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Charlie Kirk was killed on September 10th, 2025, while hosting one of his signature open debate events at Utah Valley University. He leaves behind his wife, two young children, and a profound legacy of communicating Christian values through respectful dialogue. This tribute explores Kirk's commitment to good-faith engagement, his bravery in facing opposition, and why his moderate, thoughtful approach to cultural discourse matters now more than ever. As conservative Christians grapple with an increasingly hostile political climate, Kirk's example offers a path forward rooted in truth, charity, and unwavering faith—rejecting both passive weakness and aggressive tactics in favor of the dialogue that kept our society from descending into violence.
A Good Man Who Embodied Good Faith
Charlie Kirk was a good man. He embodied the idea of acting in good faith and was willing to charitably dialogue with those on the left who disagreed with him. I met Charlie in January of this year when we were both speaking at the pro-life summit in Washington DC during the March for Life. We were hanging out in the speakers room and Charlie said to me, "I've seen your videos about me. I think they're great." These included a video where I affirmed Charlie's defense of the pro-life view on Jubilee and a video where I was critical of his objections to Catholicism. He told me, "Look, I think it's great when people defend what they believe." He did not take any of my criticisms personally. We had a really good chat, and one of his friends was in the process of setting up a longer dialogue between the two of us.
I appreciated that while Charlie did not agree with Catholicism as a whole, he loved Catholics and he valued many aspects of the Catholic faith. His wife is Catholic and he had been attending mass with her. In a previous episode of Charlie Kirk's podcast, he said that Protestants undervalue the Blessed Virgin Mary and he saw her as an antidote to the modern world's toxic feminism.
"I think we as Protestants and evangelicals under venerate Mary. She was very important. She was a vessel for our Lord and Savior. I think that we as evangelicals and Protestants, we've overcorrected. We don't talk about Mary enough. We don't venerate her enough. Mary was clearly important to early Christians. There's something there. In fact, I believe one of the ways that we fix toxic feminism in America is Mary is the solution. Have more young ladies be pious, be reverent, to be full of faith, slow to anger, slow to words at times. Mary is a phenomenal example and I think a counter to so much of the toxicity of feminism in the modern era."
Handling Criticism With Grace
Charlie Kirk's goodwill can also be seen in how he handled criticism, insults, and other attacks. When South Park parodied him, Charlie was excited that he had now made it. He achieved a level of influence that few people in American politics, especially at his age, have today. Even the writers of South Park, probably without knowing it, had to make their parody of Charlie Kirk use good pro-life arguments because those are just the kind of arguments that he would use that would stump college students.
In one scene, a character challenges him: "Oh my god. What makes you think you have the right to say what I do with my body?" Charlie responds: "Let me ask you something. If a pregnant woman is murdered and the baby dies too, why is the killer charged with a double homicide?" The response comes: "Well, but because people have different beliefs." Charlie replies: "It's not about belief. It's about truth. Science confirms life begins at conception."
A Brave Man in Battle
Charlie Kirk was not only a man of goodwill, he was a brave man. When I heard Charlie had been shot and then that he had died, I felt like a lieutenant colonel who just found out that the general had been killed in battle. But Charlie didn't believe in battling or vilifying people. He believed, as the Bible says, in battling ideas. This is embodied in 2 Corinthians 10:3-5, which says: "For though we live in the world, we are not carrying on a worldly war. For the weapons of our warfare are not worldly, but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments and every proud obstacle to the knowledge of God and take every thought captive to obey Christ."
When I was in my mid-20s, I used to do similar open-air debates on college campuses. I remember having to keep my eyes open for unhinged people who might snap. However, I never faced the level of scrutiny or vitriol or danger that Charlie Kirk faced. So I commend his bravery.
The Frightening Climate We Face
Here's what's so sad and frankly frightening to me about this incident. Nobody deserves to be murdered, even if they have disgusting evil views. But Charlie Kirk was a moderate conservative. On Jubilee, he defended the supposedly radical claim that abortion is murder and trans women are not women—things everybody believed a few decades ago or even just a few years ago.
However, we live in a culture where simply believing that it should be illegal to kill children in the womb or mutilate them in the name of transgender ideology is considered the equivalent of genocidal Nazi ideology. As a result, it's considered justifiable to meet such ideology with lethal force, just as you would meet a Nazi on the beaches of Normandy with lethal force.
