All right, you guys. Shabbat shalom. Mommy stayed home for the first time, I might add. Ladies and gentlemen, congratulations, Derek Kirk. I gotta tell you, I am getting too old for this. I'm being serious. How old am I getting? My birthday is coming up in a couple of weeks. And this morning, I was having the team help me pick out a microscope that I want as a present because I'm I'm in my dweebing out era. I'm suddenly interested in DNA and cells and I'm watching Tik Toks from phabbotomists. Like, why do we have to go to the doctor for everything? Can I figure this out with the microscope? That's how old I'm getting. Too old to have to take time out of my precious day to work through the latest turning point public relations blunder. Blunder after blunder, lie after lie. They treat us like we are toddlers. They want us to make believe. Yesterday, Erica no showed an event last minute. An event featuring the vice president of the United States. How disrespectful. Well, not as disrespectful as the excuse that they are currently handing us as to why. Plus, uh, Victor Marx, Pastor Victor Marks, have some respect. He replied to me and to be honest, the response was kind of weird. It's just weird. I can't explain it. I'll let you guys be the judge. Welcome back to Candace. So last night, in case you missed it, in case you've been hiding under a rock, Erica Kirk was slated to appear alongside her friend, Vice President JD Vance, at the University of Georgia, and she just completely no showed it. She stood him up. That is not casual. That is the sitting vice president of the United States. It is low-key disrespectful outside of a real emergency. Emphasis on the word real. It was mystifying at first really, especially since the decision very clearly had to have been made. We were left to assume that it had been made in the teenth hour because the announcement was made by none other than than Andrew Kovette on stage. This means that ticket holders were not informed until the very moment of the event. Actually, the Turning Point leaders who put together the event were not informed that she was not going to be there. How do we know? Because they were posting and promoting her appearance just 50 minutes before doors opened. Here is a video of the TPUSA staff promoting her. Take a listen. >> Hey everybody, my name is Grant Tyler. I'm the field representative for the Peach Territory and also the University of Georgia. >> And I'm Caroline and I'm the University of Georgia chapter president. >> And we are here at the Akens Ford Arena about to host JD Vance and Erica Kirk. >> Doors open at 1:50, so come out and support your country. >> We'll see you there. >> They look sweet and happy and clearly not informed of what was going on. So, if the story that they are going to sell to us that there's a threat, uh, then we we have to assume Erica was on the ground, right? On the ground in Georgia, something happened and she pulled out, but she wasn't. She was back home, which means that decision had to have already been made long before those students made that video. Yet, Andrew Kovette is going to, as you are about to see last minute on stage, inform and surprise even the event planners with this message. Take a listen. >> For those of you wondering why uh I don't have really flowing long blonde hair right now. >> Um so I'm going to address it right at the front. Uh Mr. Vice President, I'm on stage here instead of our friend Erica Kirk. >> That's right. >> Um because unfortunately she has received some very serious threats in her direction which is terrible. It's a terrible reflection on the state of reality and the state of the country. But it underscores a larger point that she has received a lot of attacks um from s surprising places perhaps. Tell us what you think about that. Some of the people that have made you know part-time jobs out of attacking Erica and this is the net result. >> Oh my is the implication here that it's our fault. Is it my fault? Why do I feel like they're talking about me? Is that weird? Uh uh. She's not here. And come on, Vep. Come on. Explain to everybody how it's actually Candace Owens's fault because she's being attacked more broadly speaking. What do I have to do with her going to an event? And by the way, this is weird, but I told you guys I'm aging. I am so old that I distinctly remember when the messaging was the exact opposite. They were sort of gaslighting us the other way. Remember right after Charlie was assassinated, a lot of people were like, "Look, um, she's doing a lot. She's kind of just like doing a lot. Like I would be pretty scared." Most of us, even people who didn't know Charlie were scared to go out their door. The world felt less safe. But his wife was just fearlessly trotting through all these events, attending, speaking, massive uh, sold out 21,000 spillover crowd at State Farm Stadium. And the PR machine was like, "Oh, you notice that she's doing a lot." Well, let let us explain to you why she has no fear. Let me explain to you why she's she's abnormal. She's just she's just sits above you all. In fact, Erica Kirk herself jumped in and this was the reason that we were given via her interview with Jesse Waters. Take a listen. >> Do you feel safe? >> I do. What are they going to threaten me with? going to heaven sooner to be with my husband. And I don't say that to be reckless. I do not I do not say that because I'm out in the streets like here I am. Come find me. And that's not at all. It's it's it's a fearlessness that's rooted in the understanding that I will have my day and my time whenever that is when the Lord knows that it's I've completed my my mission. And I'm not afraid. Charlie wasn't afraid either. We never lived in fear. If we did, we wouldn't get anything done. And I can't help run alongside this mission of Turning Point USA and raise my babies with fear. I can't. That's not a life to live for anybody. So that was in her godlier than thou era, right? When we had, like I said, normal concerns like, "Hey, wouldn't you be kind of scared for your kids? You're doing a lot right." No. Erica is on fire for the Lord. And that's why you don't understand it. It's supernatural because the Lord is giving her this courage. So, I'm just asking the common sense question. What changed seven months on? What was the threat that Erica endured that was so severe seven months later that she had to last minute cancel an event with the number two man of this great nation? What threat could be so severe that she didn't even trust that the Secret Service, right, the nation's secret service to the vice president, he just got back doing negotiations with Iran overseas. Has got to be a pretty good secret service. She did not feel that even they could alleviate it. Well, we can always rely on Andrew Kovat to further illuminate matters on Fox News. Take a listen. >> It was a really unfortunate uh experience for me, too, just to have to watch that very difficult decision get made, which I think is the first time that we've ever had to make that decision in Turning Point history. But everything that happened with Charlie, obviously his