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Officer Tatum Defends Charlie Kirk's Pro-Israel Legacy Against False Narratives After His Death
Officer Tatum confronts the disturbing conspiracy theories and false narratives spreading about Charlie Kirk's stance on Israel following his assassination. He dismantles claims from Nick Fuentes, Bassem Youssef, and Tucker Carlson that Kirk had turned against Israel or Benjamin Netanyahu, presenting video evidence of Kirk's consistent Zionist positions throughout his career. Tatum questions why critics who allegedly knew of Kirk's supposed shift remained silent while he was alive, only to speak out after his death when Kirk cannot defend himself. Drawing on his personal relationship with Kirk and years working with Turning Point USA, Tatum argues these narratives exploit Kirk's vulnerability and distract from the real threat: individuals driven by ideological hatred willing to commit violence.
Defending Charlie Kirk's True Legacy
Officer Tatum opens with a fundamental question that cuts through the conspiracy theories swirling in the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination: Why are people pushing the narrative that Kirk turned on Israel when there's no evidence Israel was behind his death? The logic doesn't hold up. If you're not concluding that Israel orchestrated the assassination, then whether Kirk had differences of opinion about Israel is completely irrelevant to understanding his murder.
What bothers Tatum most is the phrase he keeps hearing: "The Jews did it." This rhetoric, he argues, takes responsibility away from the actual perpetrator who confessed to the crime. It gives power to conspiracy theories while obscuring the real motivation behind this tragedy.
Nick Fuentes: A Dangerous Opportunist
Tatum turns his attention to Nick Fuentes, calling him a "narcissistic idiot" who shouldn't be trusted by young people. Now that Kirk is gone, Fuentes is positioning himself to capture the minds of youth with what Tatum describes as radical, stupid, and hateful rhetoric. The contrast with Kirk couldn't be starker.
Charlie Kirk, Tatum emphasizes, never discriminated. When Turning Point USA first started, Kirk's closest collaborator was Candace Owens, a black woman. They were inseparable, traveling together constantly. Kirk never expressed racist views, never said anything about keeping races separate or wanting his children to be white. This wasn't who he was.
Tatum doesn't let anyone forget what Fuentes said about Kirk before his death. Fuentes called Kirk a "fake Christian" and said Kirk should never be able to appear on a college campus without being harassed and accosted. But now, after Kirk's assassination, Fuentes has changed his tune, trying to sound reasonable while subtly positioning himself as Kirk's successor.
In one clip Tatum highlights, Fuentes even claimed that Benjamin Netanyahu allegedly offered Kirk $150 million—framing the conspiracy while trying to distance himself from it to appear more moderate. Tatum sees through the strategy: Fuentes is trying to sneak his way into Kirk's position by sounding articulate and convincing, but his track record reveals someone who cusses constantly while claiming to represent God.
Bassem Youssef's Irresponsible Comedy
On Piers Morgan's show, comedian Bassem Youssef floated conspiracy theories about Israel being behind Kirk's murder. When challenged by Morgan, Youssef retreated behind the excuse that he's "just a comedian" and "just a clown." But as Tatum points out, when you have millions of followers, you can't hide behind comedy to promote dangerous conspiracy theories.
Morgan called out Youssef's blind hatred of Israel, noting that he would promote any conspiracy theory as long as it painted Israel in a negative light. Youssef's defense—that conspiracy theories thrive when governments lie—doesn't justify spreading baseless accusations about Kirk's assassination before the man is even buried.
The Real Threat Everyone Is Ignoring
Tatum argues that all this focus on Israel is dangerously misplaced. The real threat comes from people on the left who, instead of debating ideas, want to eliminate their opponents so they don't have to face being "owned" in public debates anymore. The assassin planned his attack, climbed on a roof, and shot Kirk. This wasn't about Israel. It was about ideological hatred manifesting in violence.
