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Matt Walsh Traces Transgender Ideology From John Money to Modern Medical Industry Profiting Off Kids
Matt Walsh explores the origins of transgender ideology, tracing it from mid-20th century figures like John Money and Alfred Kinsey to its modern acceleration in the early 2010s. Walsh examines three key factors driving the movement: social media contagion among youth, a medical industry profiting billions from gender transitions, and ideological zealots promoting a Gnostic spirituality that separates body from soul. Speaking at a church gathering, Charlie Kirk challenges pastors to break their silence on this issue, criticizes the collapse of the distinction between sex and gender, and provides practical guidance for parents facing children influenced by transgender ideology.
The Historical Roots of Gender Ideology
The modern transgender movement traces back to the mid-20th century, specifically to figures like John Money and Alfred Kinsey. John Money is considered the father of gender ideology, being one of the first to promote the idea that there exists a distinction between sex and gender. This was a critical move in establishing the foundation for what would become modern transgender ideology.
Money introduced the concept that biological sex is separate from gender, with gender being defined as how someone presents themselves in the world. This distinction between sex and gender was essential to the development of the ideology. However, as time progressed, particularly around 2013-2015, transgender activists began collapsing this distinction. They started arguing that a trans woman is not just performing femininity or identifying as a woman, but actually is a woman with no distinction between the two categories.
This represents a slight of hand trick commonly employed by trans activists, where arguments are never followed to their logical conclusions. Instead, each argument simply sets the stage for the next claim, creating a moving target that makes coherent debate nearly impossible.
The Acceleration Point and Three Driving Forces
The transgender movement hit a dramatic acceleration point in the early 2010s, around 2012-2014. This acceleration can be attributed to three distinct but interconnected factors that converged during this period.
First, the proliferation of social media on smartphones created a social contagion effect, particularly among young people. Second, the medical industry recognized the enormous profit potential, with tens of millions to hundreds of millions of dollars to be made from gender transition procedures and ongoing treatments. Third, there emerged a group of true ideological believers who approach transgender issues with an almost religious fervor.
The medical professionals and institutions involved largely don't actually believe the underlying claims of transgender ideology. Most don't genuinely think a biological male is in any real sense a woman. However, the financial incentives proved overwhelming, with millions of dollars suddenly flooding into this industry, creating a rush to capitalize on the trend.
The Gnostic Spirituality Behind Trans Ideology
The true believers in transgender ideology operate from what amounts to a religious faith position, though they attempt to cloak it in scientific language. What they actually believe, when willing to articulate it honestly, is that a trans woman is a man who has the soul of a woman. This is fundamentally a spiritual claim, not a scientific one.
This belief system represents a form of ancient Gnosticism, a heresy that Christianity has historically rejected. Gnosticism, derived from the Greek word for mind (nosis), promotes the idea that the mind, body, and soul are separate, disconnected pieces. This stands in stark contrast to Christian teaching, which holds that body and soul are intrinsically connected and unified.
Christian theology emphasizes that our bodies have physical and spiritual meaning. Scripture refers to the body as the temple of the Lord and teaches that bodies will be resurrected. The Gnostic belief underlying transgender ideology suggests that one can have a soul or identity separate from what is objectively observable about the body, leading to claims that someone can be something they physically are not.
When pressed on where this female soul in a male body comes from, the logical conclusion introduces God into the equation, which creates significant problems for trans activists. It raises uncomfortable questions about whether God makes mistakes by putting the wrong soul in the wrong body, questions they prefer to avoid entirely.
Some have even extended this Gnostic thinking to claim animal identities. There are documented cases of schools making accommodations for students identifying as cats, including providing litter boxes in bathrooms. This represents an old form of paganism and beliefs in reincarnation that Christianity specifically challenged and replaced with monotheistic truth.
The Brain Argument and Scientific Manipulation
Trans activists often try to present a scientific veneer for their spiritual beliefs by claiming that some men have women's brains, pointing to various studies allegedly supporting this claim. However, this argument is fundamentally flawed from the start.
The definition of a man's brain is simply the brain that is inside the head of a man. By definition, whatever brain a man has is a man's brain. Any study claiming to show that a man has a woman's brain is completely bogus regardless of its funding, duration, sample size, or methodology because it violates this basic definitional truth.
This illustrates why engaging in study battles with trans activists often proves fruitless. When someone brings up a study claiming men can have women's brains, the appropriate response is to recognize that such a study is inherently flawed in its premise, making the details of its methodology irrelevant.