assassination, we're still, you know, grieving that. And you saw what happened with Savannah Hernandez, one of our TPSA front lines reporters in Minneapolis. And to see the security team, you know, tell us, "We cannot guarantee your safety. We recommend that you don't do this." uh was a really chilling moment uh for all of us to kind of have to internalize and experience and realize that Erica Kirk is you know her children are one parent away from being orphans and sometimes you just have to say listen right now what's most important is your safety is your security and your children your family let your team handle this let us do what we can do and so you know I obviously was horrified at the reason why but I was honored to stand in and pinch hint for Erica last night >> and I was grateful for the vice president to um that we didn't have to ultimately cancel the entire event. He was willing to do it with me and it was very gracious of it. >> I'm sorry guys. I'm just getting whiplash. I I really I just I feel like that's what we were saying. Like what could be more important than being home with your children when she was just all on the book tour and she bought and we were just told no, she's a brave soul. this is what she was to do and she want the worst thing was she she would be reunited with Charlie and now it's so bad that it's requiring a level of Hasbra, right? They're even going to bring in their Hasbro friends over at the Daily Wire to further substantiate the matter because people are going, "This feels weird. What could be so much of a threat that they just let the VP, Vice President United States carry on with the event? People are noticing this doesn't sound right to us." And so since Charlie's passing, the Daily Wire, you will note, always has the inside scoop on what's going on with Erica Kirk for some reason. And here is what they said on Twitter. They said, uh, regarding the threats of Erica, threats to Erica Kirk that prevented her from attending today's events with Vice President Vance. A TPUSA official tells me that their security had been monitoring the situation in the days leading up to today's event. People were doxing her travel location and trying to track her arrival and departure, I'm told, and there were multiple direct threats against Erica specifically. This ultimately led to her security's assessment that they could not guarantee her safety. The event venue itself was fine, especially once VP was on site, but it was the travel portion that was the chief concern. The official tells the Daily Wire, her children are one parent away from being orphans, and so we take the securityities, assessments, and advice seriously. Okay, so a couple things right off the bat wrong with that. Um, Erica now worried about her kids. Yeah. Okay. Uh, this feels like a level of propaganda that they have not hit before. Uh, you're also telling us now because you're realizing they're always responding when the public doesn't accept the, you know, the first sloppy meal that they try to feel feed us. They're like, "Okay, no, okay. You're right. It doesn't make sense that the VP would be able to attend this event and Erica would not. So, let's switch gears. We'll say it was related to travel that people were tracking her plane." Um, okay. People had been actually tracking Erica's plane since the very beginning. People were doing entire shows about where she was going and how much she was traveling and how ridiculous it was. And she never canled a single thing. So, that's just on its face, not true. Secondly, um if you're going to be a person who is a public figure and you are going to travel privately as she does, then yeah, people are going to be able to easily guess which which airports you're going to which private terminals you're going to fly into. They're not going to know which FBO, but you're telling me what is the threat? What could possibly be the threat to her travel? She flies in and she flies out on a private plane that they just could not alleviate it. What What did they threat? We're going to be at the FBO. We'll be at every FBO. We'll be at Signature. We're going to be at Atlantic. We will be there and we are going to boo you. What is the What is the threat? Tell us more about this threat which was specifically taking place with doxing her travel schedule. What does that even mean? Her event is listed publicly. People buy tickets or I guess not buy tickets, but they register their tickets to go to these events for free. So, you're you're doxing yourself in order to be a public figure that goes on a tour, right? If you're a singer, a songwriter, you got to say where you're going. You're doxing yourself, but someone's tracking your plane. Well, what is the concern there? That could not be alleviated. You couldn't have somebody on the ground just waiting there to make sure nobody was inside the private terminal. By the way, this this woman does not fly publicly. Yeah, like I said, it had to have been something bad. I'm not buying this plane tracking excuse. It seems to me, especially they're mentioning the kids now. Every time they do that, that's that they're basically using every tool that is not even available in Erica's emotional shed. So, what actually happened? Let me back up here and give you some facts about the University of Georgia. There are over 43,000 students that are enrolled at the University of Georgia. Uh, this event was, as you heard him say, scheduled to take place at the Akens Ford Arena, uh, at the Classic Center, which is near the University of Georgia. The stadium holds just 7,000 people. So, they were hoping with an announcement that the vice president of the United States was going to be attending that it was a guarantee that they would be able to peel off something like 15% of the student body to attend. But actually, they needed even less than that because to make matters easier for them, they also opened the tickets, the free tickets to the general public. So, forget having to get you 15% of the student body to sign up. They just needed generally 7,000 people in the area that wanted to support MAGA and or the rockar widow Erica Kirk. Reality, nobody wanted to attend. The ticket numbers were abysmal. That is what happens. And I want you to know that that is what has been happening. So in the upteenth hour, they decided to cancel her appearance. And here is the evidence of uh what that event looked like looked like. Here's a tweet with an accompanying clip which was taken from reporter Jake Trailer who is reporter with MS Now. Uh take a look at this tweet and the accompanying video of the auditorium. He wrote, "Turning point USA seems to have misestimated crowd size for Vance. The Akens Ford Arena less than 25% filled for the vice president." Now he's assuming it's because of Vance, right, that people are not showing. uh could be another reason a person who was supposed to be there until the eenth hour people could be turning down that particular opportunity and I'm sure everything Vance and Trump are doing at this current moment isn't helping much either. In fact, it was so bad, right? The the turnout