These individuals are a threat to Charlie, to Tatum himself, to young people on college campuses, and to anyone who speaks conservative values publicly. While rare, there exists in every generation someone willing to assassinate and spend the rest of their life in prison. That's the real danger that gets obscured when everyone fixates on Israel conspiracy theories.
Tucker Carlson's Troubling Claims
What bothers Tatum most is Tucker Carlson's commentary on Kirk's supposed shift regarding Israel and Benjamin Netanyahu. Carlson claimed that Kirk "did not like BB Netanyahu" and said this "many times" to Carlson and others. According to Carlson, Kirk was "appalled by what was happening in Gaza" and "resentful" that Netanyahu was using the United States to prosecute his wars.
Carlson went further, claiming that after a controversial speech, donors tormented Kirk until the day he died. But Tatum asks the obvious question: Even if this were true, what does it matter right now? What does it have to do with understanding his assassination by someone who confessed?
Tatum, who worked with Turning Point USA since 2017, provides crucial context. Tucker Carlson appeared on stage at Turning Point events spewing what Tatum characterizes as anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. Why would Jewish donors who supported Kirk because of his consistent Zionist message from age 16 to 31 not have a problem with this? It's not unreasonable for donors to push back when someone at their flagship conference promotes ideas contrary to the organization's core values.
Tatum has lost faith in Tucker Carlson. He acknowledges that he once respected Carlson's willingness to speak truth on Fox News, but something changed. Now Carlson interviews people without pushback, offers condolences for Osama bin Laden's family, and claims he doesn't know if Hamas is a terrorist group. This isn't the same Tucker from years past.
Charlie Kirk's Consistent Pro-Israel Record
To counter the narratives being pushed, Tatum presents video evidence of Kirk's actual positions. In a debate with a Cambridge University student, Kirk articulated clearly why Israel is the good guy and Hamas is the bad guy. He recounted the facts: Hamas invaded Israel on one of the holiest days of the year, killed 1,300 Jews, took over 200 hostages from places like music festivals. They operated from hospitals, mosques, and schools in violation of the Geneva Convention.
Kirk defended Israel's right to defend itself after being invaded, pointing out that nobody seems upset about the two million German civilians who died in World War II. Civilian deaths in war are tragic, but the blame lies with Hamas leadership, not the Israeli government fighting a defensive war.
In other footage, Kirk described Israel as "the greatest trip I ever took"—twice. He spoke passionately about supporting the Holy Land against terrorist organizations like Hezbollah and the Palestinian Authority. Having spoken at more college campuses than perhaps any other Christian conservative in recent years, Kirk confronted young Christians who viewed Israel as an oppressive apartheid state.
Kirk shared a powerful story from his trip to Israel. Driving south from Jerusalem toward Hebron, he saw a sign with arrows—red arrows pointing right and left, a black arrow pointing straight. When he asked what it meant, his driver explained: "If we turn right, you'll die." In Palestinian Authority-controlled territories, Christians, Westerners, and Jews would be killed. Meanwhile, Arabs in Israeli-occupied areas receive benefits and voting rights. That stark contrast shaped Kirk's understanding.
In other recent footage from Turning Point events, Kirk defended Netanyahu as "special" and "everything a leader should be—confident and direct." When asked how he reconciled America First policies with supporting Israel, Kirk was clear: "I don't believe in America only. I think we should prioritize ourselves, but I think there is a place for America to be involved in international relations."
Why This Matters: Context and Nuance
Tatum acknowledges that these videos don't prove Kirk never felt conflicted or frustrated about aspects of the Israel situation later in his life. Perhaps he was processing complex emotions. Some people have told Tatum that Kirk felt pressure—not because he was turning against Israel, but because he felt alone in the fight as younger people turned on him over the Israeli conflict.
Bill Ackman mentioned on social media that Kirk was trying to put together a coalition to help with messaging before he died. There was apparently a letter sent to Netanyahu. Tatum hasn't seen it, but based on Kirk's public statements, he could imagine Kirk sending a message about fixing public relations and fighting back against negative narratives—not abandoning his core beliefs.
