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Man Who Falsely Claimed Responsibility for Charlie Kirk Murder Now Faces Child Pornography Charges
George Zinn, 71, confessed to police that he shot Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University, then admitted he lied to help the real shooter escape. But his interference in the murder investigation wasn't the end of his legal troubles. When FBI agents examined his phone, Zinn confessed to possessing child sexual abuse material and admitted to being sexually aroused by children aged 5 to 12. Crime analyst Angenette Levy examines the disturbing new charges against Zinn, his history as a political gadfly with multiple arrests, and how his false confession may have helped the real suspect, Tyler Robinson, evade capture in the critical moments after Kirk's assassination on campus.
The False Confession That Disrupted a Murder Investigation
71-year-old George Zinn stands on video telling police officers that he was the person who shot and killed Charlie Kirk on the campus of Utah Valley University. It was just moments after the shooting. The scene was chaotic as students ran in fear after hearing a gunshot and seeing Charlie Kirk bleeding from the neck. Kirk's staff grabbed him and rushed him to an SUV in the hope of saving his life, but it was simply too much and too late.
Newly released documents shed light on how the initial apprehension of the first suspect impeded the Kirk shooting investigation. A detective named Dudson was on duty working the event when he heard a single gunshot at about 12:20 p.m. As he makes his way through the crowd, an elderly man approaches him screaming, "I shot him, now shoot me." That man was 71-year-old George Zinn, and he tells officers he's the shooter. But when asked about the location of the firearm, Zinn reportedly said, "I'm not going to tell you."
Police escorted Zinn to a patrol car at the back of the venue. Witness video recorded the detention and has been circulating on social media. Zinn was transported to the Utah Valley University Police Department for questioning. Before Detective Dudson could advise him of his rights, George Zinn asked for a lawyer, so they couldn't conduct an official interrogation.
Zinn Admits He Wanted to Help the Real Shooter Escape
The affidavit goes on to state: "At that point, I advised George I did not think he was the one who did the shooting. But since he told me he wanted an attorney, I could not talk to him. At that point, he advised I am already going to be in trouble for saying I shot him, even if I did not. I did not ask him any more questions at that point. George stated on his own that he did not shoot the individual. He stated he did it to draw attention from the real shooter."
Zinn's arrest went viral on social media with mixed reactions about whether or not he was actually the shooter. Some witnesses who knew Zinn expressed doubt that he was capable of the precision shot that killed Kirk.
Zinn was taken to a nearby hospital for an undisclosed medical condition. At the initial press conference, Utah Department of Public Safety Commissioner Bo Mason announced Zinn's arrest and subsequent release, asking the public to be patient with the investigative process and not to harass persons of interest who were not suspects.
But newly released documents reveal that while Zinn was at the hospital, he admitted to the FBI that "he was glad he said he shot the individual so the real suspect could get away." The affidavit provides more information on the comments that Zinn made during the transport. During this time, George made statements to the officer that he was glad he said he shot the individual so the real suspect could get away. He also stated to officers that he wanted to be a martyr for the person who was shot.
FBI investigators and Utah State investigators conducted an interview with Zinn where he openly admitted that he was not the shooter. In Utah, that's a crime. Authorities had enough to book Zinn immediately into the Utah County Jail on suspicion of obstruction of justice after he was cleared from the hospital.
Shocking Discovery: Child Sexual Abuse Material on Zinn's Phone
Toward the end of the questioning, agents asked Zinn if they could look through his phone and whether or not there would be anything illegal on it. What Zinn said next sparked a whole different investigation. The man sitting in the hospital bed confessed to using his phone to look at child sex abuse material, according to a probable cause affidavit.
The agents sat with Zinn and looked through his phone contents. The affidavit states: "The photos folder contained images of prepubescent female children around the age of 5 years old. The children were dressed in underwear. George told investigators that he was sexually aroused by children ranging in age from 5 to 12 years old. I observed many images of young female children posed in different positions, often referred to as child erotica. One definition of child erotica is non-pornographic material relating to children that is used by individuals for sexual purposes or gratification. The images almost always depict children posed in swimsuits, underwear, or compromising positions."
There were more than 20 images of child erotica content on Zinn's cell phone in the images section. These images were copied and reused more than 50 times in separate conversations with different contacts and phone numbers. Zinn was sending these images in over five conversations, claiming they were his daughters, asking people to perform sex acts to them, and telling contacts he performed sex acts to them.