was so bad that if we go back and rewatch that Fox News clip, they're actually showing you fake footage. Well, it's not fake footage. real footage, but it's fake B-roll because it's from old Turning Point events. This is how sloppy the Hasbro is. We'll show you this. We'll scroll here, not the venue. Not the venue. And yet, in the corner, it says Andrew Kovette via X on Tuesday because it says it says Athens, Georgia. This is not true. This is true propaganda. and we took a closer look at it and they actually spliced together three separate events so that they could show something of substance when Andrew spoke. That is humiliating. That is humiliating. And he's there pitching a story, a sad story about why they couldn't do it because uh it's your guy's fault. You didn't keep Erica safe. Now, I am told by Turning Point USA College students and volunteers that this has been a repeat problem that they similarly had a very hard time uh moving tickets for her event in Washington DC with Caroline Levit. They just could not hit capacity. They never did despite effectively turning these events. They're not I don't even know why it's called a college tour anymore. Just anybody in the public, general admission, that is willing to come listen to Erica Kirk speak for free, please come. They're going to eventually start paying people to attend these events. And they cannot sell out to even a small auditorium. And yesterday, it looks like was the worst audience turnout in Turning Point's history. Okay, let me repeat that. Under Erica Kirk's stewardship, Turning Point USA is now facing a crisis. It is the worst turnout in the organization's history, even with a feature alongside the vice president of the United States. Similarly, they had to move the believers summit, something that they advertised for last year. It was slated to take place uh back in October, but they could not move any free tickets. Erica knew that she was not coming long before Andrew Kovette made the announcement on stage. Yet she did not make a statement herself until after the event began. What gives? Here's what she wrote on X. She retweeted uh a clip from the event and she wrote this. I was so looking forward to tonight's event at the University of Georgia with our vice president. But after all our family has been through, I take my security team's recommendations extremely seriously. Thank you to our amazing Georgia chapter for your support. God bless you all. I I I I can't stand the lying, the constant lying, and she is not being honest. Okay, she she moves things off of her calendar. She will make it work. I White House here over the weekend. She was at Betina Betina at Mara Lago, the one who's marrying Don Trump Jr., she was at her bridal shower. Erica will be wherever it is that she needs to be. That is not the reason that she chose not to show up. And how do we know that this was not some lastminut cancellation related to a threat? Well, first off, common sense. I knew they were lying as soon as Andrew announced it on stage. Take it from someone who has endured a great many threats. The last thing you do is announce a threat on stage when one is happening. In fact, I have dealt with threats at Turning Point USA events where we have had to inform them this guy who was completely insane and escaped a mental institution or he a mental hold and they didn't know where he was. They alerted us and I was doing an event in Nashville with Charlie. We had to alert the security team. Nobody goes out and says, "Hey, Candace has a threat. That's why she's not here." And you know what? Would you like to JD? Let me give you the stage to blame everybody for her having this threat. That is so performative and outlandish that I instantly knew that it didn't pass the sniff test. But another way that we can confirm that we know this is not real and they're making this up is because Erica was also slated to speak yesterday at 1:30 p.m. in Georgia at a local high school. But she canled that event and she didn't cancel it last second. She canled it the day before on Monday. Okay, so Tuesday, yesterday, she has a 1:30 event and then she has an evening event with JD Vance. But on Monday at noon, she had already informed the high school that she was not going to be in attendance a full day before her last minute onstage cancellation of her event with JD that the students did not even know about. So she honored the high school students with information but did not honor the college students with any information, making them look like fools outside. Okay. And they how did they do it? They emailed and they texted and informed the parents at school uh that her appearance had been cancelled and they gave a reason and that reason was not security. Let's read it together. Here is the text that went out canceling the high school event. It reads first you can see they set this event up on March 30th. On Monday you can see that it reads parent alert due to scheduling complications. The optional Turning Point USA high school event scheduled for tomorrow, September 14th, has been cancelled. We are sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused and are hopeful for other Turning Point USA opportunities in the future. Okay, a scheduling conflict. A scheduling conflict, not a threat, but a scheduling conflict. Now, if there were a viable threat, wouldn't it have been prudent to inform the administration of a high school? Even if it was an airplane related threat that oh, it must be if it's so serious like someone's going to harm her, you tell the high school, hey, we have a very viable threat right now. We don't want to bring this to you. They were not informed that. They were just told it was a scheduling issue and there was not some significant thing that was pending in the background um which caused her to abandon her previous God's got me philosophy. So like I said don't you think her staff would have let the high schoolers know if there was a threat? That would have been the responsible thing to do. I am told the truth is again that there was immediate parental backlash already that kept happening because she was announced and they basically said okay this is an optional event. They then ended up that there was going to be abysmal attendance meaning nothing that they could record on social media to make it look like she's you know got the crowd going crazy and so it was nothing for her to look forward to and so she skipped it. This keeps happening. Parents and students are organizing against her for a variety of reasons. some of them, those reasons that we have laid out on this show, they do not trust her. They do not believe her. And I can give you provide more proof for you uh by way of a parental chat on Facebook that is currently going on right now regarding another event that she has coming up at a high school in Phoenix, right in her backyard, no less. And this is a Pinnacle High School. The parents are organizing. Take a look at this chat. Uh this is a parent that posted saying I am very concerned learning that Erica Kirk is going to be speaking and then you can see an anonymous member wrote below