The Failure of the Church
The primary reason transgender ideology penetrated so deeply into institutions is the failure of the one institution specifically designed to stand as a vanguard against such evil: the church. During the critical years of 2016, 2017, 2020, and 2021, when battles were being fought at school board meetings, rallies, and in media, Christian leaders were conspicuously absent from the frontlines.
More often, liberal feminists could be found fighting transgender ideology than Christian pastors. Even worse, when pastors did comment, they frequently condemned those fighting the ideology for being too rude or too mean, offering no alternative approach of their own while contributing nothing but silence.
While woke churches displaying rainbow flags represent an obvious problem, the bigger issue has been lukewarm, milquetoast churches that avoid saying anything objectionable but also fail to address critical issues. These churches say things that are technically true but omit what desperately needs to be said, creating a dangerous void.
Christians sit in church as soldiers coming off a spiritual battlefield, bruised and broken after six days in the world. Church should be where they receive their marching orders, regroup, and discuss battle plans. Instead, too often church feels like a meeting with an HR representative or a guidance counselor, led by pastors who seem to live in a different reality than their congregations.
Parents whose children were being captured by transgender ideology would attend church for years without ever hearing the issue mentioned, as if it didn't exist. This represents not just negligence but a sin of omission. When pastors remain silent on controversial issues, they communicate to their congregations that these issues don't matter. There is no middle ground on morally critical issues; silence itself is a statement.
Practical Guidance for Parents
When a parent faces a child struggling with transgender ideology, the response must be rooted in genuine love, which means never surrendering the child to this madness. The child may express hatred, scream, and lock themselves in their room, but parents must never give in to the lie that upsetting their child means they don't love them. In this situation, the fact that the child is upset actually indicates the parent is responding correctly.
On a practical level, parents must examine and eliminate harmful influences. If a 13-year-old is experimenting with the idea of being trapped in the wrong body, they almost certainly have a smartphone and social media access. The phone must be taken away completely, not just limited. No screens should be allowed in rooms where doors can be shut. Any screen time should occur in public areas of the home where parents can monitor what is being watched.
Parents should also evaluate their child's friend groups and consider extreme measures if necessary, including removing children from public school and homeschooling if that's what protection requires. These measures may seem extreme but they are workable and necessary.
Pastors should familiarize themselves with Dr. Miriam Grossman's book "Lost in Trans Nation." Dr. Grossman is an actual clinician who treats children with gender dysphoria, not merely a theoretical thinker. Until recently, the treatment protocol was watchful waiting, based on the belief that puberty was the solution, not the problem. Approximately 99% of children would grow out of gender confusion without intervention.
Critical Facts About Youth Gender Dysphoria
Several important facts characterize the youth transgender phenomenon. First, 75% of cases involve girls, which matters because girls are far more susceptible to social contagions, including cutting practices, dressing to accommodate peers, and responding to social stigmas and clique pressure. Young women ages 12-14 are in a particularly vulnerable period of life when transgender ideology specifically targets them.
Second, there is a very high correlation between autism or other neurodivergent disorders and falling victim to transgender ideology. Children with autism face a significantly higher likelihood of being captured by this social contagion.
Third, pastors must do everything possible to prevent parents from taking their child to a medical doctor for gender-related treatment. Even pediatricians who have treated a child since infancy are now being trained in what amounts to medieval witchcraft science that recommends hormone blockers. The guidelines of the American Pediatric Association are shocking in their promotion of harmful interventions.
The typical medical pathway starts with a visit to a pediatrician, who develops a plan involving hormone blockers and a psychiatrist. The psychiatrist then recommends Lupron intervention, eventually leading to surgery that can result in mastectomy by age 16. That pediatrician has been schooled to believe this is a body disorder when it is actually a brain disorder.
The first interaction with a potentially gender-confused child is critical. Parents should ask extensive questions: Where did you hear about this? When did you start thinking this way? Are any of your friends thinking this way? Being infinitely curious about the condition, rather than immediately reacting, helps defenses come down and creates an environment of love and genuine concern.
Preventing the Problem Before It Starts
Beyond responding to an existing crisis, parents should focus on preventing children from reaching the point of gender confusion in the first place. This involves removing harmful influences like phones and social media, but at a deeper level, it requires maintaining attachment with children.
Children should stay attached to their parents in the sense that they orient themselves to the world based on their parents' guidance. Throughout most of human history, children figured out how to be in the world, how to be a person, how to be a man or woman, by looking at their parents, grandparents, and elders.
In the era of public school and especially social media, this bond is often severed very early. Children begin orienting themselves to the world by looking at their peers instead of their parents. They stop caring what their parents think and actively reject parental guidance. While modern society treats teenage rebellion as a normal phase, this was not the case historically. In 1832, it was not taken for granted that a 14-year-old would hate their parents.