Investigators seized Zinn's phone and Utah County forensic examiners downloaded it forensically to further review and investigate. George Zinn was released from the Utah Valley Hospital and taken into custody. As of now, there is nothing suggesting that George Zinn and the real alleged shooter, Tyler Robinson, are connected in any way.
Zinn's History as a Political Gadfly
This isn't Zinn's first encounter with law enforcement. He's well known by Utah police as a political gadfly who likes to hang around political events. There's no question as to why Zinn was at the first stop of Charlie Kirk's American Comeback Tour at UVU that day.
According to court records, Zinn has been arrested and charged numerous times over the past 20 years in Utah with misdemeanor crimes. Most notably, he was involved in an incident related to the Salt Lake City Marathon, where the then 59-year-old sent an email to the marketing director of the marathon asking, "I was wondering if you needed anybody to help place bombs near the finish line on Saturday." This was the same week as the Boston Marathon bombing that killed three people and injured 170. Staff took these allegations very seriously. Luckily, nothing happened at the event, but the email was reported and Zinn faced a second-degree felony charge of threat of terrorism.
In 2019, Zinn was also one of eight people arrested at a Utah Inland Port Authority board meeting. Zinn and other protesters became rowdy, pushing and shoving. According to the arrest report, Zinn became angry and pushed some of the protesters because he thought they were blocking a Utah Transit Authority bus. For that incident, Zinn faced charges of disorderly conduct and failure to disperse.
Legal Expert Weighs In on the Charges
Trial attorney Rich Shoenstein discussed the case, expressing his disbelief at Zinn's actions: "As horrible as this underlying crime is, the shooting itself which is obviously a terrible crime, the idea that some bystander in the crowd would interfere with police, not just to investigate a crime, but to keep a crowd of college students and other people safe, it's unfathomable to me that somebody would do that."
Shoenstein emphasized the danger Zinn created: "If you're interfering with law enforcement in a situation like that, you are really putting people at risk. And not just the people you don't like, your friends and neighbors, your fellow citizens, you are putting at risk. At that moment, people didn't know exactly who was doing the shooting. You didn't know how many there were. You didn't know if there was going to be more shooting. You didn't know who the targets were."
Regarding the child pornography charges, Shoenstein noted: "This does deserve to be probed by law enforcement and if it leads to ferreting out some misconduct, I'm all for it. I think all of that is horrible wherever you are in that supply chain. I think basically you are somewhat responsible for what is happening to the minors that are the subject of that kind of stuff."
Potential Connection to Tyler Robinson Investigation
Zinn's name came up in text messages between Tyler Robinson and Robinson's roommate. The sheriff put out a press release saying there is no evidence that George Zinn is connected to Tyler Robinson in any way or connected to this assassination. However, in the text exchange between Tyler Robinson and his partner, the partner mentions that someone was in custody, and Tyler responds that it was just some old guy, but confirms it was him who committed the shooting.
Zinn's false confession did work to some degree because when the story was first unfolding, people thought authorities had captured the shooter very quickly. This potentially dampened the police response in those first minutes because they thought they had a suspect in custody. Shoenstein pointed out: "This individual could have contributed to an actual suspect getting away. It could have had dire consequences."
Authorities are investigating whether Tyler Robinson had help or encouragement. He was on a group chat on Discord with more than 20 people, according to the FBI director, and they are running down all of those people. Robinson's mother told police that over the last year or so, he had been leaning more politically to the left and becoming more pro-gay rights and pro-trans rights. While having those political views doesn't mean someone will commit violence, something happened over the last year that changed Tyler Robinson.
Ongoing Investigation and Potential Charges
Shoenstein explained the scope of the investigation into Zinn's phone: "There's a branch to where did he get the pornography if it's on his phone. Who distributed it? Who made it? There's a branch to is he involved with trafficking or attempting to traffic minors for sex. So there's a branch there. There could be other people involved in that. And law enforcement's going to go down every branch. Because of what else he did, law enforcement is going to try to accuse him of everything they possibly can. They're going to go after this guy fully and they're going to investigate. They're going to climb down every single branch of this tree and find whatever else they find."
If the investigation leads to uncovering a child pornography or trafficking ring, it could be some good that comes out of this horrible situation. Zinn is being held without bail as the investigation continues. At this time, investigators say they have not found a connection between him and the alleged assassin of Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson.