What Tatum finds exploitative is people taking Kirk's vulnerability and private frustrations and turning them into a complete ideological reversal. If Kirk had come to him struggling with these issues, Tatum would have talked him through it—not pushed him toward an extreme anti-Israel position and made everything "about the Jews."
The Questions No One Is Answering
Tatum poses the question that exposes the opportunism of these post-death narratives: Why did nobody say any of this while Kirk was alive? If people believed Kirk was under immense pressure from donors and being taken advantage of, why didn't anyone expose that publicly? People online expose everything, yet nobody defended Kirk while he was living so he could speak for himself with their support.
Instead, they waited until Kirk is dead and cannot defend himself. Kirk appeared on Tucker Carlson's show recently—it wasn't his last interview, but he was there. Yet there are no clips of Kirk bashing Israel or Netanyahu on that show. His final interview was with Ben Shapiro, described by Tatum as "the biggest Jew of them all."
Kirk was scheduled to speak at Pastor Allen Jackson's church—one of the biggest Zionist pastors in America—alongside Tatum this past weekend. Kirk was a member of Dream City Church, whose pastor holds a Zionist stance. If Kirk had truly turned completely against Israel and Zionism, why would he maintain these relationships and commitments?
The Real Agenda Behind the Narratives
Tatum believes that if you hate Israel, you need Israel to be wrong in every scenario. And now that the biggest Zionist supporter is dead, there's an opportunity to remake him into someone anti-Israel. You can claim "even he didn't believe the Jews were right," "even he was turning on the Jews," "even he didn't agree with the war."
But the body of work speaks for itself. From age 17 to 31, Charlie Kirk preached a consistent Zionist message—not blindly, but with clear, fact-based, articulate reasoning. He wasn't emotionally driven in his support; he laid out specific reasons based on geopolitical realities, religious freedom, and moral clarity about terrorism.
The timing and nature of these narratives reveal an agenda. They distract from the actual threat—violent individuals motivated by ideological hatred. They exploit a tragedy to advance anti-Israel positions. And they disrespect Kirk's memory by putting words and positions in his mouth that he never publicly stated as his final, definitive stance.
Tatum's message is clear: Don't let them trick you. Focus on the real threat. Honor Kirk's actual legacy. And question why those who claim to know Kirk's "true feelings" stayed silent when he was alive but speak loudly now that he cannot respond.
Video Transcript
There is no way in the world that before
Charlie can be put in the ground that
people are floating the idea and pushing
this extreme idea that somehow he turned
on Israel to what end? Because if you're
not going to conclude that Israel was
behind his death, then whether he turned
on Israel, had a difference of opinion
about Israel or not is irrelevant to his
death. So why bring it up? Don't let
them trick you.
When I see people talking about the
Jews, it bothers me. The Jews did it.
The Jews did it. They're taking
responsibility away from the person who
really didn't confess to it. They taking
they taking that they taking that power
or they giving him power and bolding
him, eluding what he did to talk about
this when there's no evidence
whatsoever. So, let's go down the food
chain. Uh here's a clip from this guy
named Nick Fuentes. If you don't know
him, good on you, cuz you He's an idiot.
He is a narcissistic idiot. Don't let
this fool trick your young people.
Because now that Charlie's gone, he's
trying to position himself to get the
mind of the youth to be stupid like him.
Radical, stupid, hateful, racist people
like him. Charlie was not like this.
Charlie would never say that you can't
marry somebody. You can't marry somebody
opposite uh not opposite but of a
different race. Charlie would never in
his life say I want my kids to be white.
Charlie never felt that. Charlie never
said that. Charlie never discriminated.
When when we first started turning point
well he first started turning point USA.
His best friend was a black woman
Candace. They were like this bro flying
on an airplane together. Everything. I I
thought they was in a relationship at
one point. I like they must be oh that's
a good couple right there. Look they
going everywhere together in a couple.