as as a teacher I find this highly inappropriate inappropriate and a safety risk to our students and staff. Also as a teacher I know the district may care more about attendance more than anything else. So call your kids out of school and that will send a message. They are basically 36 likes. They are organizing essentially a walk out, a boycott of Erica Kirk. Okay, I haven't reported on this stuff in the past. I've been very aware of this is going on. The reason why I am now laying this out today is because what enrages me so much about the messaging, the setup there by Andrew Kovette is that it is akin to narcissistic abuse. They can never admit that they have failed or that they have done anything wrong. So what do they do? They tell the public that it's our fault. It's your fault. This wouldn't happen. This wouldn't happen if you guys would just stop criticizing her. That's completely psychopathic. We don't accept that. We reject that. Okay? No one does this. People cancel events last minute for a variety of reasons. He got drunk last night. He's hung over. Their PR comes out, makes an excuse. He had a mental breakdown backstage. We've seen a lot, especially in the land of rock and roll. Oh, I lost my throat. I lost my voice. I won't be able to sing tonight. Probably was partying. I want you to actually go through your mind of all the famous people that you know who have canceled events last minute. When do you ever recall management coming out with messaging that implies that actually it's your fault. It's the public's fault. You didn't keep this person safe. They couldn't come out tonight because you failed this person. Well, that's exactly what the messaging was and you should be infuriated about it. It is ridiculous. They are now paying influencers. Oh, if only everyone would just leave her alone. No one would track her plane. What? Do you not think people are tracking JD Vance? Elon Musk took his notoriously off of something. Taylor Swift. People get their planes tracked all the time. By the way, there's no remedy for that situation. What's the future remedy? We're just not going to announce when we're just going to pop up and surprise people. The messaging was crappy. I'm so sick of there never being an adult in the room that will just come out and say as a leader would, you know what, ticket attendance wasn't great. Um, we want to remedy that in the future. We want to figure out what we can do, changes we can make so that we can establish Erica as the new leader of Turning Point USA. You know, they're still getting to know her. That's responsible messaging. But these guys, it's your fault. And shame on JD Vance uh for taking the bait on that in response to Andrew Kovat's questioning. He's gonna lecture us. He's gonna come in and he's gonna lecture us. Take a listen to what JD Vance has to say. >> Again, if your instinct is to go after not the left-wing radicals who are assaulting Savannah or not the people who shot Charlie Kirk, but if your instinct is to go after a a young mother because she's grieving in a way that you find in a you you find wrong, well, why don't you stay in your lane and mind your own business? Amen. >> Grief is complicated. And I just >> this is complicated. >> And I you know so there's there's another angle of this Andrew which is just so absurd which is that you know pe people will say that you know Erica you know she she's she's been doing this or she's been doing that and I would be doing something different and it's like first of all that's fine. Like if if you want to criticize somebody because you have a disagreement disagree with my politics. disagree with something that Erica or Andrew say on the Turning Point uh podcast, >> but this desire to go after her for the way she's she's grieving her husband, that's the most preposterous thing I've seen in a very long time. And I've seen a lot of crazy stuff in politics. >> Okay, first off, we do criticize them all the time for what they say on the podcast. The whole public has been doing that actually since everything happened. Please stop saying this repeat phrase that everyone grieavves differently. It doesn't matter how many times you say it. Doesn't make it true. Okay. You can't just say stuff. Everybody grieavves differently. Yeah. No, for sure. Everyone that I know does. No one. That's why it stands out to people and people go, "This is strange. Most people would fear going out. They would want to be closer to their kids. Stop trying to constantly feed us this slop." But the the audacity to say something like he just said, he said that it was the most preposterous thing that he has seen in politics in a very long time. people criticizing Aker Kirk. That's the most preposterous thing he's seen in politics in a very long time. Disagreeing with the new CEO and chairman. This is not just a widow. This is the new CEO and chairman of TPUSA. A position that she did not earn. Nothing that she has done warrant her being in that position. Uh and that to him is like, woo, I can't believe people are doing this. I've seen some preposterous things just over the last few weeks in politics that should probably rank higher on your list. Okay. Like when you guys blew up that school, 150 Iranian school girls were killed and then you lied about it. That to me feels a little more preposterous. I mean, was not just even two days ago that Trump said that he thought Jesus was a Red Cross doctor. That was a little preposterous. Y'all out here lying about things? I don't know. The Epstein files, did you have time to go through that, Mr. Vice President? Nothing in there ranked more preposterous for you than us criticizing Erica Kirk. How about Trump just generally attacking a pope because he's calling for peace? How about Trump saying that Breijit Mcronone is hot? That was pretty preposterous that she's got it. It's not even close. The literal ticket you guys ran on was calling for peace. Now you're attacking the Pope or Trump is attacking the Pope because he's calling for peace. That feels pretty preposterous. Going to war with the explicit aim of opening the straight of Hormuse, which was already opened before you began the war, is pretty preposterous. Gas prices right now are pretty preposterous. Us criticizing a grieving widow who can't keep her story straight about anything. No, that's not that's not even that shouldn't even hit your radar. So, please do not lecture us, JD. Do not. Okay. The lecture that is coming from you is exactly why we don't like Erica because we see it for exactly what it is. It's elite. She has money and connections. She can call Vice President JD Vance. She can get uh the Secretary Scott Bessence to issue a letter on demand demanding you stop looking into their finances. She can get Trump to say how much Charlie loved her in his Easter speech. It's the balcony approach that makes us sick. We feel it. you guys looking down in the crowd like we're animals and you're somehow more dignified. Okay, Mr. Vice President, respectfully, our friends aren't in the Epstein files. And um I have enough common sense to know that the reason we referred to it as common