Tyler Robinson remains held without bail on an aggravated murder charge and other charges, and prosecutors say they are pursuing the death penalty against him.
Video Transcript
Kill me.
We don't know if it's him or not.
The man who claimed responsibility for
the murder of Charlie Kirk is now in
even bigger legal trouble. I go through
the new charges filed against George
Zinn involving child pornography and why
he says he told the cops he shot Charlie
Kirk.
[Music]
Welcome to Crime Fix. I'm Anget Levy.
71-year-old George Zinn, he's on video
telling police officers a week ago that
he was the person who shot and killed
Charlie Kirk on the campus of Utah
Valley University. It was just moments
after the shooting. The scene was
chaotic as students ran in fear after
hearing a gunshot and seeing Charlie
Kirk bleeding from the neck. Kirk's
staff grabbed him and rushed him to an
SUV in the hope of saving his life, but
it was simply too much and too late.
Newly released documents shed light on
how the initial apprehension of the
first suspect impeded the Kirk shooting
investigation. A detective named Dudson
was on duty working the event when he
heard a single gunshot at about 12:20
p.m. As he makes his way through the
crowd, an elderly man approaches him
screaming, "I shot him, now shoot me."
That man we now know was 71-year-old
George Zen. and he tells officers he's
the shooter. But when asked about the
location of the firearm, Zinn reportedly
said, "I'm not going to tell you."
Police escorted Zen to a patrol car at
the back of the venue.
We don't know if it's him or not.
Now, here's another view of George Zen
being detained. It was recorded by a
witness and it's been circulating on
social media.
The guy that just shot him.
This is the guy that shot him.
[Applause]
[Applause]
Zinn was transported to the Utah Valley
University Police Department for
questioning. Now, before Detective
Dudson could advise him of his rights,
George Zinn asked for a lawyer. So, they
couldn't conduct an official
interrogation. But the affidavit goes on
to state. At that point, I advised
George I did not think he was the one
who did the shooting. But since he told
me he wanted an attorney, I could not
talk to him. At that point, he advised I
am already going to be in trouble for
saying I shot him, even if I did not. I
did not ask him any more questions at
that point. George stated on his own
that he did not shoot the individual. He
stated he did it to draw attention from
the real shooter. Now, Zinn's arrest, it
went viral on social media and there
were mixed reactions about whether or
not he was actually the shooter
stage and I turn and look and they were
arresting a guy by the name of George
Zim. Yeah, I know the guy. I don't think
he did it. I think they arrested the
wrong guy. I think whoever did it was a
good shooter, a sharp shooter. It was
one shot right directly to the heart.
And we need to find out who did this. I
think there should be a research
completely done that take that took
place hours maybe a day before anything
went on who could be there and pull that
trigger and do it and I don't think it
was George Sim he was poor broke he
maybe was on medication a little bit
looneymoon maybe a perfect person to
pick and say that did it but I don't
think he did it at all
so at this point but did you see him
taken into custody did you see him with
any kind of thing in his hand any device
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hospital for an undisclosed medical
condition. At the initial press
conference, Utah Department of Public
Safety Commissioner Bo Mason announced
Zinn's arrest and subsequent release.
During the investigative process, we
located a couple of persons of interest.
We interviewed those individuals
and after releasing them and after
clearing them of being suspects,
they faced scrutiny. They faced threats.
We asked the public to be patient with
the investigative process. These
individuals were not suspects. They were
people of interest. Um we ask that you
do not impose into those in those people
and that investigative process. Um they
don't deserve that harassment for for
being subject to that.
But newly released documents now reveal
that Zinn was at the hospital and he
admits to the FBI, quote, "He was glad
he said he shot the individual so the
real suspect could get away." The
affidavit provides more information on
the comments that Zinn made during the
transport. During this time, George made
statements to the officer that he was
glad he said he shot the individual so
the real suspect could get away. He also
stated to officers that he wanted to be
a martyr for the person who was shot.
FBI investigators and Utah State
investigators conducted an interview
with Zen where he openly admitted that
he was not the shooter. In Utah, that's
a crime. So, authorities had enough to
book Zen immediately into the Utah
County Jail on suspicion of obstruction
of justice after he was cleared from the
hospital. But it doesn't stop there.
Toward the end of the questioning,
agents ask him if they can look through
his phone and whether or not there would
be anything illegal on it. What Zinn
says next sparks a whole different
investigation.