Then when I got to know him, I realized
they weren't. But Charlie ain't no
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And let me say this before I play this
clip. Don't forget what he said about
Charlie before Charlie's death. Don't
forget what he said. He called Charlie a
fake Christian. He said Charlie should
never be able to go to campus without
getting harassed, without getting uh
accosted. He said it out his own mouth.
Don't make me pull a film.
>> We had our disagreements.
Where we did agree
is that he would go to these college
campuses and proclaim the name of Jesus
Christ. And ultimately that is why he
was killed. the gunman that killed him,
they hated him because of his defense of
Christian morality. Charlie Kirk cannot
call himself a Christian anymore. Sorry,
you forfeited that. I do not want to
hear and you cannot allow
Charlie Kirk to go to one more public
event, one more question and answer, one
more ask me anything without being
protested, without being shouted down,
without being interrogated about this.
This guy goes around from campus to
campus
in the most artificial and phony and
fake way talking about, "Oh, God, God
made me very blessed that I control $500
million. Oh, I'm so blessed. I'm so rich
and I'm so blessed. And oh, God's been
so good to me.
I'm such a Christian. Oh, the Lord I I
the Lord gave me the Sabbath. I take
Saturday off."
You sit there and call yourself a
Christian and then you make excuses for
the genocide of two million people.
Seriously, you stand there and purport
to be an evangelist like Billy Graham.
Oh, you're the latest Billy Graham.
You're our generation's
America's pastor. Why? Because you said
the right words. Because you said, "God
bless. God bless.
God bless my friend. Oh, I rebuke the
devil in the name of Jesus."
And then you go around from campus to
campus making excuses for a famine.
>> He said the most terrible things about
Charlie Kirk and it made me so mad. You
can go back and look at my Twitter,
right? You go look right now. Go back in
time before Charlie's death. I was on
Twitter defending Charlie against this
guy. They claiming Charlie's a coward.
He didn't want to debate him. This guy
is a nut. That's why Charlie wouldn't
waste his time debating a nut job. He
said all these negative things. I'm
never going to forget it. I'm not going
to forget it. And don't wait till he
dead to come out and try to act like you
cool or act like you kind of like him or
act like you believe in his form of
Christianity when you said he was a fake
Christian and now he's trying to
position himself in Charlie spot. I said
it on my ex account that he represents
the devil. Charlie is representing God
and the devil want the godly man's
place. And so he's going to come on and
capitulate and mitigate his real
thoughts so he can try to position
himself to be the next Charlie Kirk
leading young boys to stupidity. He's
not married. He don't have no kids. That
boy don't know what he's talking about
in the in the video with a furry. I'll
pull I'll pull a tape. He was in a video
with a ferry. I didn't know the gay
stuff. So some dude dude had a bunny
ears or something on him and he riding
around with him all day. Went to lunch
with him and everything. It's on camera.
Did he did it talking about he was
trolling, bro? That's your boy. You you
like the shooter, your boyfriend, and
you don't want nobody to know you up
there, you know, man on your back at
night. It's mostly the ones that are
hyperchristian that hate everybody be
the ones that laying on their back with
some fairy on the back of them. And I
bet that's what this boy doing. Go check
his files. That's why he ain't got no
woman. It ain't because he really so
dedicated to man. He got because he got
a back there. All right, let's
play this clip.
and we'll go from there. Roll it.
>> Time to wake up, guys. Some of this I'll
be the first one to say the conspirator
skitso thing, it's getting a little out
of control,
>> which is what he
>> and that's coming from me.
>> Go.
>> I mean, it's like we are truly through
the looking glass. When Charlie Kirk is
assassinated,
people blame Israel.
I who fought Charlie Kirk because he was
pro-Israel am said to are I'm being said
to be covering up
that he was killed for this miraculous
conversion.
If Ben Shapiro was taken out next and
God forbid,
would Israel be behind that too?
