr. Fouchy and Miss Burks and all of the gang over there. They refused to ever entertain early interventions that could have helped people fight COVID like vitamin D supplementation potentially. >> All been debunked, Charlie. >> Okay. So, you think that vitamin D has been debunked when it comes to fighting >> vitamin D explicitly doesn't make CO better because we are slobs and do not go out. we are unable to get vitamin D and having a good vitamin supplement makes it so you're able to fight back all diseases things along other lines such as ivormectin did not work >> let's get to the next question so here here here we have a difference >> I get it you're scared >> no we just have we have clarity but not agreement I am limitlessly open-minded to what is causing the nationwide crisis of autism in our kids do you think it's a crisis >> no >> there's nothing inherently wrong with being autistic Well, so I don't know if it's wrong, but it can be very challenging for some people. For some people, it can be a superpower. But there are severely autistic kids as well that bang their heads up against the walls. Thousands and thousands of families, tens of thousands of families have to deal with that. And I think that if we start to see something that pops up so often, and I would ask the question, if there is nothing wrong with autistic kids, why do they need medication? >> They don't need medication. >> Well, many of them actually do. That's because of other things. Autism isn't a medical a medicated disease. You do realize that talking about wanting to cure autism is eugenics, right? >> You do realize that. >> Hold on. So, no one wants to kill anybody, but if you have brain inflammation to the extent >> I never said killing eugenics isn't just killing people, wanting to remove a part of people is eugenics. >> It's an out I don't want to remove them. I want a kid who's in seventh grade right now in Casper, Wyoming, who can't focus enough to take a math test or does not understand social cues from his classmates to be able to have his brain inflammation go down by maybe 20% so that he can have an elevated social life. I want that for the millions of kids that are diagnosed with autism in this country. So anyway, we have agre we we don't have agreement. Thank you for your time. Uh, hey, do I just go? Yeah. >> Okay, cool. Um, so you've talked a little bit about American competitiveness tonight. Um, and I'm getting a sense that you're also uh not a huge fan of college. Is that correct? >> Somewhat. Yeah. >> Okay. Somewhat. And you are also not a fan of immigration. So given those two stances, you are proposing cutting off a substantial part of America's labor supply both in skilled and unskilled sectors. And you don't have you're not encouraging young people or rather you are actively discouraging young people from gaining the necessary skills to replace the skilled immigrants that are coming in. So given that you hold these two stances, how is America going to become more competitive when you uh especially in uh fields that require highly skilled labor such as medical research and material science and engineering? >> Of course, I want people to get skills. So that's not a correct representation. Does college provide skills to the most majority people that go? Does a woman's study degree give you any skills that was going to help us fight China? >> Well, you're taking and I know why you're doing this. majority of degrees and people that go to college are in the social sciences, are in communications, and they're in irrelevant degrees. A majority. So, a majority of the 21 million people that are in college right now are there studying stuff that you and I would laugh at. >> Oh, I wouldn't laugh at that at all. I think that people go to college for a variety of reasons. Uh, >> no, I I know that. But do you think that when we're looking at American competitiveness, studying North African lesbian poetry is going to make us more competitive? Well, I don't think that a person's decision to pursue an education should be determined by what is necessarily for the greater good of the country. >> Well, that's a separate issue. I'm not even contending that everyone has a right to do that. You can make whatever path you want. I'm making a broader macro point of competitiveness that when you have millions of your best people studying stuff that's complete trash and complete nonsense to just go beind become mid-level manager paper pusher bureaucrats. Not good. So I do have to ask the question. >> Well, you haven't answered my question yet because you're going on and you're talking about okay some degrees are not some majority. >> I'll grant you that. So, you're saying a majority of degrees that are granted in the United States are not going to make America competitive in STEM fields. Okay, fine. I asked given that you are anti-immigration and that you are disc you are disparaging going to college illegal immigration just to make sure. I'm I'm anti foreigners breaking into our country. So, >> I I have to clarify you on my position, but go ahead. >> So, the Trump administration's deportation of academics, that's bad. you would say, >> well, again, it depends on what they're being deported for and what they're teaching and the criteria around that. >> So, the uh the cancer researcher at what was it? Bostonu, Harvard, some Boston University that was deported for forgetting to declare frog embryos in her carry-on. That was a a dangerous person that needed to be deported. Would you agree with that? I >> I don't know enough about the frog embryo thief. >> Oh, okay. Thief. Oh no no no no no these were samples sorry smuggler related to her research >> frog embryo smuggler. Um let's talk more broadly though. >> If we are thinking about going up against China do we want more universities that are of the liberal arts direction or more that are doing really like artificial intelligence preparedness astrophysics engineering of which of course I totally support but that's less than 12% of all students that go to college study those things. So you're asking what ex So >> what's going to make us more competitive? The current college model or one that is significantly changed and somewhat reconfigured. >> Well, you