sense is because it's shared amongst the commoners, us, the majority. And right now, the left and the right, the internet, we have correctly identified the nature of your friend Erica Kirk. So please, I beg of you, we are 7 months into this thing. Please do not give us more bed slop. We have had our fill. And if it is truly your desire to transform hearts and minds about Erica, might I very humbly suggest that you start with a story that makes sense about September 10th. What happened? One that doesn't feature magical bullets and Superman necks and that write out entire confessions in the spirit of a Jane Austin novel. I love one which doesn't feature uh company employees who witnessed the shooting and for some incomprehensible reason neglect to call 911, but instead rush to remove cameras within minutes. That would be my advice. Rather than lecturing us from a balcony, string together a coherent story and a timeline for the commoners, please and thank you. Anyway, moving on from that on to some other things that are happening behind the scenes. Essentially, Turning Point is now just in the business of creating an illusion. And by an illusion, I mean that even when they are posting events of her being greeted at events with like, you know, thunderous applause behind the scenes, you should know that middle schoolers and high schoolers are being forced in some scenarios to sit in these events. It's mandatory. Okay? They have no option. So remember when you went to school and there was assembly, when you had to go to assembly in the middle of the day, that is the state of affairs at Turning Point USA. They are the administration. It's an assembly. Surprise. Erica Kirk is here and they're like, "Look, the room the auditorium is filled." Like, I guess to be to keep it real, if I was in high school, I was really bad at chemistry. If he offered like, you know, five extra points and was like, "I like you can bring up this this really bad grade that you got if you go sit with Erica Kirk in the assembly right now or after school." No, I still wouldn't do it, but I'd think about it. I'd think about it. I don't wish them bad. I just wish them truth. I want them all to stop lying about everything and anything and thinking that a JD Vance or a sprinkle of Trump is going to change things. Please stop abusing the public with lies. And um already since more things are leaking, Andrew is commuting the story. Right. Yesterday it was this is happening because of the people back at home. Now he knows stuff is coming out about the high school event that was canceled on Monday, but he's trying to fit it into this puzzle. Um trying to make it work somehow that he announced it on stage suddenly that Erica wouldn't be attending. Um and here he is on Charlie Kirk's show this morning with their latest excuse that's dropping. Take a listen. Obviously, the big part of the news was that Erica was uh she canled her appearance at that because of security threats uh that were made against her. It was something we were, you know, monitoring for days before the event. We actually had a high school event that was planned to be before the college event in the area that we had to cancel a few days before because of the increased online chatter that we were monitoring, our security team, I should say, was monitoring. And so we thought, you know, we got the Secret Service, everything should be fine at the main event. But what ended up happening, uh, and I have to be somewhat careful here because the security um, our security team does, you know, obviously wants to be a little bit, uh, circumspect in the way that we talk about this because we don't want to give the bad guys any more ideas. But it was a situation where they were trying to dox her travel and monitor her travel, suggesting different ways to that people could attack her. And it was like something we were actively trying to navigate and change itineraries, move locations. Nobody wants to live that way. Um it was a terrible experience in many many ways and I feel terrible for Erica. And ultimately, you know, when you're in that moment and the security team looks at you and says, "We can't guarantee your safety." At some point, you just have to say, "There's we'll do this a different way." Tough job, Andrew. It It's truly a tough job that Andrew Kovette has. I just just gota keep up with the crowd and pivot the stories, try to make it make sense. The plane, there was a threat. You know, we tried to move the FBO into charter a different plane. We don't know the tail number. You don't have a tail number. What were they sharing? I was just like, what are you talking? You guys have multiple planes running USA. Oh, it just was a threat. We just can't tell you too much. We can't tell you even though we announced it on stage, we know that people are asking for more. We just we just want to honor the security and these threats are very serious. And that's why when Charlie multiple times texted me on the security team day before saying he thought he was going to be killed, we don't like to talk about that. We don't talk about that threat. That threat we we don't want to talk about this one. We want you to know it's your fault. So don't criticize Erica. Um yeah, emotionally manipulative, narcissistic. We do not. I reject this and you should too. Anyway, we are going to be back after a brief break with an update regarding Pastor Victor Marx. He responded um and it's interesting. We'll be right back. All right, you guys. You know, I love Nimi Skincare. A lot of people are starting to look for more natural skin care options, especially with ingredients like tallow. But not all Tallow products are the same, and some can feel heavy, greasy, or just sit on your skin without actually helping it. 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We a lot of editorial decisions had to be made because there was just so much there was just so much to choose from. And I want to be clear, the information that we got about his biography that came from Victor Marx. We could have put together tons of clips. He tells his story many times, many ways. and we just were like, "Okay, let's try to reduce this to the facts about his life, who his father was, who his stepdaddy was, the things that he has said." And um we we didn't even include the stuff going on with his family, his daughter. Um very public back forth that went on where she was accusing him of abuse and um there's a lot of that. And then she retracted her statement after they began speaking again and okay, we were like, "Okay, we don't need to include that. We didn't include the young woman who alleges that Victor Marx kidnapped her from Canada. She's the people had her on the shows and she discussed how she was kidnapped. But there was a lot going on with Pastor Victor Marks. I think it is fair to suggest that he has a checkered background and we have never received more emails and more tips about anyone. Actually um in our tips inbox it was a recurring theme. You need to look into Victor Marks. Victor Marks. Victor Marks. Victor Marks allegedly was the first person who announced that