Two Camps Among Christian Conservatives
So how should we as Christians respond to this scary political climate in which we inhabit? First, Charlie's death is not a sign that his moderate, respectful, and thoughtful approach should be abandoned. I worry that the conservative Christian movement is splitting into two camps.
One camp, embodied by people like Charlie Kirk, believes that we should not stoop to the level of our ideological opponents. They might shout down speakers, dogpile, dox and verbally abuse people online and even use physical violence, but our side should not do that. Instead, we should openly and peacefully engage anyone in respectful dialogue and through this change people's minds so that we change public policy.
However, the other camp among Christian conservatives and those on the right say that anything is fair game to defeat our opponents. If they stoop to evil, we will do the same. Instead of good faith debate, we'll use mockery, trolling, and almost any other tactic our opponents would use against us, no matter how obnoxious.
The Danger of the Heckler's Veto
One of these tactics is the heckler's veto, or shouting down a speaker to prevent others from hearing their message. I was the victim of a heckler's veto at a Canadian university several years ago, where, ironically, some of the protesters wanted to talk to me, but other protesters simply sang songs to try to make me quit my presentation. I then asked the campus security guards if this counted as a disruption that warranted removing the students from the event and they said that they considered the students engaging in free speech, not a violation of campus rules.
According to the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, or FIRE, in the past five years, while strong Democratic college students have become less likely to want to shout down speakers they disagree with, strong Republican college students have become more likely to want to shut down speakers they disagree with. Even more shocking is the question of using violence to stop someone from speaking. Strong Democratic students have slightly increased in supporting violence, but strong Republican students have dramatically increased, going from about 10% in 2020 supporting violence to shut down speakers to nearly 40% in 2025, which is higher than the strong Democratic college students.
For this group of people on the right, the ultimate goal is to gain power and then outlaw dissent. It's not to gradually change people's minds who then collectively change laws and culture. This camp will say that Charlie Kirk's death proves the former approach should be abandoned. But that doesn't follow because death does not disprove truth.
Christ Crucified: The Model for Our Approach
1 Corinthians 1:23 says, "We preach Christ crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and folly to Gentiles." Our Lord was the victim of a political assassination, but it did not invalidate his nonviolent approach. Jewish approaches to the Roman Empire that relied on violence ended up being monumental failures. In contrast, Christianity's peaceful approach destroyed pagan Rome and turned it into the golden age of Christendom.
The split among young conservatives and others on the right today also reminds me of the split in the civil rights movement decades ago. On one side, you had Martin Luther King Jr. who advocated for peaceful nonviolent resistance when whites attacked blacks for doing things like sitting at segregated lunch counters. On the other side, you had Malcolm X who advocated for defensive violence when blacks were assaulted and said, in his words, "Freedom for blacks should be achieved by any means necessary." Both men were assassinated, but King's non-violent approach was ultimately the effective one in securing legal rights for blacks. I believe history will vindicate Kirk's thoughtful approach against those who say we should rely on more aggressive tactics.
Killed Because He Was Effective
Virginia State Representative Nick Freitas notes that Kirk was killed not because he was a political extremist, but because he was extremely effective. "Let's get one thing straight. They didn't murder Charlie Kirk because he was an extremist or a fascist or a threat to democracy or inciting violence or any of the other reasons that they're now trying to put out on X and TikTok and everywhere else. They murdered him because he was effective. He was effective. The man made incredible arguments while at the same time always trying to seek out common humanity. He might have disagreed with arguments, but he didn't hate anyone and they murdered him. That's what happened."
You can see the superiority of this approach in that it reaches people you think would be died in the wool leftists. People like Governor Gavin Newsom's children. Newsom shared: "The worst part though, Charlie, no BS. True story. Literally last night trying to put my son to bed. He's like, 'No, Dad. What time? What time's Charlie going to be here? What time?' And I'm like, 'Dude, you're in school tomorrow.' He's 13. He's like, 'No, no.' This morning wakes up at 6 something. He's like, 'I'm coming.' I'm like, he literally would not leave the house."