your premise is that we're competing against China whereas, you know, I think that they're really a valuable trade part. >> I think we're back. Yeah. Good. All right. We're back everybody. >> Thank you to the tech guys. Thank you. >> Okay. Okay, with all that, I forgot what the question was. >> I mean, but just so you know, China's premise is that we're competing with them. I would say we're an enemy with with the Chinese Communist Party, not just a trading partner, that they're an enemy of the United States. But I don't want to go too far down that rabbit hole. Back to immigration. I'm against illegal immigration. I want the best people to be here, merit-based, but I don't believe immigration is a charity. You should not come here just because you want to, and we're not going to open our doors as just an act of benevolence. We want the best people that are going to assimilate and make our country more competitive. So you don't think we should open our doors to anyone with say a PhD or a highly skilled? >> It depends. Of course not. >> So that is an arbitrary, you know, trimming of a labor supply that we could use. How is that good for American competition? These are highly skilled, highly intelligent. >> Again, if they have a PhD, if they have a PhD in Islamic studies, what are they going to bring to America that's good? >> Okay. You don't think that humanities have any value at all? So history, >> I do actually. The way that it's taught and configured. So, are you here at University of Wyoming? >> Uh, yes, I am. >> Okay. Are you in the humanities or what are you? >> Oh, it depends on who you ask. I'm uh studying to be a doctor of economics. >> Oh, great. Good. So, so you guys have spent a lot of time uh studying Thomas Soul. >> Uh, yes. >> And Milton Friedman. >> Uh, yes. >> And FA Hayek and Luva Van Mises. >> Uh, yes. My work is actually uh quite closely related to Fred Hayek. >> Great. So, do you think most college kids across the country are learning Hayek? >> Um, actually, yes. I was introduced to Hayek and Bastiat. Uh, >> that's a joke and you know it. Like, >> oh, really? >> You're the first economics student in the country I've ever known that even knows who Hayek is. Hm. Well, I think that's because a lot of people enter economics thinking that it's just another business degree, that it's just about it's a it's a rigorous study to obviously go after the humanities as they're configured are wretched to the core with anti-western teaching, anti-American literature, >> anti-western teaching, >> an emphasis on Herbert Marcusa and Angela Davis and Kimberly Krenshaw and Judith Butler and what Derek Well, >> what's wrong with Angela Davis? She's a great woman. >> What? Angela Davis, the outspoken, vocal communist. >> Yeah, >> she's a great woman. >> Yeah. Wow. >> Yeah. That's why kids shouldn't go to college to learn from communists. [Applause] That proves my point. Angela Davis has nothing to offer to the academy. She is the disciple of Herbert Marcusa. I don't think a diverse education in political theory is useful. >> You can learn about those perspectives, but studying them as your primary perspective. Do you think that >> who's who who's studying Angela Davis as their primary perspective? That's a leap. That is a leap. >> No, it's hold on. Angela Davis's or the postmodern school of thought brought to you by Marcusa and the Frankfurt School and Jacqu Dereda is the predominant philosophical worldview that is put forward in the humanities across the country. We've we've strayed pretty far from my original point. We've got people behind us. Well, well, hold on. I'm just going to give you an opportunity to clearly answer the questions that I had. Given that you are anti-immigration, >> anti- illegal immigration. >> Okay, fine. Anti- illegal immigration. That's fine. I'll >> more Elon Musk and less Elon Omar's. Does that make sense? >> Well, that's fate, but okay. >> So, that's the type of legal immigration I want. More Elons, less Elons. Okay, we're going to ignore that bait. Um, but I mean you have merit over >> earlier just said >> you are against some highly educated, highly skilled immigrants that come in based on your personal criteria. Fine. And you are against training our young people to fill their shoes. How does this make America more competitive? And you've spent a lot of time talking about immigration and the fact that some college degrees are worthless, but you have not at all addressed how your viewpoints make America more competitive. >> Apprenticeships, trade schools, community colleges. There's other options than four-year colleges to be able to get skills, of which I highly support. Did you know there are 11 million job openings in this country right now that do not require a college degree, that just require some form of technical training? So yes, we need less people going to college and more people that are going to enter the muscular class of this country. The community college isn't going to teach you how to cure cancer, but that's my time. All right. >> Okay. But a community college actually might teach you how to change a tire, which millions Americans don't know how to do. Okay. Thank you for your time. As if studying the humanities, you're learning how to cure cancer. It's really something. Yeah. >> Evening. Um, I guess my biggest question is I don't entirely understand what the point of this is. Not what you're doing right now, but kind of this movement as a whole. I I genuinely don't know what the end goal is of any of this. It's literally called the American comeback, but you're talking about, you know, past American values, past this, or differences that existed before the 21st century. But automation, progression, things like that, those don't get a go back. Like you can't re you can't deinvent some of the things we've done. When it comes to rhetoric around like trans people, it's always now now, but 25, 50, 100 years in the future, like I just don't know what the point of these arguments is. Like take genetic engineering for an example. It's changing a lot of things about humanity and pretty much everything else in the world. Do you really think that innovation is going to stop 25, 50, 100 years in the future? Like the