Charlie Kirk Debates Undecided College Student on Trump, Economy, and the Electoral College

[00:00] Hello. Hello.

[00:03] Um, I just kind of had a few questions

[00:06] and I'm coming to you like respectfully

[00:09] because I have no intention of being

[00:10] rude or anything despite what you may

[00:12] think. Um, I will be voting for the

[00:16] Democratic Party. Hold your booze. Hold

[00:19] your booze. I was um You kind of invited

[00:23] them honestly. Like Yeah, probably. Just

[00:25] get them out, guys. Get it out. But it's

[00:26] okay. I don't really All right. No,

[00:28] enough. Stop it. Yeah. But I don't

[00:29] really care. Um cuz honestly I feel like

[00:34] I honestly feel like the only way to

[00:36] unite the country is to unite the

[00:38] parties. Even though you disagree on

[00:40] some things, you're not going to get

[00:42] anything better unless you come

[00:43] together. So I don't I kind of don't

[00:45] understand why y'all turn against each

[00:47] other. But that's not the point I'm

[00:48] trying to make. Um I have multiple

[00:50] things. Uh cuz I like three days ago I

[00:55] had no intention of voting whatsoever.

[00:57] Um because I had heard what my friend

[01:00] said about the Democratic side. Can you

[01:02] please shut up while I'm talking?

[01:04] Just just don't don't let it get to you.

[01:06] Please, okay, cuz it's just

[01:08] disrespectful. But um

[01:12] so I had people telling me about the

[01:13] Democratic party, like different stuff.

[01:15] They were like, "This is good because of

[01:16] this." And then I had my family, they're

[01:19] like, "Well, Trump's good because of

[01:20] this." So then I just started

[01:22] researching literally three days ago and

[01:25] I fell down this whole like rabbit hole

[01:26] of so much stuff. Um,

[01:30] and

[01:32] that's why I will be voting for the

[01:33] Democratic. Can I ask you and it's not

[01:34] your question. What did you find

[01:35] persuasive enough to convince you to

[01:37] vote for Democrats? Well, so you talked

[01:39] about Trump creating safe cities, safe

[01:42] streets, just a safe country, but you

[01:45] know about his rally where he said that

[01:47] he wants one full day of police

[01:49] retaliation to eradicate crime. You know

[01:53] about that? Are you familiar with the

[01:54] night of broken glass? Crystal knocked

[01:57] World War II. Are you familiar with

[01:58] that? I'm I'm intimately familiar. I'm

[02:00] trying to understand the connection. Are

[02:01] we doing the Nazi thing again or like

[02:03] are we like there was honestly so so

[02:06] crime was lower under Trump than under

[02:08] Kla and Joe Biden. So I'm not like much

[02:10] lower. Violent crime was substantially

[02:12] and sizably lower in every major metro

[02:14] area in every every major state. Okay,

[02:16] I'll give you that one cuz like I said,

[02:19] I just started researching like 3 days

[02:20] ago. I'm not like everybody else here

[02:22] where I've just been plotting this. But

[02:24] tell me what it's not your question. I

[02:26] just want to know as someone who does

[02:27] this for a living cuz then I can get

[02:28] better. What did you find that you're

[02:30] like, "Now I'm voting for the Democrat

[02:32] party." What made that click? Okay, so

[02:36] the thing with me was my mom kept

[02:38] telling me, "Oh, go look at the

[02:40] websites. You have to look at the

[02:41] political party websites." So I'm like,

[02:43] "Okay, fine." Like, "I'll look at those,

[02:44] too." And so I did, even though those

[02:46] are the most biased sources you're going

[02:48] to get because they're, you know, um I

[02:53] was looking under economy because that's

[02:54] everyone's main argument about Trump.

[02:56] They're like, "Oh, well, I don't like

[02:57] him, but I like his policies." So, I

[02:59] wanted to look at his policies. So, then

[03:01] I did, and they were

[03:04] little too strangely similar to the ones

[03:07] I was looking at, the Democratic party.

[03:08] So, I'm like, how am I supposed to know

[03:09] which one to believe? Like, you're

[03:11] saying, good question. It's a great

[03:12] question. So, which one did it better

[03:14] for four years, Kamla and Joe or Trump?

[03:17] We're are we not under Trump's tax

[03:18] policy right now till 2025? Well, first

[03:22] of all, tax policy is a small part of e

[03:24] economic policy. I mean, Joe Biden,

[03:26] we're going to go into $2 trillion in

[03:29] debt by 2028 because of his tax policy.

[03:31] That's actually not true. Um, it

[03:32] actually is true. No, actually. So, what

[03:34] the tax cut actually did is spur

[03:35] economic growth. And what you're talking

[03:37] about is not annualized deficits. You're

[03:39] talking about cumulative debt over over

[03:42] 7 to 8 years. But the t you know what

[03:44] the tax cuts did? It actually cut your

[03:45] taxes. It was the largest middle class

[03:47] tax cut in American history. Now, I I

[03:49] just want to ask a question. It's not

[03:51] it's not a true question. 75% of

[03:53] Americans say the economy was better

[03:55] under Trump were we not under Obama's

[03:58] tax policy and plus the pandemic that's

[04:00] not really normal. So, of course, the

[04:01] economy is going well, hold on. You You

[04:03] got to stop with this like Obama. Trump,

[04:04] let me You have to take ownership of

[04:06] your administration. So, Trump will take

[04:08] ownership. He had the lowest

[04:09] unemployment. Wages were going up, no

[04:11] inflation, housing boom. Why is that? He

[04:14] kept energy prices low, cut tax for

[04:16] middle class families, got rid of stupid

[04:19] regulation, and we saw an economic

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[04:57] So, would you say he's a good

[04:58] businessman? Yeah, I mean, he's a

[05:00] multi-billionaire.