The extreme approaches will also reach some people on the left, but we have to ask which approach is going to be most effective at reaching the largest number of people. Also, rejecting the far right or barbarian right does not mean you have to be mealy-mouthed or weak. Charlie Kirk would frequently use blunt language when talking about important cultural issues. He was also a person of goodwill. He did not resort to bullying or abusive tactics when he debated people. He reasoned with them and embodied what scripture says in Isaiah 1:18: "Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord. Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow. Though they are red like crimson, they shall become like wool."
Dialogue: The Alternative to Violence
Charlie Kirk believed in dialogue because he saw it as the one thing keeping us from devolving into violence and the best way to make our culture better. Here he is explaining this to a woman on the street:
"I go around universities and have challenging conversations because that's what is so important to our country is to find our disagreements respectfully because when people stop talking, that's when violence happens." The woman responds: "I've never seen someone do this." Charlie continues: "Well, it's a growing trend because people like me are facing violence, assaults." She asks: "The left?" Charlie confirms: "Yes. The campus Antifa. I've been stormed out of restaurants. I've been assaulted publicly. Multiple death threats." She asks: "Okay. So what's your goal in all of this?" Charlie explains: "There's more people that agree with me than some people would actually believe and they come out of the woodwork when I do stuff like this. We record all of it so that we put on the internet so people can see these ideas collide. When people stop talking, that's when you get violence. That's when civil war happens because you start to think the other side is so evil and they lose their humanity."
The Hitler Label and Dangerous Rhetoric
Honestly, that has happened with the left saying that anyone who disagrees with them is Hitler. I have a news flash for you. The Hitler label does not make your opponents look worse. It just makes Hitler look better. If being against child killing and child mutilation apparently makes you Hitler, if anything makes you Hitler, it's being for things like killing innocent human beings in the womb. But the truth is only Hitler is Hitler. And this kind of rhetoric needs to stop before more people get killed.
There are two extreme reactions among the targets on the right when it comes to this rhetoric. One is on the far right who just embrace the terms like being a Nazi or being a Hitler. They say it isn't just bad ideas that ruin society. They say it's bad groups of people who ruin society because those groups of people are morally inferior due to their sex or their ethnicity. They also say that they might as well be full-blown radicals because you risk being killed no matter how thoughtfully you engage the other side.
But if you want to honor Charlie Kirk's memory, you'll disavow that camp's methods. We don't speak with nuance and charity because it's safer. We do it because that's what God wants us to do. Second Timothy chapter 2 says this: "The Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome, but kindly to everyone, an apt teacher, forbearing, correcting his opponents with gentleness. God may perhaps grant that they will repent and come to know the truth. And they may escape from the snare of the devil after being captured by him to do his will."
Rejecting Victim-Blaming
But that doesn't mean we have to go to the other extreme and just passively accept any insult from the other side. Here's what Matthew Dowd at MSNBC said in response to Charlie Kirk being shot: "He's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that's the environment we're in that people just you can't stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place."
The only thing awful in this analysis is you, Mr. Dowd. Anyone who utters this kind of stupidity should be rightfully shamed and refuted. We should love our enemies, but that does not preclude us from defeating our enemies' sinful schemes through moral means. I pray that conservative Christians who want to renew our culture will honor Charlie Kirk's memory by rejecting abusive, trollish, or barbaric approaches to public discourse that Charlie himself would have rejected.
A New Civil Rights Movement
The truth is, we are fighting in a new civil rights movement. One that says that children have the right to not be dismembered in the womb or psychologically and physically mutilated after birth through gender ideology. A civil rights movement that says women have the right to not compete against biological men in sports. They have the right to change in locker rooms and not have to see counterfeit women with their penises hanging out. Women have the right also to be on public transit and not have to be afraid of violent maniacs who were arrested over a dozen times and have been set loose to prey upon them. And it is a new civil rights movement that says white people have the right to be treated as human beings and not be slandered as racists merely because of their skin color.
Here's a clip with Charlie Kirk and Xaviaer DuRousseau on Fox News making this point: "If you look at what diversity, equity, and inclusion actually is, it's just a fancy way to say anti-white. And if things don't change and people keep getting kicked out of multicultural centers or stopped from getting jobs just because of their skin color, then white people are going to have to start their own civil rights movement because things have gotten way too woke and just toxic."