This happens now because culture actively works to rip children away from parents and elders who love and know them, placing them in a confusing environment where they learn about the world by looking to other confused peers. This creates a cycle of confusion where young people follow each other in circles.
Fathers play a particularly critical role. Young boys literally look to their fathers constantly to figure out what being a boy means. They have masculine energy and aggressiveness but don't know where to direct it. They need fathers to show them, not just tell them, how to apply these qualities. Similarly, mothers show daughters what it means to be a woman. Without both parents demonstrating these roles, confusion naturally arises.
Statistics suggest that approximately 70% of children who transition come from single-parent homes or homes without a father. However, there's also a category of overly hyperinvolved parents who take children all the way to surgical intervention. These parents face emotional blackmail from doctors who ask whether they'd rather have an alive son than a dead daughter, putting them on a sequence of interventions that's difficult to escape.
The Call to Action for Church Leaders
The absence of fathers contributes to every serious societal problem. There is no cultural or societal issue that can be discussed coherently without acknowledging that so many children grow up without fathers. This factor should be discussed more prominently regarding transgender ideology specifically.
Church leaders must break their silence and provide environments of moral and spiritual clarity. While a youth pastor might not see immediate results from a couple hours per week with kids whose parents aren't fully engaged, planting seeds of truth can sprout into something meaningful down the line. The effect may not be visible in the moment, but clarity provided now will have impact in the future.
Parents struggling with these issues need to be ministered to directly. They need significant help and spiritual guidance. If parents aren't on board, are confused, scared, or don't know what to do, any work with their children will constantly push against that resistance.
The final marching order for church leaders is simple: take this message back to churches. Play clips addressing these issues. Break the silence. Provide the moral clarity that congregations desperately need. The sin of silence must end, and churches must fulfill their calling to stand as a vanguard against the evil of transgender ideology that is destroying children and families.
Video Transcript
Where did transgender ideology
originate? Well, it I mean it kind of
depends on how far back you want to
trace it. You could trace it. Yeah.
Right. You could trace all the way back
to the Garden of Eden, I suppose, if you
wanted to. The the fall of man, but uh
it it really the what we consider, you
know, the modern gender ideology, the
modern transgenderism movement goes back
to the mid 20th century to guys like
John Money, uh Alfred Kinsey. I mean
really John Money is kind of the father
of gender ideology and he was one of the
first to get this idea that and to and
to uh promote this idea that there's a a
distinction between sex and gender. And
that was a really key move is to draw
this line of delineation between your
sex your what we call your biological
sex which of course is redundant. you
don't need to say that sex is biological
and your gender which is you know the
way he looked at it it's it's um just
how you present yourself in the world
and there's this distinction between the
two and that was it was very key to draw
this distinction but then what you
notice as this as time goes on and this
stuff becomes more mainstream that this
this distinction between sex and gender
was then collapsed and that happened
somewhat recently. This is something you
started to notice around 2013, 14, 15.
They started to collapse this
distinction where now the trans
activists were saying that well actually
a a quote unquote trans woman is not
just kind of um performing uh femininity
is not just identifying as a woman, but
actually is a woman. So that there's no
actual distinction, the trans activist
would say, between a trans woman and a
woman. They're one in the same. So they,
and this is the kind of slight of hand
trick that you find with leftists
generally, but in particular with trans
activists, everything is a slight of
hand. You know, they make an argument
and they'll they'll never follow it to
its logical conclusion because they
can't. And so everything they do,
they're just trying to set the stage uh
for the next thing. A and so it seems as
if though that the trans movement hit an
acceleration point in the early 2010s
12, 13, 14 with the proliferation of
social media on our kids smartphones,
but also where the medical industry
seemed to realize that there were tens
of millions, hundreds of millions,
billions of dollars to be made, coupled
with actual transgender ideological
zealots. Can you explain all these
different buckets? There's the the
social media component which is the
social contagion. Then there's the
medical industry that sees these kids as
annuities. But then there's also like
firm religious believers in transgender
ideology that think that you're it's
almost a Gnostic spirituality. Can you
speak to the Gnostic spiritualities part
of it? Yeah. I think and and those are
your those are your zealots as as you
say. Uh I think that they're they're
very much in the minority. I think for
most if we if we ask
ourselves why this idea gained the
foothold in our culture that it did uh
it was able to do that through our
institutions through um the institution
of medicine through our school system um
through uh the the you know mental
health so-called mental health
professionals and most of them once
again didn't really believe that any of
this was actually true. I mean, did they
actually believe that uh a biological
male was in any sense really a woman?