I mean that would be equally ridiculous.
If it was Ben Shapiro on Wednesday,
people would be saying Israel did it.
Shapiro was about to become a national
socialist. Like what?
It's crazy. Anyway, so that I mean that
just needs to be said. Funny that he say
that. And in post-prouction, I'm going
to have Nick throw some clips in there.
This fool literally when it first
happened, he just said recently that it
was confirmed that Benjamin Netanyahu or
maybe he said allegedly that Benjamin
Netanyahu offered Charlie Kirk $150
million. He said that publicly. He is
framing this, but he's trying to back
off of it so he can sound a little more
reasonable so he can so he can sneak his
way in and he can now say, "I'm the new
Charlie Kirk." And let me tell you the
trick of the enemy cuz he is articulate.
He he's very convincing. He knows enough
to know how to talk well. That's how he
tricked the youth. I would never have a
young person tell him to go listen to
Nick Fuentes. That man that say he about
God and he cuss every time he talk he
cussing and saying something crazy.
Anyway, let's go to another idiot. Bosam
Yousef. I think he was that is that is
that the comedian on Pierce Morgan
talking stupid? Do we have that clip?
Clip three. That's him. He looked like a
fool. Listen to what he say. Wrote a
clip.
>> Somebody's passing is never enough for
you. You see, it doesn't matter how
critical journalists are about Israel,
it will never be enough for you because
you want you want the right you want the
right to suggest that Charlie Kirk was
the subject of a hit job by Israel. You
want the world to think that. That's why
you said what you said. And that's why
when I asked you, you went says it
wasn't him.
>> By the by the way, I'm not even the only
one. People are actually Here's the
thing. If you continue lying to your
people, right? I'll tell you what. Let's
let call call me a conspiracy theorist,
right? Call me someone who is illogical.
Call me whatever you want.
>> If your government continues to lie to
you, consistently. This is where
conspiracy theories thrive. If you're
not transparent,
>> why do you want to be one of them? If
>> if you want to cover No, no, no. I'm I'm
I'm not saying I'm float. Why float a
mad conspiracy theory about Israel?
>> Because it's the internet and I'm a
comedian and
>> But it's not that funny though, is it?
>> I actually a lot of people thought it
was very funny.
>> You have millions I'm sure they did, but
millions of people follow you and you
want them to think that Israel was
behind the murder of K. And you call me
You call me an ill-informed,
irresponsible journalist.
>> Bill Yeah. Because I'm not a journalist.
I'm a comedian. Remember, I'm a clown.
I'm a clown. I'm a clown. I don't think
you're a clown.
>> That's what I do. Oh, I'm a clown.
Actually, I'm a comedian. Comedians are
actually over.
>> But I think you're somebody who is so
blindly hateful of all things Israel
that you'll even promote a conspiracy.
So, anyway, he tried to divert and say,
"I'm a comedian. It was not very
serious. Although he was pushing the
conspiracy that Israel was behind this."
He did it. Nick Fuentes did it. It's a
whole bunch of other people on the
internet doing that. They doing it
subtly. and they also doing it directly.
There is no way in the world that before
Charlie can be put in the ground that
people are floating the idea and pushing
this extreme idea that somehow he turned
on Jews or turned on Israel to what end?
Because if you're not going to conclude
that Israel was behind his death, then
whether he turned on Israel, had a
difference of opinion about Israel or
not is irrelevant to his death. So why
bring it up? Why not focus on the mental
illness and the evilness of these people
who are on the left who instead of
debating ideas, they want to eliminate
you so they don't have to debate your
ideas. Them getting them getting owned
on camera. Instead of them getting
owned, they want to eliminate you so
they so they can have an excuse not to
be owned no more. Don't let them trick
you unless they come out and say, "I'm
sorry. I was wrong. I should have never
been pushing this Israel stuff." Don't
let them come back and try to back off
of it because the more information we
get, the more testimonies we get. All of
those things lead to the fact that that
nut job planned and went up on that that
roof and shot our friend and killed him.