We Will Not Be Silenced
It will be very difficult to fight for our rights. And just like in the last civil rights movement, there will be evil people who want to deny human beings these rights. And they may use violence in doing so. I urge you once again to honor Charlie Kirk's memory by emulating his compassionate, moderate, and winsome approach to dialogue and not becoming like the monsters he often faced or even like the monsters who gloated about his death.
And if you are someone who wants to deny others these basic rights, rest assured we will not be silenced. You might be able to kill us, but you cannot kill our ideas because the truth cannot be killed. And deep down, it's that fear which motivates these cowards towards violence because they know they cannot win in a fair political fight. They can only win if, as the quote attributed to Edmund Burke says, "Good men do nothing."
Prayer and Faith in Dark Times
Finally, I ask that you please pray for the repose of Charlie Kirk's soul and for his family during this difficult time. And on a personal note, I'd ask for your prayers for my family. The day before Charlie Kirk was killed, I found out that my mother had passed away. The stress from everything has also stalled Laura's recovery from brain surgery. Your prayers are deeply appreciated.
If you feel overwhelmed by recent news of violence and depravity, please do not give up and fall into despair. Charlie Kirk had a robust Christian faith and four days before he died he wrote this: "Jesus defeated death so you can live. We must always keep our eyes on Christ especially when the world envelops us in darkness."
The Litany of Trust
I want to close with a prayer from the book "Jesus I Trust in You" by Sister Faustina Maria. Laura and I recite it often to help us weather the storms of this life and I hope you will consider praying this prayer or the litany of trust on a regular basis. Here is a portion being recited by Sister Faustina who belongs to the Sisters of Life:
From the belief that I have to earn your love. Deliver me Jesus. From the fear that I am unlovable. Deliver me, Jesus. From the false security that I have what it takes. Deliver me, Jesus. From the fear that trusting you will leave me more destitute. Deliver me, Jesus. From all suspicion of your words and promises. Deliver me, Jesus. From the rebellion against childlike dependency on you. Deliver me Jesus. From refusals and reluctances in accepting your will. Deliver me Jesus. From anxiety about the future. Deliver me Jesus. From resentment or excessive preoccupation with the past. Deliver me Jesus. From restless self-seeking in the present moment. Deliver me, Jesus. From the disbelief in your love and presence. Deliver me, Jesus. From the fear of being asked to give more than I have. Deliver me, Jesus. From the belief that my life has no meaning or worth. Deliver me, Jesus. From the fear of what love demands. Deliver me, Jesus. From discouragement. Deliver me, Jesus.
That you are continually holding me, sustaining me, loving me. Jesus, I trust in you. That your love goes deeper than my sins and failings and transforms me. Jesus, I trust in you. That not knowing what tomorrow brings is an invitation to lean on you. Jesus, I trust in you. That you are with me in my suffering. Jesus, I trust in you. That my suffering united to your own will bear fruit in this life and the next. Jesus, I trust in you. That you will not leave me orphan. That you are present in your church. Jesus, I trust in you. That your plan is better than anything else. Jesus, I trust in you. That you always hear me and in your goodness always respond to me. Jesus, I trust in you. That you give me the grace to accept forgiveness and to forgive others. Jesus, I trust in you. That you give me all the strength I need for what is asked. Jesus, I trust in you. That my life is a gift. Jesus, I trust in you. That you will teach me to trust you. Jesus, I trust in you. That you are my Lord and my God. Jesus, I trust in you. That I am your beloved one. Jesus, I trust in you.