The man sitting in the hospital bed
confesses to using his phone to look at
child sex abuse material. This is all
according to a probable cause affidavit.
Yes, seriously. I guess at least he was
honest. But that is incredibly
disturbing. The agents sat with Zen and
they looked through his phone contents.
And the affidavit is pretty graphic in
nature. So I'm just going to read
portions of it. The affidavit states,
"The photos folder contained images of
prepubescent female children around the
age of 5 years old. The children were
dressed in underwear. George told
investigators that he was sexually
aroused by children ranging in age from
5 to 12 years old. I observed many
images of young female children posed in
different positions, often referred to
as child erotica. One definition of
child erotica is non-pornographic
material relating to children that is
used by individuals for sexual purposes
or gratification. The images almost
always depict children posed in
swimsuits, underwear, or compromising
positions. There are more than 20 images
of child erotica content on Georgia's
cell phone in the images section. These
images are copied and reused more than
50 times in separate conversations with
different contacts and phone numbers.
George is sending these images in over
five conversations saying they are his
daughters asking people to perform sex
acts to them and telling contacts he
performed sex acts to them.
Investigators seized Zinn's phone and
Utah County forensic examiners
downloaded it forensically to further
review and investigate. On Monday,
George Zinn was released from the Utah
Valley Hospital and taken into custody.
As of now, there is nothing suggesting
that George Zinn and the real alleged
shooter, Tyler Robinson, are connected
in any way. But this isn't Zinn's first
rodeo. He's actually well known by Utah
police as a political gadfly. He likes
to hang around political events. So,
there's no question as to why Zinn was
at the first stop of Charlie Kirk's
American Comeback Tour at UVU that day.
A few months ago, I referenced this last
night, Charlie posted to social media,
when things are moving very fast and
people are losing their minds. It's
important to stay grounded. Turn off
your phone, read scripture, spend time
with friends, and remember, internet
fury is not real life. it's going to be
okay.
He again said when you stop having a
human connection with someone you
disagree with, it becomes a lot easier
to commit violence.
He said what we as a culture have to get
back to is being able to have a
reasonable agreement. Being able to have
reasonable agreement where violence is
not an option. Now again to my young
friends out there,
you are inheriting a country where
politics
feels like rage.
It feels like rage is the only option.
But through those words, we have a
reminder
that we can choose a different path.
Your generation has an opportunity to
build a culture that is very different
than what we are suffering through right
now.
Not by pretending differences don't
matter, but by embracing our differences
and having those hard conversations.
I I think we need more moral clarity
right now. I hear all the time that
words are violence. Words are not
violence. Violence is violence.
And there is one person responsible
for what happened here. And that person
is now in custody
and will be charged soon and will be
held accountable.
And and yet all of us have an
opportunity right now to do something
different.
According to court records, Zinn has
been arrested and charged numerous times
over the past 20 years in Utah with
misdemeanor crimes. Most notably, he was
involved in the Salt Lake City Marathon,
where the then 59-year-old sent an email
to the marketing director of the
marathon asking, quote, "I was wondering
if you needed anybody to help place
bombs near the finish line on Saturday."
Mind you, this was the same week as the
Boston Marathon bombing that killed
three people and injured 170. So, staff
took these allegations very seriously.
Luckily, nothing happened at the event,
but the email was reported and Zinn
faced a seconddegree felony charge.
threat of terrorism. In 2019, Zinn was
also one of eight people arrested at a
Utah Inland Port Authority board
meeting. Zinn and other protesters
became rowdy, pushing and shoving.
According to the arrest report, Zinn
became angry and pushed some of the
protesters because he thought they were
blocking a Utah Transit Authority bus.
For that incident, Zinn faced charges of
disorderly conduct and failure to
disperse. But these current charges,
they're a whole new ball game. So to
discuss all of this, I'd like to bring
in Rich Shoenstein. He is a trial
attorney and he's been following this
case very closely. So Rich, uh, tell me
if you would just your reaction to this
George Zinn, you know, being accused
formally now. He's been charged with
trying to interfere in this
investigation into the shooting, the
murder of Charlie Kirk by saying, "Hey,
I'm the guy. I'm the shooter."
So I think the actual reaction I gave
you yesterday when you asked me if I
could come on was geez louise.
Right. Right.