ability to change something about a person pretty much arbitrarily if you felt like it or bringing back American jobs except a lot of jobs are already being supplanted by automation, artificial intelligence. Like if we keep doing that, there might not even be a point of working in the future. So I guess my real question is is what do you expect in a hundred years from now out of humanity or hell even the US if it still exists? I don't know. >> Okay. I mean, that's a good question. I mean, so what do we want? I mean, for example, we want to reverse the fertility crisis in the west. We are increasingly having less children and we have a population collapse that is plaguing our entire society. People need to get married more and have children younger and have a lot more children in this country. We want to see that reverse. And that actually plays into your question. With automation, AI, and the hyperdigitization of our country, we are becoming less human to one another. I want to see more people go back to church. I want to see church attendance go down. I want us to become a less violent country and have violence go down. I want a country where you don't have to lock your doors at night because you know your neighbor by the name and you don't have to worry that someone's going to come in and steal your stuff. I think Wyoming is a great model for part of the America that we lost where there is that kind of rugged independence, but there's also that neighborly dependence where you're so far from the town center that if something happens to your kid, you drive to a neighbor first to see if they can help or they can pitch in. We've lost that. We're increasingly a nation of strangers. We're foreign to one another. And so those are just some things. I mean, as far as a hundred years from now, I would love to see what the current trends that we are seeing. I'd love to see the suicide epidemic in this country reverse, the drug ep ep epidemic in this country reverse. I'd love to see us become less obese and improve our diets. And so it's just some of the things that we're aiming for to come back to the country we used to have. >> That's the thing I struggle with though. You talk about a comeback, but the United States has its fair share of issues in the past. I mean, the whole point is that we try to move on from those. Like >> do we have anything great in the past? We do. There's also plenty of bad things, but okay. >> Then we want to go back to the good things. >> I guess I don't like this rhetoric of walking it back, especially in the future. >> Why does that bother you? Why does it bother you to say, "Hey, we want to go back to how it was in the 1980s where divorce rates were lower and that kids were in serate screens all the time." Like, why is that bad? >> 1980s there was a ton of drug abuse going on. >> Of course, every era has a problem, but objectively the 80s were a better country to be raised as a kid than today. Objectively, the '9s, you could say the same. The number one killer of our nation's young people is self-inflicted suicide. When suicide is the leading cause of death of your nation's young people, there's something like so alarmingly wrong that we should press pause and ask the question, why? >> I guess, like I said though, we can't walk back a lot of what we've done. The internet isn't going away. Same thing for artificial intelligence. I I'm not even recommending >> but like a lot of those points in time you're referenced to it's always about like social media is causing you know the decay of the country or decay of humanity or just all of these things but this stuff isn't going away and it's not likely to change. So I again it's just respectfully I reject your whole attitude. We can change things. You don't have to be on your phone all the time. You don't have to have it as if it's like some augmentation of your being. We can turn off our phones and be human again. You don't have to all of a sudden bend a knee to the technological leviathan or the beast and act as if you're just a vassel of the major, you know, social media companies. The technology might keep proceeding, but they're also going to be a remnant of th those of us that want to remain human. So, thank you. [Applause] Uh, hello. I'm mainly here because, uh, my dad said you could debate me better than he could. Um, but I just wanted to ask, are you a dry beater or a lotion beater? >> Thank you. You waited in line for that. It's really great. Thank you. >> In fact, I'm happily married with two kids. You look unmarried, my friend. Oh, you have [Applause] >> to the previous question. I want it that young men are not so confused and quite honestly demented that they have a woman in their life and that keeps them in check from acting so outrageously like that in public. Yes. Next question. Welcome to the University of Wyoming. So, here's my question. And I I fundamentally disagree with you in regards to having a family and uh getting married in this day and age. And I'll tell you why. 70% of the divorce rates happen because of women. Okay, that's a fact. Before we get angry, let's talk about the facts. And you can Google this, too. And on top of that, And on top of that, 85 Hey, hey, hey. 85% of the men or I should say people in jail could rope in fatherless homes. So there's a direct correlation between those two things. So my my thinking is that we don't need to necessarily have more families unless we have a complete change to the system. Now what do you think about that? We need to change the system in order for us to have a nice conversation about, you know, having a family because the state incentivizes single motherhood in this country. And you're looking at me with that face, but tell me why. >> I'm I'm trying to understand what you're saying. What is your contention that we shouldn't get married and have kids? >> We shouldn't currently because of this particular issue right now. >> What What issue is build that out further for me. Sorry. >> Okay. Okay. Let me explain. outside of the fact that you know the anti-woman thing that you said besides >> well it's not necessarily anti-woman it's a fact you can Google this too and look at the divorce rates in this country I'm just saying that