No. But for them, there was a lot of
money in it. A lot of money. And that's
something that that came on very
quickly. And there was just this rush,
this millions and millions and millions
of dollars all of a sudden in this
industry. So I don't think they actually
believed it. But you did have these the
the true believers and for them now they
can't talk about the issue coherently.
They even they can't really explain as
we know they can't explain what a woman
is when they say a trans woman is a
woman if you just ask them well what
what do you mean by that? I find that to
be a really powerful question in
general. It's like well what do you okay
that's your statement that's what you're
saying that's your that's your claim.
What do you mean? Can you just talk
about that for a little bit more? Can
you can you give me a few sentences
about that? And they can't do it. And
the reason they can't do it is because
it is purely a matter of of faith. It's
a it's a kind of and they don't want to
say this because they want to cloak it
in science. But what they actually think
is that it's spiritual. What they what
they actually believe, if they're
willing to say it, is that when they
that a trans woman is a man who has the
soul of a woman, that's that's what they
believe. That's right. But they but they
won't say that because now they've
admitted that they're on religious
grounds. And that's and that's also an
argument they don't want to have because
then I could say, well, okay, let's
let's talk about that. A trans woman is
a man with the soul of a woman. Where
did he get the soul from? I mean, where
does he come from? Where's his soul
from? And the answer
is right now, well, now we've introduced
God into the equation. And that's a big
problem for the trans activist because
then then the question is well well so
so what happened? Was there some sort of
uh error on the celestial assembly line
where God accidentally put a the wrong
soul into this body? Is does is God
making mistakes? Um and uh and and of
course that's not a claim they want to
make either. And so to go even further,
I hope you guys internalize what Matt
just said. There's more profoundity in
that couple minute explanation almost
anything you'll hear in American
seminaries. There's an old religious
belief of something called gnosticism.
It is a heresy. Lucas talks about it a
lot. And essentially, it's a belief.
Nosis, by the way, is the Greek word for
mind. It's a belief that the mind and
the body and the soul are all kind of
separate pieces. We as Christians
completely reject this. For the record,
we believe that the body and the soul
are actually really connected. That's
why in the scriptures it says that our
bodies will be resurrected again. that
our bodies actually have very physical
meaning that it it says your body is the
temple of the Lord's and in first
Corinthians that that that this Gnostic
belief though is that sense that you
have a soul that is separate than your
body then you can kind of be something
that you physically or even
independently or objectively observe
that you are not. So you could even be
an animal and you guys laugh. I I'm
going to tell you a real example. In
Donner's Grove South High School, I I
think I got this correct. In the middle
school, the junior high, in the
bathroom, they have accommodations for
kids to be able to use um like kitty
litter. I'm not because the the girls
are identifying as
cats. That is an old Gnostic belief, by
the way, of people that would say that
I'm just a reincarnated
animal. And yeah, it's a form of
paganism, Hinduism. Again, this is
nothing new. Again, you know what
changed all this? Christianity changed
all this. We were the first religion to
come through and say, "No, there's one
God. It's Yahweh, Jehovah. This
polytheism is a bunch of garbage."
Right. So, anyway, Matt, can you can you
riff? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to
add to that because I think that one of
the problems, one of the ways that this
narcissism took hold is uh that you had
a lot of Christians who
um don't understand their own faith and
and don't know how to talk about it. Um
and so so for
example, you you'll hear and this is a
this is a quote you'll see I've seen
circulating on social media for years
and years. And I think that it's often
falsely attributed to CS Lewis,
sometimes GK Chesterton, and the quote
is something like uh I don't have a a
soul, I am a soul, I have a body. That's
that's the quote that you see sometimes.
And this is not something that that CS
Lewis would never say something that
stupid. You hear this from Christians
sometimes, but no, that's that's that's
not correct. I I it's not that you are a
soul and you have a body. You are your
body and your soul. There's a unity of
the two. You can't you can't separate
the two. So we we we tend to think of it
like uh my body is a some kind of
receptacle or a
vehicle. You know that my soul is just
kind of driving around and pulling the
levers inside my body. That's not it.
That's not it at all. What what I am
what you see my body is who I am. And my
soul is in in a in a mysterious way
inextricably linked with my body. It's
part of my it's part of who I am. Uh and
this is one of the reasons why when we
go to the trans activists now they they
don't like to talk about souls even
though that is what they they believe as
we've covered. What they will say though
and this is kind of their way of saying
soul. They'll say well you know
sometimes you have a a man that has a
woman's brain and they'll start pointing
to all these studies that allegedly show
that some men have the brains of women.
