Charlie Kirk Dismantles Student's Claims About Trump Economy, Tariffs, and Border Security in Heated Exchange

[00:00] Charlie. Hey, Charlie. Yes, sir. Um, my

[00:02] name is Patrick. I'm a student here. Um,

[00:05] my question to you is why are you so

[00:07] hypocritical in the way that you look at

[00:09] Trump and Biden?

[00:12] Um, as far as the economy goes, when as

[00:15] every time he he announces a tariff,

[00:18] economy tanks. We saw that twice in

[00:20] March and then in the most recent one

[00:21] where he announced like the the largest

[00:24] uh or the most uh uh tariff percentage.

[00:27] Do you mean the stock market or the

[00:28] economy? everything in general. Just

[00:30] like the way the stock market's back up

[00:31] to even before the tariff announcement.

[00:33] Yeah, but that's because he took away

[00:34] the tariffs. It that he he took it away

[00:37] because all of his billionaire buddies

[00:40] um more or less. It's it's true. Elon

[00:43] Musk isn't really on TV anymore cuz he

[00:46] has lost he's lost trillions in Tesla.

[00:48] He was just in the cabinet meeting last

[00:50] week wearing multiple hats. Did you see

[00:52] that? He said, "I wear many hats." No, I

[00:54] don't I don't watch the Well, then why

[00:55] do you say he's not on TV? You said he's

[00:57] You know what he's on TV. Don't even you

[00:59] said he's not on TV anymore. You say

[01:00] don't watch TV. I Well, I don't I just I

[01:02] just see him everywhere. I used to see

[01:03] him everywhere and then as soon as the

[01:04] tariffs went into effect, he lost

[01:06] trillions uh in Tesla stock. Uh he

[01:09] stopped showing up. Uh who is it? Uh P.

[01:12] Heath is a Uh hold on. Let's

[01:15] pause at that. Is military recruitment

[01:17] up? Not sure. Is it? Yes, it is. Is

[01:19] military morale up? Not sure. Are

[01:22] military war games up? Not sure. Yes. Is

[01:25] military procurement going in the right

[01:26] direction? Probably. Wait, so hold on a

[01:28] second. You call Pete Hegsth a

[01:30] Yet more people want to join our

[01:32] military and they're happier fighting in

[01:33] our military with Pete Hegsth as head of

[01:36] secretary of defense. So that's really

[01:37] weird. Why is he a exactly?

[01:39] Because you know he served in the US

[01:41] military alongside and I I appreciate

[01:43] his um his uh service. Is that how you

[01:45] talk to veterans? You call them morons.

[01:47] No, I don't. And don't don't say that I

[01:49] do. That's why No, but why is he a

[01:51] Exactly. Well, because of the two

[01:52] signal chat list. He did not add the

[01:54] reporter into there. It doesn't matter.

[01:56] Why is he Why is he having uh Signal is

[01:58] an approved communication platform done

[02:00] by the Biden administration actually. Do

[02:01] you use Signal? Do you use WhatsApp? Do

[02:02] you use Telegram? No, I don't. Oh, you

[02:04] don't? Really? You don't use any

[02:05] messaging apps? I just use iMessage.

[02:07] Okay, that's a messaging app. Oh, okay.

[02:09] Yeah, it's also a secure one as well.

[02:11] But what what what is the contention

[02:12] here? You said the hypocrisy. So, let me

[02:14] now try to get your which person is more

[02:17] ca was more capable of talking to the

[02:19] media, Joe Biden or Donald Trump? Uh

[02:21] neither.

[02:24] Joe Biden. that that's my biggest. Did

[02:26] you have full faith in Joe Biden's

[02:28] ability to complete sentences? Uh to a

[02:30] certain extent I did

[02:33] and then I didn't after I realized maybe

[02:36] he is too old to be in office just like

[02:39] Donald Trump which he will be the oldest

[02:40] president. Age has nothing to do with

[02:42] it. Brain acuity. Now it doesn't it

[02:44] doesn't now but when Biden was in

[02:46] office. We never criticized Biden's age.

[02:48] We criticized his lack of knowing where

[02:50] he is

[02:51] and his dementia. Well, and then that's

[02:54] my point. You you talk about Biden when

[02:56] he's when he was uh dementiated like you

[02:59] said. Yes. And okay, Donald Trump has

[03:03] done multiple hours of freewheeling

[03:05] press conferences a week. Joe Biden

[03:07] wouldn't talk to the press for weeks on

[03:09] end. So what you say that the hypocrisy

[03:12] I'm very interested what do you mean by

[03:14] that? Because actually Joe Biden told us

[03:16] the southern border was an impossible

[03:18] problem to solve and needed Congress to

[03:20] solve. The southern border is so secure

[03:22] right now. Now we have a

[03:24] 99.99% reduction in all border

[03:26] crossings.

[03:28] And so that's just a fear factor. It's

[03:30] when when it's a fact actually. Well,

[03:32] because when Trump is saying that he's

[03:33] going to deport every single immigrant,

[03:35] it makes immigrants not want to come in.

[03:38] Good for Trump.

[03:41] That's a And by the way, don't call them

[03:43] immigrants. They're line cutters and

[03:45] border jumpers. Immigrants are people

[03:46] that wait in line and fill out the forms

[03:49] and come here correctly. Don't conflate

[03:51] the two. That's Don't conflate the two.