Video Transcript
On September 10th, 2025, conservative
activist Charlie Kirk was assassinated
while engaging in one of his popular
open debate events at Utah Valley
University. He survived by his wife, his
two young children, and a praiseworthy
legacy of communicating the Christian
worldview to a secular culture. Today, I
want to honor Charlie's legacy and offer
some thoughts that I think will be
helpful for many of us who are mourning
this tragedy. First, I want to say that
Charlie Kirk was a good man. He was
someone who embodied the idea of acting
in good faith and was willing to
charitably dialogue with those on the
left who disagreed with him. I met
Charlie in January of this year when we
were both speaking at the pro-life
summit in Washington DC during the March
for Life. We were hanging out in the
speakers room and Charlie said to me,
"I've seen your videos about me. I think
they're great." And these included a
video where I affirmed Charlie's defense
of the pro-life view on Jubilee and a
video where I was critical of his
objections to Catholicism. He told me,
"Look, I think it's great when people
defend what they believe." And he did
not take any of my criticisms
personally. We had a really good chat,
and one of his friends was in the
process of setting up a longer dialogue
between the two of us. I appreciated
that while Charlie did not agree with
Catholicism as a whole, he loved
Catholics and he valued many aspects of
the Catholic faith. His wife is Catholic
and he had recently been attending mass
with her. In a previous episode of
Charlie Kirk's podcast, he said that
Protestants undervalue the Blessed
Virgin Mary and he saw her as an
antidote to the modern world's toxic
feminism. But let me first say, I think
we as Protestants and Ev evangelicals
under venerate Mary. She was very
important. She was a vessel for our Lord
and Savior. I think that we as
evangelicals and Protestants, we've
overcorrected. We don't talk about Mary
enough. We don't venerate her enough.
Mary was clearly important to early
Christians. There's something there. In
fact, I believe one of the ways that we
fix toxic feminism in America is Mary is
the solution. Have more young ladies be
pious, be
reverent, to be full of faith, slow to
anger, slow to words at times. Mary is a
phenomenal example and I think a counter
to so much of the toxicity of feminism
in the modern era.
>> Charlie Kirk's goodwill can also be seen
in how he handled criticism, insults,
and other attacks. For example, when
South Park parodyied him a few weeks
ago, Charlie was excited that he had now
made it. And indeed, he achieved a level
of influence that few people in American
politics, especially at his age, have
today. Even the writers of South Park,
probably without knowing it, had to make
their parody of Charlie Kirk use good
pro-life arguments because those are
just the kind of arguments that he would
use that would flumx college students.
>> Oh my god. What makes you think you have
the right to say what I do with my body?
>> Let me ask you something. If a pregnant
woman is and the baby dies too, why is
the killer charged with a double
homicide?
>> Well, but because people have different
beliefs,
>> it's not about belief. It's about truth.
Science confirms life begins at
conception. But not only was Charlie
Kirk a man of goodwill, he was a brave
man. When I heard Charlie had been shot
and then that he had died, I felt like a
lieutenant colonel who just found out
that the general had been killed in
battle. But Charlie didn't believe in
battling or vilifying people. He
believed, as the Bible says, in battling
ideas. This is embodied in 2 Corinthians
10:3-5, which says this, "For though we
live in the world, we are not carrying
on a worldly war. For the weapons of our
warfare are not worldly, but have divine
power to destroy strongholds. We destroy
arguments and every proud obstacle to
the knowledge of God and take every
thought captive to obey Christ. When I
was in my mid20s, I used to do similar
openair debates on college campuses. And
I remember having to keep my eyes open
for unhinged people who might snap.
However, I never faced the level of
scrutiny or vitriol or danger that
Charlie Kirk faced. So, I commend his
bravery. And here's what's so sad and
frankly frightening to me about this
incident. Nobody deserves to be
murdered, even if they have disgusting
evil views. But Charlie Kirk was a
moderate conservative. On Jubilee, he
defended the supposedly radical claim
that abortion is murder and trans women,
quote unquote, are not women. Stuff
everybody believed a few decades ago or
even just a few years ago. However, we
live in a culture where simply believing
that it should be illegal to kill
children in the womb or mutilate them in
the name of transgender ideology is
considered insanely, I might add, the
equivalent of genocidal Nazi ideology.
As a result, it's considered on this
view justifiable to meet such ideology
with lethal force, just as you would
meet a Nazi on the beaches of Normandy
with lethal force. So, how should we as
Christians respond to this scary
political climate in which we inhabit?
First, Charlie's death is not a sign
that his moderate, respectful, and
thoughtful approach should be abandoned.
I worry that the conservative Christian
movement is splitting into two camps.
One camp, embodied by people like
Charlie Kirk, believes that we should
not stoop to the level of our
ideological opponents. They might shout
down speakers, dogpile docks and
verbally abuse people online and even
use physical violence, but our side
should not do that. Instead, we should
openly and peacefully engage anyone in
respectful dialogue and through this
change people's minds so that we change
public policy. However, the other camp
among Christian conservatives and those
on the right say that anything is fair
game to defeat our opponents. If they
stoop to evil, we will do the same.