if we're going to have more families we need some protections in place for men because right now the legal system actively destroys the man in court all right is that false or is that true >> I mean yeah of course it's true that the state encourages divorce but yeah how about you find a woman that you want to spend the rest of your life 10 years. I was married for 10 years >> and then you should take responsibility for your own actions. Like why is that my problem? >> No, no, the thing is is that you're saying you should you're asking me if I should find a woman. >> But hold on. You're going up in front of people timeout to say marriage is bad cuz I had a bad experience. >> No, no, no. But it's true statistically. We can look at the data. Is it wrong to say that, hey, 70% of divorces are initiated by women when the data says that? >> Can I ask you a provocative care about feelings, right? >> Can I ask you a provocative question? Did you did you did you do anything that led to your divorce? Absolutely. >> Okay. So, it wasn't all the woman's fault. >> No, no, no. But I'm saying no, but here's the thing. 70% of the divorces are initiated by them. And yes, this is an anecdotal situation. >> See, I I reject the premise. I reject the premise. I think that we as men must lead. Women might initiate it, but we as men don't take the directive to have peace in the home. I reject the premise. Hold on. Hold on. Time out. Let me finish. I reject the premise. Yes, women might initiate the divorce proceeding, but we are the one as men that ignore the subterranean threat and the brush fire that is growing. We're the ones that should take the family back to church, that go seek counseling if necessary. It's not good enough just to say like, hey, you know, oh, it's women that initiate it. It's men who don't act, I think, confidently and strong enough in most cases to actually make sure that marriage is a safe haven to have children in a holy protected place. >> And I think that makes sense. And let me say this, okay, let's find some common ground. So, we know that the system is flawed, right? So, here's the thing that's flawed about it. When the federal government incentivizes the state at the state level for child support enforcement programs and we have a system where the state makes a bunch of money off of this, it's pretty parasitic because there's no such thing as a 50-50 custody in Wyoming, even if you get along with the parent. So when the state is actively involved with family matters and women are getting paid off from this and this is not false, we have a toxic system that probably needs to be revised. Do you not disagree with that? Because >> I I think we should revise I do think I do believe in more men's rights and custody. I think that's fine. But like let's take a step back though and I think it's very important is that that men are objectively better when they are married and they don't stay as grown infant boys watching porn and playing video games all day long. >> And I don't disagree with that. >> Good. So we agree. I agree. >> Here's my argument. Despite >> Here's my despite the problems of the legal system of which your argument has some merit. >> Yeah. >> We still should get married because it is the right thing to do. despite the technical problems, despite the difficulties. In fact, it's up us for up men, us men to find a woman that we love and to protect that marriage and hope that it never goes in the direction of divorce. >> And and >> that's 30% though. That's 30% chance. >> I don't again. So, well, no, no, about half a marriage is continued. It's not 30%. >> No, because if 70 No, hold on a second. Because look at this. Why do we have such a society that is so hyperfocused on we need to have a bunch of children and get married and but we have this system in place and I'm talking about the federal government that incentivizes single parenthood and we can look at most of these inmates in jail come from fatherless homes maybe we should get rid of the state involved in personal family matters. So you're conflating. You know why the fatherless homes you're talking about are people that never got married in the first place. Most of the time they're men that they're men that impregnate women and flee their the women that they were with. But understand this that every generation has had troubles. >> Yeah. >> Our duty as men is to overcome obstacles, not whine about them and not complain about them. So yes, there is a problem here. But I would reject the premise. Every man here should not, every young man should say, "I'm not going to be a boy and I'm going to go do the hard thing and get married and have children." And I would just push back against some of your narrative where you're telling like, "Well, men, it might not be good. It might not be this." Yes, life has lots of things that could throw at you, but marriage is a holy holy institution that we should aim for. And the fact that marriage is slipping in the west is one of the great damaging indicators as to why our country is falling apart. >> Should we revise it? Should we revise? >> Yes, I I think we should revise some laws. I I agree. But the answer is not to not get married or run away from that institution. It's tough. Okay. Still go get married and have kids. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. >> Hello, my name is Madison. Um I'm a student at the University of Wyoming currently. Um next semester I'll be taking a step away from college specifically and I'll be getting my license and vet technician work. Um, but go Udub. Um, I do have a question for you. Um, I grew up in a conservative conservative household, thank God. Um, I'm I'm I'm very glad to be a conservative in this day. Um, and I have recently kind of had some conflicting feelings and I think that they kind of um, in terms of like view differ from what your view is. And I just I'm I'm really wanting to kind of get to a solid middle ground here and find some balance in my opinion. Um, I am kind of rising to uh the mindset of being an advocate for Hispanics. Um, specifically if I can give you an example. So recently, I think within the last year, she lives in a different state, but if I can share this in confidence, I guess