And this is why I'm, you know, I don't
really care about studies. because I'm
not a big fan of studies. Most of the
time, I know we want to sound like we're
smart and so somebody brings up a study,
we want to throw another study back at
them and you get in kind of a study food
fight. Well, here's a study. I think in
my opinion, 95% of the time when someone
brings up a study, they say, "Well,
haven't you read this study?" I say,
"No, I haven't read it. I know based on
what you just said that it's totally
bogus. I don't even need to read it. I
don't need to read it." Any study that
claims to show that a man has a woman's
brain is completely bogus. I I don't
care if this study was funded with $50
million, they took 70 years, they had
10,000 people, they were doesn't matter
because what's the definition of a man's
brain? It is the brain that is inside
the head of a man. That is by definition
a man's brain.
[Applause]
How did they get so deep in our
institutions, Matt? How did this happen,
Matt? Was it is it as simple as, well,
we were just asleep at the wheel, or is
it something more more than that? I wish
that we that I could say we were asleep
at the wheel because if you fall asleep
at the wheel, it's it's not necessarily
your fault. That's something that
happens accidentally. Uh I think it's
worse than that. I think it was a
deliberate choice. Uh deliberate it was
a surrender. It was a deliberate it was
a waving the white flag. And so to
answer your question and to bring it to
kind of the point of this great event
that I think I mean there there are a
lot of answers to the question of how it
got this deep in our institutions but to
me the number one answer is that there
is one
institution that is supposed to be there
as the vanguard against this kind of
evil and that
institution refused to do its job and
that is the church.
Now, I I can again think back to 2016,
2017, 2020, 2021,
uh being out there kind of in the field
on this issue, fighting this issue out,
whether it's going to schoolboard
meetings or holding rallies or doing
anything. For me, it's making a movie,
just using whatever resources are were
at my disposal to fight back. And I
would look to the left of me, look to
the right of me,
and what I noticed is that I noticed
what was missing, which is that there
were not a lot of Christian leaders
standing there beside me. It it I was
more likely to look over to my side and
see a liberal
feminist standing with me on this issue
than a Christian pastor. And not only
that, but it was in fact
worse that very often if a Christian
pastor were to say anything to me or
about me in relation to this issue, it
was to condemn me for being too rude,
for being too mean. You know, they
didn't like the way that I approached
it. And my answer to them was always,
okay, you don't like my
approach. What's your alternative? What?
Because your approach is nothing. your
approach is to say nothing at
all.
And I I uh I agree with something you
said, Charlie, earlier about, you know,
we talk about the woke churches that
have the rainbow flags and everything
outside. And that's a big problem. That
is an issue. If you have a rainbow in
your church, it better be a part of some
arc display that references Noah's ark.
The rainbow flag is anathema. It is
heresy. and any church that flies it. I
should say it's a church but not for the
Christian religion. So like there's
those kinds of churches and they're not
that's not real. Those are not real
Christian churches. The the bigger
problem has been for a long time
uh the kind of milk toast
lukewarm I don't really want to get
involved. And so you sit in these
churches and you're not going to hear
anything necessarily objectionable.
You're not going to hear anything said
that's wrong. Everything said is maybe
true, but it's what's not being said.
And you
know to to reference something that CS
Lewis actually talked about I think in
uh in in Screw Tape letters he talks
about in multiple works of his how you
know the the we're on a spiritual
battleground. We're on a spiritual
battlefield. And when you go to church
you've got your these are your your
soldiers, right? Who are who are coming
in after being out on the battlefield
for the last six days and they're
bruised and they're broken and they're
beaten. And this is where they're
supposed to hear their marching orders.
This is like let's regroup. Let's let's
talk about our battle plan. Okay, that's
what it should feel like when you're in
church. And and so often, at least in my
experience, and I've been going to
church for uh 38 years. Uh so often it
doesn't feel like that. It it feels
like maybe a meeting with the HR
representative at a Fortune 500 company
or like I'm in middle school talking to
my guidance counselor.
Again, it doesn't feel like this is
someone I'm the pastor and there are
exceptions to this, but so often it
doesn't feel like the pastor is even
living in the same reality as the rest
of us, right?
And so to go back to the trans
thing, this was going on for years. And
I would hear I'm not a pastor. I'm not a
I'm not a I'm not a church leader, but I
would hear from these parents whose kids
are being kidnapped by this ideology.
These kids are being their minds are
being stolen by this. I've heard the
most gut-wrenching stories from parents
who have lost their kids spiritually,
mentally, and sometimes physically. I
mean, their kids fall victim to this,
and two or three years later, their kids
are gone. And you have these parents
that are struggling with this for years
and years, and so many of them are going
to churches and never once hearing it
even referenced. It's like it doesn't
exist. And so, I'm sitting in these
churches, and I'm thinking, are do you
not realize what's going on out there?