Charlie Kirk had died and then he deleted that post. I remember that um from all of the things that were happening. It was like why did Victor Marks announce it first and then he deleted that post. So yeah, we I think we did a good job kind of sizing it down to the relevant portions of what these pastors seem to get up to. I don't even know where he pastors. Where is he a pastor at? Think that was one of the the points that was raised by Corby Hall. It's like I realized he doesn't have a church. I don't know why he says he's a pastor. Um and I don't know why Erica can't make normal friends. None of my friends had these sorts of backgrounds and um they're not the people that I would want to see in the event of an emergency. But like JD said, she'd be grieving differently, y'all. She'd be grieving differently. Anyway, so Victor Marx clearly saw my episode very quickly and he took to both his Instagram and X to issue a very quick response. Weird. It's weird. Let me know if you think it's weird. This is This is what he said. >> Well, all righty then. Love you, Candace. Let me know when you want me to come on the show. Praying for you. Okay, but like why do the glasses have to come off? Why do we have to go all like Clark Ken about it? All righty then. Give it to me again. All righty then. Give it to me one more time. I I got to watch that again. >> Well, all righty then. >> Okay. Can you like can we get a DJ booth booth going where we just like get these sounds that we like? That's a bite. That's a bite. I just need to have that little whenever I'm feeling well. All righty then. Anyway, I don't know what the point of that was. And he then published, oh, I've been accused or in this episode, this is what she suggested. Buddy, you can't be accused of what you're telling us your bio is. Now, I read Corby Hall statement in its entirety. Flushed out what he had to say. Felt like he was a very honest person. And again, he was ready to come on the show and discuss everything, bring all of his evidence. So, I I my instincts are usually right about people. And my instincts about you were that I don't know. You had supplements that you were doing with David Harris. David Harris calls God Papa. I don't know. And he like you guys said that like proceed the supplements were going to help human sex trafficking victims. It's too much. It's just too much. Okay. My my senses my Spidey senses say no good. Anyways, I obviously responded instantly. I I wrote this beneath the post. we are actually going to have Corby Hall of F AR on and he is game to do the show with you. I am happy to have you both on if you agree. And Corby Hall said, "Yeah, I'm good. Let's do this." He actually suggested it. Corby Hall, he said because he saw the post first and said, "I would 100% do this face to face. Like he he's very serious about what this man did to him and like I said, he has all the evidence. So it wouldn't make sense for me." I I couldn't rebut anything that Victor Mark said about Fold. We were already going to have Corby. Let's make this happen. And so to because I wanted to make sure that we could establish uh a date, I instantly then reached out privately. I will show you guys that. Um I wrote, "Hi Victor, give me the best number. We would love to set it up. Corby Hall is completely game to join. Best to have him there since I read his letter and he has the proof, etc. of what you wanted from him plus the prayer that you prayed over him." We have up until we hit go on today's episode not heard back from him. I don't even see that it's read. He may not he may not have red receipts on, but I obviously responded exactly where he posted the video. We will keep you posted. And I am totally game and very interested. Finally, we got one of these pastors on the hook. I want to reel him in. I want to reel him in and talk about his relationship with Turning Point USA, how he got found as a pastor. Calvary, what goes on uh near that military base. I I it feels to me like a whole military operation. I'm going to be honest. We've done episodes. We have done uh our due diligence on Calvary Chapel as a whole. I find it to be problematic, but that's my opinion. I'm allowed to have it. Anyway, I wanted to let you know that we then were hit with another wave. People emailing us from Turning Point USA inside and outside. I love this. Just so you know, we have people that are saying that they will get jobs at Turning Point USA just to give us information from the inside. We have people volunteer. They're like, I am going on an interview. I reply. They want me in. I will be I will be a mole. Like that is how the world feels. They are willing to go to work uh to get information. It makes me happy and it makes me smile because that is the influence that Charlie Kirk had. Like that's incredible that people are willing to do that for him. Anyway, people are still on the inside and and people who were fired also informed me that yeah, no, there's other people that have trafficking history that are involved with Turning Point USA. And in particular, uh, there is someone who openly discusses the fact that he used to traffic arms. I'll say allegedly, but this is apparently something he's very open about around the office. He's very close with Andrew Kovette. That's what I am told by again both current and former Turning Point US to Turning Point USA employees. His name is Marcus Wada. Okay, here is his bio from Turning Point's website, which is interesting to me already. He's a senior productions director. Marcus Wada is the director of strategy of productions at Turning Point USA. Marcus has spent a decade in film and television production, working on films that were internationally distributed and television shows such as Miss Universe. Okay, that's a connection there. Marcus worked to raise financing for films and producing films. He left Hollywood to work in the conservative movement producing and directing Turning Point USA's documentary series Border Battle and The Great Global Reset. Well, apparently he also, which I wouldn't put it in my bio to to be fair, regularly tells people his testimony about how he was involved in trafficking arms in Poland. Poland, where are you at? I saw you in the chat. Someone said, "Watching from Poland." And I said, "Ooh, you guys are getting name dropped today." So, yeah, he used to be involved with trafficking in Poland. But then, as the story always goes, he found God. I am just so pleased to hear it. I'm so pleased to hear it that so many people involved with Turning Point are able to find God. Uh Turning Point USA is out here, I guess, just finding employees and partners in a manner that is it is unique. It is unique. I would say it's it's like a messomia commercial. Were you or someone you know involved in trafficking? Give us a call today. There may be a place for you in our faith department vibes. Right. So then I found out via these employees that Marcus Wada also says that his brother is still involved in the game somehow in the industry in some way. Is it charitably? Is there a difference? I can't be sure at this point. Anyway, I did end up finding the