I mean without great detail, uh she is an illegal alien and this was kind of a shock to me being a conservative and her asking me what my viewpoints are and uh compared to hers and she's become like one of my best friends and I love her dearly and I've seen her um grow within the last year uh working in this country um providing a lot to this country and um helping America become excellent. Um, she's currently a student in a university and a lot with the recent election, which I'm proud of who I voted for, but uh, she's not necessarily the same viewpoint. And I guess like my biggest conflict here is what would you like to see going forward for the Hispanic community, especially um young women and um men and uh who are in their 20s who are legal um >> being able to have the same equal opportunity in this country as I do because that's my conflict, you know. >> Yeah. So, thank you. Uh great question. I'm going to uh gently correct some stuff. Um go for it. >> Yeah, it's okay. Not all Hispanics are illegal. In fact, there's a lot of Hispanics that are here legally. So, I know you said Hispanics twice. I don't want to loop the idea that every Hispanic is here that broke into the country illegally. Secondly, uh No, I know. And that not all illegals are Hispanic. There's a lot of other countries that people that break those laws. I don't know enough about the situation here, but here's just the general rule that if you break our law, there must be a penalty. Period. And so, if you are here and you came into the country illegally, I don't know the circumstances. If they were carried as a kid, it's a little bit more complicated. >> She was when she was two. >> Well, so then her parents are the ones that should go back to wherever she came from with her. >> Okay? >> Because her parents made that mistake with her. I'm a incredibly like non-negotiating hawk when it comes to immigration. Because if you come here without permission, if you come here without warrant, then we don't have an immigration system. We basically just have a bum rush on the southern border. It could be very hard for you because you know this person and you like this person, right? At the same time, we're the the only country in the world that says, "You know what? I understand that you're not supposed to be here and that you haven't been here for the right reason, and we're just going to allow you to stay here." That's how we've gotten to the place where we have 20 million people illegally in our country. And so, and and I just like that just just to be clear that the her parents are the ones that basically cut in line and then used her kind of as, you know, as a way to get into the country. And I don't love the idea of like emotional manipulation. I'm basically a blind justice guy. If you're not here legally, we will humanely return you to your country of origin. And so you might not agree or like that, but we have to be a nation of laws. We're not going to be just a nation of feelings. >> Right. No. Yeah. And I really appreciate that. Thank you so much. >> Thank you for your question. Really appreciate it. Thank you. [Applause] Hello. Uh, my name is Kit. So, I am a generally like conservative libertarian. However, one thing I've noticed about the conservative movement over the past couple years is almost an overfixation on the left's obsession with identity politics. And I think what it I mean what it seems like it's turning into is that we're becoming so obsessed with getting rid of identity politics that it is effectively becoming our identity politics where it seems like it could be a tool that's used to hide bad policy and ignore good policy that needs to be implemented. And I just wonder like do you think that this overfixation on getting rid of identity politics could eventually hurt the conservative movement? >> Can I ask you to give an example? Is that okay? Well, as an example, for your entire introduction here, the majority of it was talking about, you know, getting rid of DEI. And don't get me wrong, DEI isn't a good thing. I I'm glad to have it gone. >> Well, no. So, identity politics, just so we're clear, is your political affiliation is your skin color. Getting rid of things that believe that your political affiliation is your skin color is not identity politics. And it's not our identity. We're simply just fixing an error. Does that make sense? >> Yes. But the overfixation on those things because we do definitely have genuine issues that I hear almost nothing about from either side actually or they're things that I hear from the left but they don't actually do anything about because the goal is to not >> Yeah, fair enough. We would just say though that those four examples I gave CRT, DEI, affirmative action, desperate impact, these are incredibly important and what I'm doing is celebrating like a glorious achievement and I only have so much time to talk here and we should get rid of bad things and we should celebrate it when we get rid of bad things, >> right? But the focus with getting rid of bad things, I mean, don't you think that the focus of getting rid of bad things is to then talk about what new things we can move on to? >> Sure. Yeah. I mean, I think President Trump is doing that as well, but I mean, have you seen emphasis on the disparate impact stuff? Probably not. I mean, this is in a monumental step forward for the country because we're getting rid of this this monstrosity. And getting rid of DEI means we're bringing back merit. That means more innovation. That means more entrepreneurs. That means more risk-taking, more invention, and so I think they actually play in together. Thank you. I got to get to the next question. Thank you very much. [Applause] >> Hi, Charlie. Um, I go to a decentlyssized uh trade school here in town called Wiotech. >> Good for you. God bless you. >> Um, I know there's quite a few of us here, so I just had a quick question. Uh, what's your advice for the bluecollar community? man. Um, first of all, God bless you. Uh, my my first my message to those that work with your hands. Not only do you matter, but we would not have a country without those of you that work in the invisible jobs behind the scenes. Uh, three things, four things. Build skills, build