Do you not do you not understand what
these people, what us, what we're going
through, what what what actually
matters? I mean, now I'm just ranting. I
could continue, but it's great. Keep
going. Yeah. One of the most offensive
just in this in this vein here, one of
the and I've told this story before, one
of the most offensive uh sermons I ever
heard was years
ago from a pastor, you know, probably a
decent guy. The sermon was about Toy
Story, the movie Toy Story, if you guys
are familiar. It was all about how and
it was a long sermon, too. It was it was
way too long. Uh, and it went on and on
and on about the movie Toy Story and all
the lessons we can learn from Toy Story
because, you know, there are songs in
Toy Story about how we should be
friends. And so, this this was kind of a
a sermon about the value of friendship
and how Buzz Lightyear and Woody, you
know, they didn't like each other at
first, but then they learned how to be
friends by the end of it.
And I'm sitting there and I was a young
parent at the time, you know, two or
three kids and um thinking about all the
things that I and I'm very familiar with
Toy Story. I like the movie actually as
far as kids movies go, but of all the
things that I am worried about, you
know, all the things that matter to me
as a father, as a man, as an American,
and you're sitting there talking about
Toy Story.
I mean thi this is the kind of talk that
I would expect a kindergarten teacher to
give to their cla their students when
they're sitting on an alphabet rug
drinking apple
juice. Um and it's that you know and and
that's one of the worst that I've heard.
So it's not often that bad. But it's not
the wokeness. It's that it's just the
it's nothing. That's nothing. It's the
sin of omission. It is the sin of
silence is that when you are silent,
you're actually saying everything. When
you are silent, you are speaking to your
congregation that what you are omitting
doesn't matter. And that is and so many
pastors unfortunately will escape by be
like, well, I don't mention the
controversial stuff and I so therefore I
stay away from it. That's exactly what
is wrong is that you have to stand up
and be counted there. There is no middle
ground. It's either you're a yes or
you're a no on these very morally
important issues. I have two questions
and I want to go one at a time. If a
pastor in this audience privately a mom
comes up to the pastor and says,
"Pastor, uh, my 13-year-old is a girl
who thinks she is a boy." How should a
pastor in this audience deal with that?
Well, you I I'll start by saying what
even the left would say, but they don't
mean it, which is the way you respond to
that is by loving your daughter. You you
you love her. You never stop loving your
child, but what that means is that you
will never surrender her to this
madness. You will just never do it.
They're going to say they hate you.
They're going to scream at you. They're
going to want to lock themselves in a
room. And you got to go through that.
But you never give into it. You never
you never give into the lie that that
the fact that you've made your daughter
and your child upset means that you
don't love them or you're not loving
them the right way. No, in this case,
the fact that they're upset means that
you are loving them. It means that this
is exactly how you should be responding
on a more practical level. By the way,
if your child is actually struggling
with this, again, they're going to hate
you for this, and that's fine. But you
got to look at what their influences
are. And most likely, if you got a
13-year-old daughter or or son who's
experimenting now with this idea that
he's trapped in the wrong body, almost
certainly he's got the smartphone and
he's on social media. Take the phone
away. Okay? It's not just, oh, we're
going to we're going to limit the amount
of time you spend on it. Take it away. I
got six kids. None of my kids have this
technology. We have we have one my wife
and I have phones. We have one other
screen in the house. It is our family TV
that's in a public area in the house.
There's no doors. We don't have any
screens for kids in a room where a door
can be shut. We don't have
that.
So, you can watch TV. We're going to
know exactly what you're watching and
it's going to be in a place where we can
hear it anywhere in the house where we
go. So, you can't even change the
channel and try to sneak something past
us. And certainly we are not giving them
unfettered access to the internet. And
so take that away from your child. Look
at who their friend groups are. And and
hopefully that will be enough. And then
you might have to resort to even extreme
measures or measures that might seem
extreme. If they're in public school,
you might have to think about do we have
to pull them out of school? Do we have
to homeschool? It sounds crazy and
unworkable. It's not. I do it. You can
do it.
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um you're just doing anything that is
necessary to protect them from this
madness. And I'll add to that, every
pastor here, I encourage you to buy Dr.
Miriam Grossman's book, Lost in
Transnation. She's an actual clinician.