[03:54] When you border jump, you're not an

[03:55] immigrant. You're something completely

[03:56] different. A criminal. Is that what

[03:58] you're going to say? You're not an

[03:59] equivalent. An equivalent of what? A

[04:01] human. One is a criminal, one is a rule

[04:04] follower. One is a lawb breaker. One is

[04:06] someone who waits in line. So, should

[04:07] they not have due process? Well, it

[04:09] depends. You know that there's three

[04:10] ways that people don't have to due

[04:11] process in this country. How? Because

[04:13] actually, according to the Supreme Court

[04:14] in 2019, if you come across the southern

[04:16] border within 14 days or 100 miles

[04:17] southern border, you could be deported

[04:18] immediately without due process because

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[05:38] me let me take it back real quick. Let

[05:39] me take it back. Uh you say that Biden

[05:42] had a atrocious economy.

[05:44] Uh correct. And Trump's been president

[05:46] for like 104 days. Yeah. And with the

[05:50] with the tariffs, gas is down, eggs are

[05:52] down. Actually, let me look at this. Can

[05:54] you look at this chart for me? You see

[05:55] inflation drops to 2.4% in March. Lower

[05:58] than expected. Thank you, President

[05:59] Trump. You see, it was going up right

[06:01] here. This was Joe Biden. You see that?

[06:04] Joe Biden. Trump. Joe

[06:06] Biden. Do you see Joe Biden? Trump. Do

[06:09] you see that? Joe Biden. Trump. And

[06:11] Trump is all the way on the way down.

[06:13] Joe Biden. Trump.

[06:15] Can you do it with me? Joe Biden. Trump.

[06:20] Joe Biden. Trump.

[06:23] Do you want I'll sign this for you? Do

[06:24] you want it? I I uh actually Yeah. Can

[06:26] you? Yeah. My buddy My My buddy, he uh

[06:29] also doesn't have a brain.

[06:33] Doesn't have a brain. Okay. Yeah. Uh

[06:35] it's okay. He's He's still my friend

[06:36] though.

[06:38] Um so I I just want you You got to hold

[06:41] it up for the camera if

[06:43] There you go. Inflation is down

[06:45] everybody.

[06:48] All right. Um I just want you if at the

[06:50] end of Trump's presidency um and he uh

[06:55] overall it's a failure, will you admit

[06:57] that it was a failure?

[07:00] I mean yeah the tariffs are a failure.

[07:02] You could admit that. Hold on a second.

[07:03] But it first of all what you consider to

[07:05] be a failure I consider roaring success.

[07:06] I think border secure is very good. I'm

[07:08] not talking about I think manufacturing

[07:10] jobs coming up is very good. Like, yes,

[07:12] if some things don't go well, I will be

[07:14] honest about it, but even right now,

[07:15] we're not agreeing on success or

[07:16] failure. You're saying Trump is failing,

[07:18] and yet inflation is going down. We're

[07:20] bringing jobs back to the country. We

[07:22] had a better jobs report than anybody

[07:23] expected last week. The stock market has

[07:25] fully recovered. We're about to get no

[07:27] tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax

[07:30] on social

[07:31] security. So, all of those things will

[07:34] work and you're going to see the opening

[07:36] of the American economy unlike anything

[07:37] ever before. I believe we'll see end of

[07:39] the Russian Ukrainian war. I believe

[07:41] we're finally going to see no men and

[07:43] female sports, no chemical castration of

[07:45] kids, and he's already delivered on all

[07:47] those promises.

[07:49] Well, I hope you were a big Biden

[07:53] supporter, right? Not really. I mean, he

[07:55] was just the the the Well, actually, uh,

[07:57] when Kla was the on the ticket, I'd

[08:00] rather vote for her than Trump, so I

[08:01] voted for Fine. It's fine. Hold on. So,

[08:04] but I mean, you're bashing on Trump.

[08:05] Trump Trump. What was Joe Biden and Kla

[08:07] Harris's bigger biggest accomplishment?

[08:09] What was the one that really got you

[08:10] excited? The Chips and Science Act. Oh,

[08:12] the Chips and Science Act. Mhm. Okay.

[08:15] Anything else? And nobody even knows

[08:16] what the Chips and Science No, I know

[08:17] what it is. I know, but I'm not talking

[08:19] about I'm talking about them. Obviously,

[08:20] you know, this is your job. Um, but all

[08:23] I'm saying is when Biden left office,

[08:26] the inflation rate was at 2.3

[08:29] 2.4 2.4%. Right. Yeah. 2.4% as you

[08:35] showed me at the very end of his

[08:36] presidency. And um when when Trump

[08:40] announced his tariffs both times, it it

[08:42] rose inflation to a staggering rate.

[08:44] Eventually uh on the the last round of

[08:47] tariffs before the most recent one. Um

[08:51] when uh uh sorry when he

[08:55] um I'm blanking. We got to get the next

[08:58] question. Final final thing is this. Are

[08:59] you cheering for Trump's success? I'm

[09:01] cheering for America's success and I'm

[09:03] not seeing it. I'm not seeing it. Good.

[09:04] I we can agree on that. We both want to

[09:06] see America succeed. Thank you men. God

[09:08] bless you.

[09:09] [Applause]