businesses, build wealth, build character, build a family. Five things. Do those five things. And you, you in a bluecollar job, you have a very unique blessing. And I find this. You know what your blessing is? You can what I call layer. Layering is where you do one thing and you can add another productive thing on top of it. So what what can I ask you? What do you what is your proficiency? What do you >> uh I'm in collision and refinishing. >> Great. So I imagine Thank you, by the way. Collision and refinishing. You're going to have a job for a long time, just so we're clear. Yeah. Uh especially with Wyoming winters, right? Um, so while you're doing that work, I imagine you could listen to a podcast, right? So my advice to Bluecollar America is you could become incredibly wise and deep and proficient while you're making an income. A lot of people that are sitting in meetings all day long that work in the laptop class, not the, you know, muscular class, they don't have the ability to do that. So, what I'm getting at is in the time that you're working with your hands, you're able to also train and learn and dive deep into ideas. That's why I believe the average plumber in this country has more wisdom than the average college professor in this country because they are they are they are consuming such necessary information. And then finally, never let anybody anybody talk down to you or what you're doing just because you did not go to college. Prove them wrong. Start a business. build a lot of wealth. Not only is it critically important, but you know, we have a colossal shortage in this country of people that know how to do things. And when you can do things, you are valuable and therefore you are powerful. So, God bless you, man. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Thank you for all you've done for this generation. >> Just a reminder, disagreements, we'll work you through the line. Yeah. >> Hi, Charlie. My name is Lenny and it's nice very nice to meet you. Um, I'm a conservative through and through and something I struggle with a lot is some of my family members are Democrats and I like to debate with them a lot, but they always get me with the tariff conversation. So, I was wondering if you could kind of elaborate on the benefits of the tariffs. >> Yeah, I mean, look, it's way too soon for anyone to win that debate. It's very, let's just start with China. We we do not make our own vitamin C in this country anymore. We don't make the the the ingredients to be able to make our own antibiotics or our own drones. What President Trump is doing is number one, the people voted for tariffs to bring jobs back to this country. Number two, he's using this as a negotiating tactic to be able to bring countries to the table so that they will buy more of our goods and services. How does this impact Wyoming? You guys have a lot of LG in this state, right? Got a lot of liqufied natural gas. You should be able to sell Wyoming LNG to Japan and to Europe without any tariff. and they should buy Wyoming LNG, not Iranian oil or gas. That's what the tariffs are actually going to allow us to do. They're a negotiation tool to be able to bring people to the table. I think we're going to get phenomenal deals out of this. Look, America has two oceans to our sides and a continent of resources. Very, very rare. And we have two friendly neighbors. Well, yeah, we have two friendly neighbors. And we've allowed ourselves to become dependent on countries that aren't like us. The tariffs are a message and a signal that we want to be a self-sufficient country and that we will not be a vassal state to the Chinese Communist Party. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. >> Much God bless. >> Thank you. [Applause] >> Uh, hi Charlie. My name is Keith Durovan and I was wondering what is a woman? >> Well, an adult human female with XX chromosomes. That's what a woman is. >> Thank you. Hi, Charlie. My name is Ally Edwards and I'm a student here at the University of Wyoming and I'm studying range land ecology and wershed management. Um, I guess my question is I'm concerned about the reduction of staff in public land agencies like BLM and Forest Service. Given how crucial public lands are to Wyoming's economy, why are these cuts happening? And how do you recommend that we manage these lands effectively with fewer resources given that in Wyoming especially we are going to feel this on the fire lines this summer? >> Yeah, again I don't know enough about it. Do you think there's any waste in these departments? That would be my first question. >> Um definitely. So I always like to joke I had a boss who never showed up to work. >> So maybe that's who Elon fired. >> Yep. He didn't. He fired me. >> Oh, okay. Well, >> yeah. >> I'm sorry that you got fired. >> Well, no. I mean, I'm a seasonal employee, but you know, the hiring freeze, they could not hire interns this summer, but um you know, I had some friends that worked um the forest service as well who lost their jobs and they were participating in their jobs every day. >> Yeah. So, again, you isolated one thing of waste. I wish they would have cut that, not you. You seem very sweet. I don't I don't know nearly enough about that, but um yeah, look, the the intent, let me go to the broad intent, and I think a lot of that will get worked through. Senator Baraso and Senator Lemus, I'm sure, are working through all that. Is this we are a nation careening towards bankruptcy. We are going to be borrowing trillions of dollars that we do not have. We're $35 trillion in debt. You have to make tough cuts when that happens. And I also think when you make a mistake and you cut things that you shouldn't. You should fix that mistake of which I think is happening in certain areas. But I would prefer an administration that moves fat fast to cut spending than never moves at all to cut spending because we have a massive problem with our debt and deficit in this country. So, I hope you'll be back on the fire lines this summer. >> Thank you. >> God bless you. Thank you. Great question. [Applause] >> Uh, hello Charlie. My name is also Charlie. So, good name. Um, I'm a member I'm actually an editor at the student newspaper here, The Branding Iron. And I was