She's not just a
theoretical thinker about this. She
deals and treats kids with gender
dysphoria. Understand? Up until
recently, we had a whole treatment
protocol for this, which was very
simple. It's called watchful waiting. We
believe that puberty was the solution,
not the problem. And usually kids,
usually like 99% of the time, they grow
out of this thing. And understand this,
here are some facts about transgender
ideology when it comes to young people.
75% are
girls.
75%. Why does that matter? Well, girls
are far more likely to get involved in
social contagions, whether it be cutting
practices, whether it be dressing to be
able to accommodate their peers, social
stigmas. They're far more likely to uh
to be pressured by clicks or social
stigmas. Young ladies are in a very
difficult time of their life at 12, 13,
14 years old, and the trans ideology
swoops into them. Fact number two,
there's almost Matt would know this even
better than I would, but according to
Dr. and engrossman. She's almost never
seen a case of a kid that falls victim
of transgender ideology that does not
also have autism or under other
underlying neurode divergent type
disorders. This is very important
everybody. So if you have a kid with
autism, it's a higher likelihood that
they're going to be able to fall victim
to the transgender social contagion.
Number three, which is very important,
if you are a pastor, you need to get on
your hands and knees and pull every
possible thing to prevent a parent from
sending that kid to a medical doctor.
I'm tell I don't care if it's been their
pediatrician since they were six months
old. I 99% of them are being trained in
bad medieval witchery sci witchcraft
science that says that they should go on
hormone blockers. They could be the best
meaning kids possible. the guidelines of
the American Pediatric Association, it
will will take your bre. Am I right on
this, Matt? Absolutely. It will take
your breath away because the mom will
say, "Oh, well, you know, my daughter's
13, but we're going to go see our
pediatrician. She has a whole plan." The
the goal will be hormone blockers and a
psychiatrist. And the psychiatrist
immediately say Lupron intervention,
surgery, eventually no breast by the age
of 16. Not an exaggeration. And that
that pediatrician is schooled to believe
that it is a body disorder when it is a
brain disorder. The final point I'll
make is this is that that first
interaction, Dr. Miriam Grossman crushes
it in her book. That first interaction
means so much. You need to tell the
parent this that you need to ask your
daughter, it's most likely a daughter, a
ton of questions. Really, where'd you
hear about this? When did you start
thinking that? Be infinitely curious
about the condition. The more curious
you are about the condition, all of a
sudden all the defenses start to go
down. All of a sudden, it feels okay.
You're loving them. You're learn. Oh,
really? Are any of your friends thinking
that way? One thing, and Dr. Miriam
Grossman is is uh absolutely fantastic
and she she's also in in our film, what
is a woman? One thing I would add to
that is before you get to that point
where your daughter comes to you at the
age of 13 and says, "I think I'm a boy."
How do we avoid getting to that point?
Because there's the question of what do
you do when that happens? And Miran
Grossman has a great lot of great advice
on that. How do you how do we stop that
from happening if we can? And we've
already gone over some of it. Some of it
is is pretty simple though difficult.
Taking away the phones, taking away
these influences, but at kind of a
deeper level, and it's you won't be able
to do this perfectly,
but you want your children to stay
attached to you. And and and I know we
use that word attached and it sounds
like I'm saying, well, you want to be a
helicopter parent. You don't want your
kids to be able to, you know, function
in the world. That's not what I'm
saying. You want to keep that
attachment, that bond with your child so
that they're orienting themselves to the
world based on you. So they're looking
at you as the adult, as the parent to
figure out how they're supposed to
operate in the world. And that used to
be kind of a given. I mean, for most of
human history, children would orient
themselves to the world by looking at
their parents and then also looking at
their grandparents, looking at their
elders, and that's how they'd figure out
how to just be in the world, how to be a
person, how to be an adult, how to be a
man or a woman. And what ends up
happening in the in the era of public
school and especially now with social
media is that this that bond is severed.
And it's severed sometimes very very
early. And the kids start orienting
themselves to the world by looking at
their
peers. And and when that
happens, now it's like they don't care
what the parent thinks anymore. Now they
it's they they don't want to hear from
the parent. They hate their parents. And
we take that for granted. We say, "Oh,
it's a teenage phase. They just they
hate their parent. Every teenager goes
through this." No, it's it's a phase now
in modern society. It was not a phase
back in 1832. It was it was not taken
for granted that your 14-year-old
daughter would hate you and want nothing
to do with you. It happens now because
our kids are living in a culture that
does everything it can to rip them away
from their parents and from the elders
who love them and know them and care for
them and to put them into this confusing
environment where they're they're
learning about the world by looking to
each other, looking to other people who
are also confused. And so then they're
just going around in circles following
each other. And so to to whatever extent
possible, you know, to to keep that bond
with your kid, to keep them orienting
based, you know, based on you, I think
is a is a big a big way to do it.