Instead of good faith debate, we'll use
mockery, trolling, and almost any other
tactic our opponents would use against
us, no matter how obnoxious. One of
these tactics is the heckler's veto, or
shouting down a speaker to prevent
others from hearing their message. I was
the victim of a heckler's veto at a
Canadian university several years ago,
where, ironically, some of the
protesters wanted to talk to me, but
other protesters simply sang songs to
try to make me quit my presentation.
propose rational arguments that have
convinced people on this issue and to
have and to have spirited debate and
discussions about I've seen it change
mine. You're right. We have to change
culture before we can change laws. Um
I then asked the campus security guards
if this counted as a disruption that
warranted removing the students from the
event and they said that they considered
the students engaging in free speech,
not a violation of campus rules.
According to the Foundation for
Individual Rights and Expression, or
FIRE, in the past five years, while
strong Democratic college students have
become less likely to want to shout down
speakers they disagree with, strong
Republican college students have become
more likely to want to shut down
speakers they disagree with. Even more
shocking is the question of using
violence to stop someone from speaking.
Strong Democratic students have slightly
increased in supporting violence, but
strong Republican students have
dramatically increased, going from about
10% in 2020 supporting violence to shut
down speakers to nearly 40% in 2025,
which is higher than the strong
Democratic college students. For this
group of people on the right, the
ultimate goal is to gain power and then
outlaw disscent. It's not to gradually
change people's minds who then
collectively change laws and culture.
This camp will say that Charlie Kirk's
death proves the former approach should
be abandoned. But that doesn't follow
because death does not disprove. 1
Corinthians 1:23 says, "We preach Christ
crucified, a stumbling block to Jews and
folly to Gentiles. Our Lord was the
victim of a political assassination, but
it did not invalidate his nonviolent
approach. Jewish approaches to the Roman
Empire that relied on violence ended up
being monumental failures. In contrast,
Christianity's peaceful approach
destroyed pagan Rome and turned it into
the golden age of Christendom. The split
among young conservatives and others on
the right today also reminds me of the
split in the civil rights movement
decades ago. On the one side, you had
Martin Luther King Jr. who advocated for
peaceful nonviolent resistance when
whites attacked blacks for doing things
like sitting at segregated lunch
counters. On the other side, you had
Malcolm X who advocated for defensive
violence when blacks were assaulted and
said, in his words, "Freedom for blacks
should be achieved by any means
necessary." Both men were assassinated,
but King's non-violent approach was
ultimately the effective one in securing
legal rights for blacks. And I believe
history will vindicate Kirk's thoughtful
approach against those who say we should
rely on more aggressive tactics.
Virginia State Representative Nick
Fredus notes that Kirk was killed not
because he was a political extremist,
but just because he was extremely
effective.
>> Let's get uh one thing straight. They
didn't murder Charlie Kirk because he
was an extremist or a fascist or a
threat to democracy or inciting violence
or any of the other reasons that they're
now trying to put out on X and Tik Tok
and everywhere else. They murdered him
because he was effective. He was
effective. The man made incredible
arguments while at the same time always
trying to seek out common humanity. He
might have disagreed with arguments, but
he didn't hate anyone and they murdered
him. That's what happened. And you can
see the superiority of this approach and
that it reaches people you think would
be died in the wool leftists. People
like Governor Gavin Newsome's children.
>> The worst part though, Charlie, no BS.
True story. Literally last night trying
to put my son to bed. He's like, "No,
Dad. I just What time? What time's
Charlie going to be here? What time?"
And I'm like, "Dude, you're in school
tomorrow." He's 13. He's like, "No, no.
This morning wakes up at 6 something."
He's like, "I'm coming." I'm like, he
literally would not leave the house.
>> Did you let him take off school?
>> No, he did. Of course not. He's not here
for a good reason. But the point is the
point school for like two years once one
day.
>> The point is the point which is you are
making a damn day.
>> Thank you. I'm kidding. I'm
>> No, but I know and I but I appreciate
that. I mean it's the reason you're here
because I think people need to
understand your success, your influence,
what you've been up to and the fact that
you're on these college campus doors.
Granted, the extreme approaches will
also reach some people on the left, but
we have to ask which approach is going
to be most effective at reaching the
largest number of people. Also,
rejecting the far right or barbarian
right as so amari calls them does not
mean you have to be meymouthed or weak.