guy. I'm proddding that narrative. There seems to be something there. I'm assuming it must be a half brother because he has a different last name and this guy's got is Jewish. Um and he runs a consulting company that consults in human trafficking. What can I say? It's a big industry. You guys, and I want to be clear, these people are not involved in the trafficking. They are charitable and want to alleviate this global circumstance. And these people also, you know, have histories, but they it I don't know, guys. You can I didn't know I didn't know you could consult in those things. I thought the website was made up. I was like, what what does this mean? You're a consulting in drugs and look at this industry areas. National border security, money laundering, human trafficking, sex trafficking, firearms and ammunition. This is brother controlled substances. Okay. What does it mean to consult in it? How do you consult in it? I don't know, guys. I don't know. I'm like, I'm an old dog that can't learn a new trick. That's my problem. But I am good at spreadsheets. Not so great at Excel, but I know how to put together a timeline and spreadsheets and to organize. You guys should see my pantry. It is ridiculously organized. Okay. And I did put together, you guys saw this earlier, the connecting themes spreadsheet because we kept seeing these recurring themes. And I did not use Excel as it should be used, but I did put together these columns and it's it's the trafficking and sex abuse. I should write charity to make that clear. Uh it's getting pretty long. You know, Derek and Chellain Maxfield, that was that plane that left and went to Paige, Arizona that day. They run a child abuse charity um a trafficking charity uh Sapria Colonel Otto Busher obviously the Romanian instance with Erica all surrounding what happened at the military base and he worked with Romanian Angels which was her charity uh the civilian commander stationed at Fort Wuka charged with running a child sex abuse ring turning point USA faith Greg Lorie uh whose church Erica went right on tour with him Harvest Church is currently being accused of trafficking ch children from Romania. Okay, they are fine with that partnership. George Zinn, our decoy boy, was arrested for having pornographic images of children on his phone. Andrew Pascadlo, uh that was the person who was detained that day, uh works to ring the alarm on military Ukrainian sex trafficking in the United States. Calvary Chapel Church is obviously riddled with pastor abuse stories. That's an aside, Rob McCoy aside. Glenn Beck, Tim Ballard, that's Operation Underground. Tim Ballard. Um his name come in the mix early on as someone who was being met with that day. Um Erica Kirk lived in China or in the days that follow rather if I remember correctly. Erica Kirk says that she lived in China and worked with child sex trafficking victims but she's mum on that now. Tight lift does not want to talk about what charity that was. No one seems to be able to find on the internet. We know she was living in was it Chong King? Am I saying that right? To Chong King. I think it's spelled Chong King. Maybe it said Chongqing. Uh, that's interesting. The TPUSA adviser, Paul Vali, retired Army general who ran psychological operations and co-wrote the book with Michael Aino, the Satanist and founder of the Temple of Set. I didn't know Satanism had a great schism, but they did. Some people thought that Satan was an idea. Some people thought that he was a real person. And so, the Temple of Set was born out of Satanism. So you guys know if you're not up on your Satanist theology. Anyways, not a bar for entry as an adviser to Turning Point USA. He was accused, I'm referring to Michael Aino, was accused of abusing children at Army Child Development Centers. Victor Marks, as we learned, runs a charity for child sex abuse. I we got to add his his pills, too, with the What are the pills, man, that he's doing with David J. Harris that a portion goes to help sex trafficking victims? Nell debuckman, the number one donor to Turning Point USA, is extensively involved in rescuing children that are being sexually abused and trafficked. Uh the backstory that she gives was that her first husband, this is this is her story. Her first husband cheated on her with like a lot of women that were in the industry and she was angry about that. But then she realized that she wanted to understand these women and that brought her to the uh trafficking industry and now she's doing she has a lot a lot of angels this angels you know Texas Angels and Austin Angels I can't remember all of them but that's another connection there and now we have Marcus Wada involved I should probably change that to more responsibly say formerly involved in trafficking arms in Poland according to Turning Point USA current employees and past employees So, we can just update that spreadsheet, you guys, just so I can say that clearly. Formerly involved Marcus Wada. We just kind of type that as a note. Yeah, we'll live edit that just so that doesn't get misunderstood from the public. Formerly, he's not formerly Marcus Wada, guys. No, he is Marcus Wada. Was he formerly Marcus Wada? I don't know. Actually, I don't People change their names. Nothing would surprise me. Maybe he is formerly Marcus Wada. 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Tons of other stuff available on the website. Um, top comment from last episode. Jared Johnson wrote, "Erica is the kind of friend to steal money from you and then pray that you find it." That one took me out yesterday because I just I feel like you hit the nail on the head. Erica is the kind of friend that will steal your money and then pray that you find it. Is like Jared. Jared, you win every award. I I laughed out loud when I read that comment. We'll pray for you. Oh my god, you lose your wallet, honey. Oh my, I'm so sorry. I'm going to pray for you. I pray pray the Lord finds it. You know, Elizabeth Broman or Brown wrote, "She didn't know how to play the part of a human being." She's quoting me. Exactly what woke up everyone. Yes, hope you're paying attention. Dat Vance. Um, there is such a thing as having a spiritual intuition about things. It's what keeps you safe. being aware something about justice feels off and that is something was not tracking and then when she wasn't behaving the way that she should behave, you guys basically told us that we were crazy for noticing that um that she had no fear and now you're flipping the gear. You're just completely doing a 180 now and saying she has fear. Come on guys, just stick to a script. Stick to some form of a script. Okay, comments on today's episode. Smith writes, "Did JD just slip up by saying that the people that killed Charlie?" I I didn't even catch that he said that. And I do believe that there were people involved, multiple people involved in killing Charlie Kirk. And I do not believe that it was Tyler Robinson alone on a rooftop. And so, we're going to continue to read the court documents and stay on top of them and force them to be honest about things for a change. Uh CC writes, "It's extremely nuts to