That and that is sort of my reaction
because as horrible as this underlying
crime is uh the shooting itself which is
obviously a terrible terrible crime. The
idea that some bystander in the crowd
would interfere with police, you know,
actively doing their job, not just to
investigate a crime, but to keep a crowd
of college students and other people
safe. It's unfathomable to me that
somebody would do that. I can't I can't
even begin to understand the thinking
behind interfering like that. Yeah. And
the thinking was according to what the
police are saying in the affidavit was
that the guy was saying, "I want to be a
murderer for this guy. I wanted to help
him get away." So, he was actively
trying to draw police attention to
himself. They at the time, they have no
clue, absolutely no clue where this shot
came from other than it came from
probably one direction. They don't know
that there's somebody up on a roof, even
though they may have been thinking it.
They've just got somebody saying, "Hey,
look at me. Look at me. I'm your guy."
And and he had readily admits to the
police that he he was trying to be a
distraction to he was aiding and
abetting
essentially somebody getting away that
they don't believe he even knew.
I find that so offensive. Not just
because he's aiding and abetting someone
who who just committed a horrible crime,
but really I go back to this idea he's
putting everybody at risk. You know, at
that moment, I don't think people knew
exactly who was doing the shooting. You
didn't know how many there were. You
didn't know if there was going to be
more shooting. You didn't know who the
targets were. So, if you're interfering
with law enforcement in a situation like
that, you are really putting people at
risk. And not just the people you don't
like, your friends and neighbors, your
fellow citizens, you are putting at
risk.
Undoubtedly, I I mean, there's no doubt
about that. I I want to move on now to
peeling back the onion on the next layer
of this uh ridiculous nonsense, and that
is the fact that George Zinn, when he's
in police custody, according to the
according to the officers, they say,
"Hey, we need to look at your phone. do
you have anything illegal on there? And
he says,"Well, well, in fact, yes, I do.
I have photographs of kids on there
between the ages of five and 12 in
various states of undress." I'm
paraphrasing what he said, but he says,
"Yeah, you're going to find photos of
young girls on my phone." And I I try to
set up meetings and hang out with them
and I'm I'm sexually aroused by young
girls. And so he says, "You're going to
find this on my phone." And lo and
behold, they open up his phone and and
they say that's what they find. And he
he's deleted them because he knows that
it's wrong according to the affidavit.
So, oh my god, Rich. I mean, this guy
has a history, but now we're getting
like way into his mind and we're we're
seeing exactly what potentially is going
on with this guy. Lots of problems,
right? and and that maybe answers some
of the questions about what kind of guy
would do something like this. Uh it's
this kind of person who is fundamentally
disturbed already and is participating
in child pornography which is another
thing I find deeply offensive no matter
where in the supply chain you sit in the
production distribution or use of that
material. Um, so it's it's bad and um,
you know, it's going to get investigated
pretty fully now.
Yeah, definitely. And they downloaded
his phone and apparently he said that he
sends this stuff to a lot of contacts.
Uh, he's tried to arrange meetings with
people according to this paperwork. He's
admitted to trying to arrange meetings
with people for sex with young people.
Um, claimed in some points that these
were his kids or whatever.
I don't I'm not sure that they are. It
sounds like they probably aren't, but
there's a whole another thing that could
blow up out of this. A ring possibly. Uh
people sharing this stuff, people trying
to arrange meetings for sex with kids.
So, the possibilities about where this
guy's phone and what he did and where it
will lead are really endless,
right? It's like a tree with all of
these branches potentially going out.
You know, there's a branch to where did
he get the pornography if it's on his
phone? Uh who distributed it? Who made
it? There's a branch to is he involved
with trafficking or attempting to
traffic minors for sex. So, there's a
branch there. There could be other
people involved in that. And law
enforcement's going to go down every
branch. Remember, because of what else
he did, law enforcement is going to try
to
um accuse him of everything they
possibly can. They're going to go after
this guy fully and they're going to
investigate. They're going to climb down
every single branch of this tree and
find whatever else they find.
Let's talk now about how his name came
up in the text messages between Tyler
Robinson and Tyler Robinson's roommate.
Right now, the the sheriff put out a
press release saying we have no evidence
that George then is connected to Tyler
Robinson in any way or connected to this
assassination.