Charlie Kirk would frequently use blunt
language when talking about important
cultural issues. He was also a person of
goodwill. He did not resort to bullying
or abusive tactics when he debated
people. He reasoned with them and
embodied what scripture says in Isaiah
1:18. Come now, let us reason together,
says the Lord. Though your sins are like
scarlet, they shall be as white as snow.
Though they are red like crimson, they
shall become like wool. Charlie Kirk
believed in dialogue because he saw it
as the one thing keeping us from
devolving into violence and the best way
to make our culture better. Here he is
explaining this to a woman on the
street. This is cool.
>> I go around universities and have
challenging conversations. And um
because that's what is so important to
our country is to find our disagreements
respectfully cuz when people stop
talking, that's when violence happens.
>> I've never seen someone do this.
>> Well, it's a growing trend because
people like me are facing violence,
assaults.
>> The left.
>> Yes. The campus Antifa. I've been
stormed out of restaurants. I've been
assaulted publicly. Multiple death
threats.
>> Okay. So, what's your goal in all of
this?
>> There's more people that agree with me
than some people would actually believe
and they come out of the woodwork when I
do stuff like this. We record all of it
so that we put on the internet so people
can see these ideas collide. When people
stop talking, that's when you get
violence. That's when civil war happens
because you start to think the other
side is so evil and they lose their
humanity. And honestly, that has
happened with the left saying that
anyone who disagrees with them is
Hitler. I have a news flash for you. The
Hitler label does not make your
opponents look worse. It just makes
Hitler look better. If being against
child killing and child mutilation
apparently makes you Hitler, if anything
makes you Hitler, it's being for things
like killing innocent human beings in
the womb. But the truth is only Hitler
is Hitler. And this kind of rhetoric
needs to stop before more people get
killed. And there are two extreme
reactions among the targets on the right
when it comes to this rhetoric. One is
on the far right who just embrace the
terms like being a Nazi or being a
Hitler. They say it isn't just bad ideas
that ruin society. They say it's bad
groups of people who ruin society
because those groups of people are
morally inferior due to their sex or
their ethnicity. They also say that they
might as well be full-blown radicals
because you risk being killed no matter
how thoughtfully you engage the other
side. But if you want to honor Charlie
Kirk's memory, you'll disavow that
camp's methods. We don't speak with
nuance and charity because it's safer.
We do it because that's what God wants
us to do. Second Timothy chapter 2 says
this, "The Lord's servant must not be
quarrelome, but kindly to everyone, an
apt teacher, forbearing, correcting his
opponents with gentleness. God may
perhaps grant that they will repent and
come to know the truth. And they may
escape from the snare of the devil after
being captured by him to do his will.
But that doesn't mean we have to go to
the other extreme and just passively
accept any insult from the other side.
Here's what Matthew Dow at MSNBC said in
response to Charlie Kirk being shot.
He's been one of the most divisive,
especially divisive younger figures in
this who is constantly sort of pushing
this sort of hate speech or sort of
aimed at certain groups. And I always go
back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful
words which then lead to hateful
actions. And I think that's the
environment we're in that that people
just you can't stop with these sort of
awful thoughts you have and then saying
these awful words and not expect awful
actions to take place. The only thing
awful in this analysis is you, Mr. Dow.
And anyone who utters this kind of
stupidity should be rightfully shamed
and refuted. We should love our enemies,
but that does not preclude us from
defeating our enemies sinful schemes
through moral means. I pray that
conservative Christians who want to
renew our culture will honor Charlie
Kirk's memory by rejecting abusive,
trollish, or barbaric approaches to
public discourse that Charlie himself
would have rejected. The truth is, we
are fighting in a new civil rights
movement. One that says that children
have the right to not be dismembered in
the womb or psychologically and
physically mutilated after birth through
gender ideology. a civil rights movement
that says women have the right to not
compete against biological men in
sports. They have the right to change in
locker rooms and not have to see
counterfeit women with their penises
hanging out. Women have the right also
to be on public transit and not have to
be afraid of violent maniac who was
arrested over a dozen times has been set
loose to prey upon them. And it is a new
civil rights movement that says white
people have the right to be treated as
human beings and not be slandered as
racists merely because of their skin
color. Here's a clip with Charlie Kirk
and Xavier D. Russo on Fox News making
this point.