be screaming make heaven crowded while cancing appearances because of a threat. The irony of Charlie still making his event after telling people that they were trying to kill him. Go home and be a mom like Charlie wanted." You just can't have it both ways. You can't you don't get to be a public figure and to say, "I don't want to have any attention, but I do want to be the CEO and the chairman of Turning Point USA." It's always like they they they are the people that present the problem. And then when everyone's like, "Okay, well, you're you're the person you're the one that brought the public into this." They go, "Oh, no, no, no, never mind. I just want privacy." It's giving Megan Markle. Do you know what I mean? Like, I I want I want to be the princess, but I also want privacy when I want it, but I also want Netflix cameras when I want it. Life is just doesn't work like that. Okay? You can't take us into the casket and then pretend to be a ghast when people ask you where you buried him. Did you bury him? Do you think that they cremated Charlie? I ask myself that question, right? I ask myself occasionally whether or not they cremated Charlie because that is starting to make sense to me that they would do that. I don't know because now she can't she can't share the details because she says people are are going to come and try to destroy. I mean I can't think of a single figure that's deeply hated in American history that has suffered having um people go after the grave site. And I I I genuinely that's just not a thing that people do right. Um I'm not I'm sure they do in extreme circumstances but that doesn't feel right to me. There's something very strange about that. And similarly, it's like she wants to be the grieving widow. She wants to be treated like a grieving widow that's taking care of her kids, but she's boss baiting it and she's making decisions and she's reversing course on the things that Charlie believed and reversing course on the things that she alleged that she believed when Charlie was alive. And people are going to call that out and they have a right to call that out. And so I encourage people to continue to do that. If she doesn't want to play the role of the CEO and chairman, she's welcome to step down. Okay? she's more than welcome to step down and then she will not have to deal with the dayto-day criticisms of how Turning Point USA is being run into the ground. Uh but otherwise, you know, put on your big girl pants, so to speak. Sarah Miller writes, "Loved ones of missing and murdered people regularly get dissected in their interviews with the press for how they are grieving publicly. I guess you are only allowed to grieve differently when you're a part of the Epstein class. It's bogus." Yeah, I mean, that's completely right. people absolutely tear apart people every second of every day, especially given the size of this case and as I said earlier, their inability to just string together a a comprehensive story regarding what took place in September 10th. It just it they are relying on us to accept make believe. This is a this is a this is a fairy tale story. And then they're like, "Well, why don't you believe that Rudolph had a red nose, Candace? Why don't you believe that he was carrying Santa's big butt all across the North Pole? Like, I just don't believe that actually. And oh, how could you not how could you not attack that and it's godly and it's this and the Lord and then it's suddenly not the Lord and they have real concerns and it's just all over the place. It's very sloppy. Caroline writes, "Candace, please let me help you with your Excel. I can do wonders." No, I am just using it to organize the columns. I am ignoring the rows. We are just doing the columns on connecting themes because I was like, I could make this in Word, but why would I when Excel has already made this for me? Thank you. Yeah, we're keeping that forever. In fact, I am inspiring an entire generation to misuse Excel spreadsheets. I'm very proud of myself. Jolie writes, "Tpose USA is no longer considered to be turning point. It should now be known as trafficking point. I It's topsyturvy point. It's tumbling point. It's certainly not the organization that I knew, that I supported, and that I loved. And it is, it's feels like it's been infiltrated by Zionists. I think from the very beginning, we felt that. I think that's honest. That's a that's a a fair take. And um even in there, like I said, there's this like bizarre partnership that they just keep having with the Daily Wire. Like, we know what the Daily Wire is. So, when we see that, we go, hm, that's weird. Why? That's not that's strange. And we have a right to comment on that and to recognize that. Lastly, Granny Manny writes, "They were screaming for your arrest and worse on X last night. I could not believe how hostile it was. Love you so much, Candace. These people are insane." Like, if if Erica literally like fell and scraped her knee, if she did what I did and she broke her foot, they'd be like, "This is Candace's fault." That's what they want. They're trying to create that environment. And so, we need to be conscious of that. Okay. Everything we have done on this show has been fair. Charlie Kirk was murdered. We are being lied to about the details surrounding that murder. and I granted her grace beyond what the internet was willing to give her. She lied to my face. She has lied multiple times and the lies are inexplicable. They won't clarify any of these lies. They are pretending like she's too busy, like she's some grieving, powerful widow behind the scenes. She's not. Actually, she plays very nasty. Just so you guys know, here's a fact. Erica personally made phone calls trying to get people not to go to the Catholic event that I spoke at the other week. Okay? She plays dirty behind the scenes. The people who were fired told me who was behind this PR push. Erica was behind this stuff the entire time. So, you can completely miss me. I don't play that way with me. You get what you get. I'm going to say it on my show. I'm not going to wheel and deal. I'm not going to call a PR person and be like, "Could we get this article? Can we try to see if we can get Candace canceled from this event? Can we try to see? It was sold out. The event was sold out. Um, and it's because I don't play that way. I don't have that karma building up in the background. I don't have to worry about I don't treat people that way. I'm always upfront and I was upfront with her when I sat down with her and she lied. Okay. So, she got onto my list of people that I find to be suspicious because of her own actions and her behavior and her lack of interest in the very many holes in this case, her anger at Joe Kent for trying to investigate foreign involvement. Who do you think is orchestrating all that? Does it sound to you like Andrew Kat has a brain or like there could be someone more conniving behind him? I offer you the latter. Okay, it is definitively the latter and I will leave it at that. Um, I guess that's it for today's comments. We will see you guys tomorrow.
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