But it is interesting, you know, in this
text exchange between Tyler Robinson and
his roommate, his partner, he, you know,
the partner says, you know, that was you
and I thought they had somebody in
custody or whatever. And and Tyler's
like, yeah, it was just some old guy,
but yeah, it was me. Um, so, so it did
work to some degree because when this
story was first unfolding, people
thought, "Oh, wow. They they got the
shooter really fast. they tackled this
older man who could be the shooter. Um,
so it did really dampen potentially the
police response in those first minutes
because they thought they had a suspect
potentially in custody,
right? I remember that. I remember them
saying or or at least being chatter on
the internet, they got the guy very
quickly and I think there was maybe even
video of law enforcement tackling this
guy or picking him up if I remember. And
that definitely could have delayed the
pursuit of the actual suspect. And when
you think about it, because what we've
heard is that Tyler Robinson was going
to make an effort to to come back and
cover up the gun or some some other way
cover up. This this individual could
have contributed to an actual suspect
getting away. Uh it could have had dire
consequences. And from what we've seen,
and by the way, all of these people, I I
always should say they're presumed
innocent, right? They're innocent until
proven guilty. I don't want to I don't
want to prejudge any of them. I'm just
going based on the evidence that we're
hearing about. We don't see a real
connection between the two of them, but
obviously that's going to be
investigated.
Yeah, they're definitely going to
investigate that. Let's talk a little
bit about that because they are
investigating whether or not Tyler
Robinson had help or encouragement. You
know, he was on a group chat on Discord
with more than 20 people, the FBI
director says, and they're running down,
they claim all of those people. Uh who
was he talking to? his mom saying
telling the cops, you know, over the
last year or so he had starting leaning
more politically to the left um and
becoming more pro-gay, protrans, rights,
things of that nature. This is all in
the paperwork that they filed with the
court. Um you know, having those
qualities doesn't mean necessarily that
doesn't mean you're going to go out and
kill somebody, but this guy is accused
of going out and killing somebody. So
something has gone on over the last
year, it sounds like, um, that has
changed Tyler Robinson,
right? So that's a whole that's an
electronic tree. That is a Discord tree,
and they've got to go down every branch
of that, too. both to find out if he
conveyed information over discord that
would be useful in prosecuting him and
we've already seen I think some of that
but also to find out if there was any
information coming in that might have
aided or emedded or encouraged him to
commit this crime. So they have to look
down all of those branches and then
certainly to find out if anybody else
was involved, if there are any other
potential defendants out there and all
of that is being thoroughly
investigated. I have no doubt.
Yeah, it it definitely is. And uh we'll
see if there are any connections between
Tyler Robinson and groups or even this
George Zinn. I doubt there are because
George Zinn's been living up in the Salt
Lake area. Um, you know, Tyler Robinson,
22-y old guy down in the St. George
area, three and a half hours south. I
doubt there's a connection. You never
know, though. With this case, you never
know what could happen. Uh, I do want to
go back to George Zen there, though, for
for a minute. Um, do you think more will
come of this investigation just based on
what we've read in that affidavit? Um,
Rich, the fact that this guy has all
this stuff allegedly on his phone, uh,
and he's been messaging people about it
and and sharing these photos.
Yeah, there could be some there
definitely could be some meat here on
the pornography part of this. uh and and
maybe that would be some good that would
come out of this horrible horrible
situation if it does lead to an
investigation and it does lead to in
uncovering some sort of child
pornography or trafficking ring or other
illegal activity. I mean I think all of
that is horrible wherever you are in
that supply chain. I think basically you
are somewhat responsible for what is
happening to the minors that are the
subject of that kind of stuff. And um
this does deserve to be probed by law
enforcement and if it leads to feriting
out some misconduct, I'm all for it.
Most most definitely. Well, this guy um
he's got some big problems. He's been in
trouble in the past and now he's got
some big big problems. Um because what
he's accused of doing in both instances
is really awful.
Yeah.
Rich Showenstein, thank you so much as
usual for your time and your expertise.
I appreciate it.
Great to see you, Anette.
Yeah, great to see you, too. Zen is
being held without bail as the
investigation into him continues. Again,
at this time, investigators say they
have not found a connection between him
and the alleged assassin of Charlie
Kirk, Tyler Robinson. Tyler Robinson
remains held without bail on an
aggravated murder charge and also other
charges, and prosecutors say they are
pursuing the death penalty against him.
And that's it for this episode of Crime
Fix. I'm Anget Levy. Thanks so much for
being with me. I'll see you back here
next time.