[05:02] What about his multiple uh businesses

[05:05] that have went into bankruptcy? Yeah, I

[05:06] mean, look, you're going to fail

[05:08] sometimes when you do businesses, but 10

[05:09] times. Yeah, maybe. I mean, he's 78

[05:12] years old. I mean, how many billions

[05:13] have you made? You know, he was also

[05:15] born into it. Well, he was not born a

[05:17] billionaire. He he was given a couple

[05:19] million bucks, but turning a couple

[05:20] million bucks into 6 billion is like the

[05:23] greatest ROI in the history. And by the

[05:25] way, not only that, he he helped

[05:27] redefine the Plaza Hotel, the Grand

[05:29] Hyatt, the Trump Hotel, the Trump Deral.

[05:32] I mean, there some of the greatest

[05:33] properties you could imagine. It's

[05:35] pretty impressive business record, I

[05:36] would say. But that that doesn't matter.

[05:38] Was he a good president? Of course he

[05:40] was.

[05:42] Okay, so another thing that also is kind

[05:45] of like skewing my vote.

[05:48] So, everyone keeps telling me, "Oh my

[05:51] god, like

[05:53] everything he's saying is being taken

[05:55] out of context. He doesn't really mean

[05:56] it." Okay, so he didn't mean it when he

[06:00] said that he wants generals like Hitler

[06:02] had. He never said that, did he not? He

[06:05] did not. It's been completely debunked

[06:06] and three people around him said that as

[06:08] a complete fabrication. What? Let me ask

[06:10] you a question. What do you want to do

[06:12] with your life? Uh, honestly, I haven't

[06:15] quite figured it out, which I know

[06:16] you're going to say college is a scam.

[06:18] what you're doing. Uh, clinical

[06:19] laboratory science and psychology with a

[06:21] minor in criminal justice. So, you want

[06:23] to be able to own a home, of course.

[06:25] Yeah. I mean, under Kamla, it requires

[06:27] $135,000 a year to own a home. Under

[06:30] Trump, it was $75,000 a year.

[06:33] Interesting. Interesting.

[06:36] Um, I kind of just don't You care about

[06:38] ending war? Yeah, war is bad. Did Did he

[06:42] like actually end war? Yeah, it was it

[06:44] was the it was the first first president

[06:46] in 32 years for no new wars for four

[06:48] years. Interesting. New war under Obama,

[06:50] new war under Bush, new war under

[06:51] Clinton, new war under Biden. No new

[06:53] wars under Donald Trump four years.

[06:54] Right. Right. Um,

[06:58] so hold on. I had another point. I had a

[07:00] lot. I've been Let me ask you this. What

[07:02] What would you What would change your

[07:04] vote for Trump if anything?

[07:07] Um,

[07:09] probably a lot. It would probably take a

[07:10] lot because I mean the fact that he

[07:12] hasn't won the popular vote both terms

[07:15] that he ran. It's

[07:18] you know what that's like saying that's

[07:20] like saying well I know the Chiefs won

[07:22] the Super Bowl. I I totally get that.

[07:24] But did you guys know uh that the Ravens

[07:27] they got more yards?

[07:31] It's a completely irrelevant criteria.

[07:33] You run to win the electoral vote. It's

[07:35] like no no but we kicked more field

[07:36] goals. Yeah. But did you have more

[07:38] points? So, the electoral college is the

[07:41] ultimate tally of points, not how many

[07:43] yards you get. Right. Which I mean, I'm

[07:46] still trying to follow the ball and all

[07:46] that. For sure. I get that. What's your

[07:49] name? Michaela. Michaela, I want you to

[07:51] I want to get the next question. I want

[07:52] you to think of what we said. Um, try to

[07:54] follow some of our accounts. If not,

[07:55] that's fine. There's a lot of propaganda

[07:57] out there. Try to bring down the noise.

[07:59] And I will say this, Donald Trump has

[08:02] people around him, two former Democrats

[08:03] that ran for the presidency, Bobby

[08:04] Kennedy and Tulsi Gabbard. Do Do you

[08:06] know who those people are? If not,

[08:08] that's okay. You should do research.

[08:10] There are former Democrats that ran for

[08:11] the presidency and they're behind Trump

[08:13] because Trump is a ticket that's

[08:14] unifying the country and will make the

[08:16] country great again. What about the What

[08:18] about the 13 different people that

[08:19] worked alongside of him, including his

[08:21] vice president? Yeah, the people he

[08:22] fired. I think it's awesome that No,

[08:24] they are not with him. No, I think it's

[08:25] awesome they're against him. That's what

[08:26] I'm saying. No, you know why they're

[08:28] against him? Because he's a threat to

[08:29] the system they represent. Because we're

[08:31] actually going to have a voice against

[08:32] the wararmongers and the neocons and the

[08:33] corporate interests.

[08:36] Okay. And you know, over 300 former

[08:37] generals and military officers just

[08:38] endorsed Trump. So, just the other day.

[08:40] Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

[08:42] [Applause]