just wondering sort of a little politically neutral question, I guess. Um, well, two-parter. First of all, I think I already know the answer to this, but do you think that there's a bias in American media today? And secondly, as a member, >> I kind of figured, but as secondly, as a member of the press, you know, I I want to be a journalist. Uh, what can I be doing to combat that in your view? >> So, the first the first part of bias is story selection bias, which is the stories they don't cover. So my first piece of advice is it's not even the story composition itself, which is of course bad, but it's are you covering the stories that might make one side look bad or actually might elevate another side. So story selection bias is big. Finally, it's also the facts that they emphasize or they will not emphasize. So my other piece of advice to you is that when you are writing the story, if you're describing, for example, Charlie Kirk, the liberal media would say, "White supremacist Charlie Kirk, that that doesn't have journalist intent, right? That's just complete BS, garbage, rubbish. There's nothing behind it." So try to refrain from like very incendiary descriptions or adjectives and try to to to and I'm sure they teach this as you're a journalist, right? Be incredibly factual in the way that you can you can write it. In fact, your job should be, this is your goal, the reader should never know your politics. If the reader does not know how you vote, you're an honest journalist. If the reader is left in mystery about your reporting, you're a good journalist. >> Fair enough. That's always been my goal. >> Thank you. >> God bless you, man. Thank you so much. >> We'll take a couple more. Yes. Uh my name is Sarah and I am a adjunct professor at this university and one of the things that you say is that university is a waste and I would like to know what can professors do to make university not a waste. >> Great question. What what do you teach by or help teach? >> Um I teach agriculture law. >> Great. Um the more applicability in the classroom the better. So let me say this in your particular domain things that can be immediately useful and that can be applied to the domain of which they're in school for is incredibly important. Uh profess professors should also focus on building a network of employers that can come in and teach and meet the kids in class because they actually want people to hire and then the kids would be thrilled that they get to go meet people that could potentially hire them. And so as a professor, just a piece of advice, you know, in agricultural law, I bet there's like 10 big a law firms in Wyoming. I'm just guessing, right, that do the I bet there's like a big three and there's probably 10 that you know of. They should come in and present, you know, once a semester. I'm sure probably this already happens. But then the students are able to communicate with them. They get to know them, you know, and develop relationships with them. So, >> thank you. >> Thank you so much. God bless you. Thank you. got one one or two more. >> Hello, my name is Dominic Reid. I'm a Wiiotech student. I'm currently in the diesel program. >> I have a question. >> Awesome. >> I have a question about the uh mass diagnosis of ADHD, ADD, >> and them essentially just mass prescribing rolin and other >> yepamines to children. I was prescribed that a rolin. I got a rolin prescription at like third grade and it turns out that all I needed to do was work with cars and with my hands and that actually focus. What is your opinion on like America? This is a so we take more medications than any other country on the planet. That's not a good thing. We think we need a pill for every ill. And what's happened with ADHD and the New York Times did a massive story on this is that it's actually for the parents benefit, not for the kids' benefit to medicate third and fourth year, fourth grade boys cuz they're too rambunctious. Hey, you want your men to be have be full of energy when they're in fifth, sixth, and seventh grade. You do not want them medicated just staring into the sky. And look at you. All you needed was to find something that you cared about, that you were passionate about. You didn't need to have a bunch of pharmacological agents pumping through your body. It's a problem of values. People want a pill to solve their troubles and we mass overprescribe ADHD. Imagine all the geniuses, all the brilliance that we are currently medicating in this country because they're too unruly. And you think about it, if you want to neuter the men of a country, you give them a bunch of drugs. Makes them more agreeable, makes them easier to control. So in my final point on this is I'm glad you found something that you could pour yourself into. Mass medication and overprescription is a major structural problem in this country. >> Another part. Do you think that has an uh effect on the amount of like drug addiction in this country? Mass prescribing >> potentially. Yeah. I mean I think that philosophy has led to the mass prescription of drugs in this country. There are two types of problems. There are acute problems and there are chronic problems. For acute problems, drugs are great. If you have, you know, you've broke your leg or that you have a back problem, those are temporary. Chronic is a much different. That could be ADHD. It could be lupus. It could be all sorts of issues. When it comes down to those specific issues, I think we need to look at more natural solutions. becoming more in touch with our bodies, going on a walk, not being on the phone, getting in the sun, working with our hands, being around family, going to church, eating well, you know, and not being catastrophically overweight, I think, is a lot better than taking six pills every single day. God bless you, man. Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Okay, this will be the final question. >> Hey, Charlie. Uh, my name is Isaac. I'm 20 years old. >> That means laughter does. And I do like to laugh a lot. Good. So, a couple years ago on the way home from high school, when I was in high school, um I was listening to your show and I heard you advocate for the trades and not going to college. So, I wanted to thank you for that input because I gladly skipped college and I've been an electrician for two years now. I love it. So, thank you. Great for you, man. My question is a faith related one, actually. Um, so I'm sure you know that most tradesmen are either alcoholics or divorced or felons or sometimes all three, but it's okay. We love them. Um, what would your advice be to young tradesmen who love Jesus more than anything and want to exemplify them or exemplify him in every word and action but have a really hard time consistently operating that way in an environment where mentioning Jesus is like committing a war crime? Man, first of all, God bless you and thank you for I I I just I love the hardworking men of Wyoming. Can we? It just gives me so much hope. It's just amazing. Um, number one, you have to make your faith center in everything that you do. In all that you do, in the same advice I gave previously to the podcast you listen to while you're doing your work, make it sermons, make it teachings, make it speeches that glorify God in all that you do. If you know that most tradesmen have problems drinking, maybe you're just going to say, "I'm going to not drink in my life. I don't drink and it's a great way to live. Everybody, Tucker Carlson doesn't drink. Donald Trump doesn't drink. You got a lot of energy when you don't drink. And >> I'm 7 months sober, by the way. >> Praise God, man. That's amazing. Good for you. And let me ask you, uh, are you do you see a positive benefit from that? >> In every aspect of every second of every day. >> Praise the Lord. And my advice for people in this audience is that if you're struggling with alcohol, tomorrow can be a new day where it can be your day one. Jesus Christ is with you through every single one of those steps and those struggles. And even if you say, "Well, you know, I I don't have an alcohol problem." That that's fine. That's not actually the contention. The contention is, is it good for you in what you want to do? So, here's what I say to young men, and Jordan Peterson's been saying this for a while, which is, what are you aiming at? What is your goal? What is your destination? And so by not drinking, what you've done is you've just taken one of those variables completely off the table. And let me tell you, if you're an alcoholic, you're more likely to get divorced. So you now have decreased the likelihood of getting divorced. I don't know if you're married or if you're, you know, look, you're looking for >> um I'm my whole heart belongs to Jesus right now. >> Amazing. There's a lot of women here that I think would love to meet you. So, so and read the word every single day and come up with clear rules for your life of things that you will not do, things you will not watch, ways that you will not engage. And finally, don't never be satisfied with the skill set you have. Learn a different language. Learn more about a specific topic that you enjoy. Start another business. And finally, you're in a unique place. Because when people call an electrician, they're looking for help. You have a chance to minister. So when you walk in to be an electrician, you don't have to be like Billy Graham. And so proclaim, you don't have to be that, but you could say, "Hey, how are you doing? You having a good week?" >> People will talk to you. It's amazing how they'll talk to people they welcome into their home. >> Especially if you have a good way about you and you're organized and you're put together and you don't have alcohol on your breath, they'll talk to you and they'll say, "Oh, it's just terrible. You know, my kid is this and that." Be like, "Can I pray for you?" And by the way, this is Wyoming, right? This is not San Francisco. So, a lot of people will say yes. Right? And then you can all of a sudden use your electrician job as a way to witness to other people. And you would be shocked at how God is going to use you to be able to spread the gospel in places where people would never ever come into the gospel before. And it doesn't mean you have to all of a sudden rename your electrical company to like, you know, Jesus heals your electrical problems, right? At the same time, you need to be a witness in every way cuz you're going to find people that are suffering. You're going to see kind of, you know, discord and, you know, disillusionment and you are now a missionary and you didn't even realize it. You get to go into more homes that I get to. I mean, I broadcast a lot of homes, but you're going to be intimate. And even if you walk into a business, you get to meet in your career, how old are you? >> 20 years old. >> You're 20 years old. So, you're going to be an electrician probably for the next 40 years, 50 years. You're probably going to walk into 10,000 to 15,000 homes, >> right? that that that is a mission field the likes of which that now at 20 you can be like you know what my aim is my aim is to bring 250 people to Jesus over the next decade or my I my to do that so now all of a sudden you're using a trade that can then feed you know feed your family eventually and make you money to go glorify God in an ultimate purpose and that's my advice for all of us is to infuse your daily work for God's glory and to do it in ways that we could never imagine and so man bless you and I just want to say that like I love people that that go in the contrarian way. I'm sure there's a lot of pressure to go to college. Um, but you're going to earn a great living, be an electrician. There's a shortage of electricians in this country as you well know all across because we we look down upon these trades in this country and we said we should elevate them. So, I'm counting on you to be the missionary electrician from Laram, Wyoming. God bless you, man. Thank you so much. >> All right, everybody. Final point. Wyoming I didn't talk about Wyoming politics. You guys need to stay involved in local politics and your state politics. This state should be the most conservative state in the country politically. It is in presidential politics. It needs to start acting that way in who you elect and how you keep the pressure on. I'm thrilled that you guys retired Liz Cheney. Keep that up everybody. We love that. God bless you and God bless Wyoming. Thank you guys so much.