>> If you look at what diversity, equity,
and inclusion actually is, it's just a
fancy way to say anti-white. And if
things don't change and people keep
getting kicked out of multicultural
centers or stopped from getting jobs
just because of their skin color, then
white people are going to have to start
their own civil rights movement because
things have gotten way too woke and just
toxic.
>> It will be very difficult to fight for
our rights. And just like in the last
civil rights movement, there will be
evil people who want to deny human
beings these rights. And they may use
violence in doing so. I urge you once
again to honor Charlie Kirk's memory by
emulating his compassionate, moderate,
and winsome approach to dialogue and not
becoming like the monsters he often
faced or even like the monsters who
gloated now about his death. And if you
are someone who wants to deny others
these basic rights, rest assured we will
not be silenced. You might be able to
kill us, but you cannot kill our ideas
because the truth cannot be killed. And
deep down, it's that fear which
motivates these cowards towards violence
because they know they cannot win in a
fair political fight. They can only win
if, as the quote attributed to Edmund
Burke says, "Good men do nothing."
Finally, I ask that you please pray for
the repose of Charlie Kirk's soul and
for his family during this difficult
time. And on a personal note, I'd ask
for your prayers for my family. The day
before Charlie Kirk was killed, I found
out that my mother had passed away. The
stress from everything has also stalled
Laura's recovery from brain surgery. And
so, your prayers are deeply appreciated.
And if you feel overwhelmed by recent
news of violence and depravity, please
do not give up and fall into despair.
Charlie Kirk had a robust Christian
faith and 4 days before he died he wrote
this. Jesus defeated death so you can
live. We must always keep our eyes on
Christ especially when the world
envelops us in darkness. I want to close
with a prayer from this book called
Jesus I trust in you by sister Fainina
Maria. Laura and I recite it often to
help us weather the storms of this life
and I hope you will consider praying
this prayer. or the litany of trust on a
regular basis. Here is a clip of it
being recited by sister Fina who belongs
to the sisters of life.
>> The first part of the prayer, the
response is deliver me Jesus. The second
part, the response is Jesus I trust in
you.
The litany of trust.
From the belief that I have to earn your
love. Deliver me Jesus. From the fear
that I am unlovable. Deliver me, Jesus,
from the false security that I have what
it takes. Deliver me, Jesus, from the
fear that trusting you will leave me
more destitute. Deliver me, Jesus, from
all suspicion of your words and
promises. Deliver me, Jesus, from the
rebellion against childlike dependency
on you. Deliver me Jesus from refusals
and reluctances in accepting your will.
Deliver me Jesus from anxiety about the
future. Deliver me Jesus from resentment
or excessive preoccupation with the
past. Deliver me Jesus
from restless self-seeking in the
present moment. Deliver me, Jesus,
from the disbelief in your love and
presence. Deliver me, Jesus,
from the fear of being asked to give
more than I have. Deliver me, Jesus,
from the belief that my life has no
meaning or worth. Deliver me, Jesus,
from the fear of what love demands.
Deliver me, Jesus, from discouragement.
Deliver me, Jesus, that you are
continually holding me, sustaining me,
loving me. Jesus, I trust in you. That
your love goes deeper than my sins and
failings and transforms me. Jesus, I
trust in you. That not knowing what
tomorrow brings is an invitation to lean
on you. Jesus, I trust in you. That you
are with me in my suffering. Jesus, I
trust in you.
that my suffering united to your own
will bear fruit in this life and the
next. Jesus, I trust in you. That you
will not leave me orphan. That you are
present in your church. Jesus, I trust
in you. That your plan is better than
anything else. Jesus, I trust in you
that you always hear me and in your
goodness always respond to me. Jesus, I
trust in you that you give me the grace
to accept forgiveness and to forgive
others. Jesus, I trust in you that you
give me all the strength I need for what
is asked. Jesus, I trust in you that my
life is a gift. Jesus, I trust in you
that you will teach me to trust you.
Jesus, I trust in you that you are my
Lord and my God. Jesus, I trust in you.
That I am your beloved one.
Jesus, I trust in you.
>> Thank you all so much for watching and I
hope you have a very blessed day.