Sometimes like in our church youth
groups, we have a lot of kids coming in
that are new that we don't necessarily
have a lot of influence on how they're
parented. Um that have these transgender
ideologies. is like we'll we'll preach
on the stuff um often and frequently,
but sometimes there's still this draw
where you know the kids that have been
raised in the sheltered homes are now
kind of being negatively influenced and
they're listening to the new kids that
are coming in. So I was wondering if you
have a suggestion on how to handle how
to you welcome in all the kids to be
part of your youth group and teach them
about Jesus when they're coming in with
these wrong mindsets and ideologies that
are sometimes contagious. Uh, and do you
have any communication with the parents?
Are you able to talk to their parents at
all? Um, yeah. Yeah, we're able to some.
Like sometimes kids are coming and their
parents aren't really churched and like
don't want to talk much. Like there's a
few of them, but I think most of them we
can talk to the parents. Yeah. I mean, a
lot of this is uh these are are and
maybe, you know, ministering a youth
group, you're not in a position to do
this, but uh a big part of the answer is
that these are parents who need to be
ministered to. These these parents need
a lot of help and a lot of spiritual
guidance. Uh because you're right that,
you know, if they're coming to a youth
group for what I how how long is a youth
how often do they come? Yeah, a couple
hours. A couple hours uh a week. It's
there's only so much you can do. And if
the parents aren't on board or if
they're confused, if they're scared, if
they don't know what to do, um then
you're always going to be pushing
against that. So the parents need to be
ministered to. As for the kids, I mean,
I think all you can do is provide
um an environment with moral and
spiritual clarity. And you know that you
all you can do is just kind of plant
these seeds and hope that they sprout
into something in the future. You know,
you're probably not going to say
something that makes one of these kids
go, "Oh, you're right. You know, this
whole trans stuff is is nonsense."
They're not going to say that in the in
the moment. But if you can provide this
kind of clarity that could be and you
might not see it in a moment but down
the line I think it'll have it'll have
that effect. Thank you. This will be the
last question then we were going to have
uh Jensen close us out. Yeah. Um I know
most of these kids 70% of them are
coming from single parent or homes where
there's no father in the home. How does
the father factor? We know the father
sets the physical DNA of the child and
also the spiritual. How does that play
into your statistics on these children
that are easily transitioned into that
lifestyle? So, I I'd have to check out
that number because it actually
contradicts something that Dr. Gman
wrote about in her book. And it's I'm
not saying you're wrong, but it's
interesting because she actually says
that the the parents that will go as far
as going to surgery are actually overly
hyperinvolved parents at times. In fact,
Matt, I think you would agree that
there's a hyperinvolvement of parents.
And let me tell you why. Because I think
you're right. I think there's two
different categories. I think those that
will see it all the way to youth surgery
for minors versus those that are
susceptible to trans ideology. And
understand emotional blackmail. Parents
are blackmailed by these doctors where
they will say, "Would you rather have an
alive son than a dead daughter?" And it
puts them on a sequence of
interventions. But Matt, do you want to
mention a Yeah. Yeah, I think you're
right, exactly right about that. And,
you know, to your point about the
fatherless fatherless homes that
contributes to every societal problem
that we have. There's no serious
cultural issue or societal issue that we
can talk about coherently without
acknowledging the fact that so many kids
are growing up in homes without fathers.
And I talk about it all the time with so
many other issues. probably should be
talked about more on this particular
issue as you point out because you know
one thing that I know as a father and in
particular with my sons it's very
obvious when you're a father of young
boys that they are looking to you like
literally looking to you all the time
just to figure out what what being a boy
means like what what am I supposed to do
as as a boy I have all this uh energy
all of this you know all of this kind of
masculine and energy and and and and
everything this aggressiveness. I don't
know what to do with it. I don't know
where where I'm supposed to direct that.
And uh that's why you need a father
there to show them. It's not just
telling them, but actually showing them
how to apply that stuff. And I think if
kids don't have that, they don't have
both the father and the mother showing
them, father showing you this is what it
means to be a man, mother, this is what
it means to be a woman, uh then a lot of
this confusion arises. Thank you. Uh
guys, in closing here, I encourage my
mar my final marching order before I
depart um because I know you guys are
gonna have a great couple days. Take
some of this and bring it back to your
churches. Take what you're hearing from
Matt Walsh. Even if it's like, "Hey
guys, my sermon, let's play a 90 second
clip of Matt Walsh on something." Matt,
God bless you, man. Give it up for Matt
Walsh, everybody. Thank you guys.