And and he not the only one that want to
do it and that plan on doing it. But you
keep looking at Israel, you're going to
get blind spotted over here. You keep
looking at Israel and then a pro-Israeli
person think you can't be next because
you think I'm good with Israel so
nothing going to happen. No. No. These
people are a threat. They're a threat to
Charlie. They're a threat to me. They're
a threat to the young people on campus.
They have always been a threat. But
there's a once in a generation nut
that's willing to assassinate somebody.
Once in a generation, you'll have
somebody that one person that's willing
to assassinate and spend the rest of his
his life in jail. Let's go to Tucker.
This is what bothers me about this and
I'mma play it. Wrote a clip. Hope we got
Tucker clip for. This is what bothers me
and and and this is why I don't this is
why I don't fool with him no more. I
don't want nothing to do I I I I've lost
faith in Tucker Carson. I used to I
never really liked him a lot cuz I
didn't like how he talked. Like he was
very condescending and he's just weird.
But I respected his gangster cuz he was
keeping it real on Fox News. He was
hitting him over the head. He would do
tough interviews with Trump or anybody.
And then somehow a tapeworm got in him
and now he just say the craziest stuff
on planet earth. Charlie has not been
buried yet and this is the stuff he's
saying. Wrote a clip.
>> He did not like BB Netanyahu and he said
that to me many times and he said to
people around him many times. He felt
that BB Netanyahu was a very destructive
force. He was appalled by what was
happening in Gaza.
He was above all resentful that he
believed Netanyahu was using the United
States to prosecute his wars for the
benefit of his country and that it was
shameful and embarrassing and bad for
the United States and he resented it.
Didn't hate Netanyahu. He wasn't out
there with a placard saying that. But he
certainly expressed that to me and a lot
of other people. And there's no question
that BB's defenders uh on the internet
will call me a liar or a kook. Uh, but
that's a fact and enough text messages
exist that I think
>> it can be verified in pretty short
order. Not that it needs to be because
that is true.
>> Um, shortly after that speech, there was
a very intense attack on Charlie and to
some extent on me, not that I really
noticed, but on him. I have no donors.
He had $100 million worth of donors. And
so, because he was involved in a
different project from just yapping on
the internet, which is what I do for a
living, um, he was dependent to a great
extent on his donors. Of course, it's a
nonprofit. and they went after him and
tormented him. Not all of course, many
were supportive, but
offended by my speech. And there was a a
small very intense group who were
tormented Charlie Kirk until the day he
died.
>> Let let get this let's get this correct.
I I just I lose respect every time I
listen to them talk. We'll play this
debate and I want you to put Hold on. I
want you to put this in perspective.
Even if what Tucker is saying is true,
what who what does it matter? What does
it really matter right now? What? What
does it really matter after he has been
killed by somebody? What? What does it
matter? But then he goes on to say,
yeah, he Benjamin Netanyahu and his
donors. Think about this for a minute.
And this is coming from a person who has
been with Turning Point USA since 2017.
An anti-semitic person like Tucker
Carlson is on stage spewing hatred
against Jews and conspiracies. Why would
a donor that's Jewish or that is
donating to you because you are
elevating the Zionist ideas that you
have had since you was eight 16 years
old. Why would they not have a problem
with it? You can you can believe that
they're wrong or right or whatever your
opinion is, but you can't deny that. Why
would a donor say, "I have no problem
with you bringing this nut on stage in
front of all of these young people and
spewing stupidity." This ain't the
Tucker Carlson of Fox News or the Tucker
Car before he fell off a cliff. This is
the new Tucker where he gets on there
and he and he interviews a nun and don't
push back on her. Not one time. He gets
on the TV and say he will give
condolences for Osama bin Laden's
family. This Sarish son of a gun will
get on there and say he don't know if if
Hamas is a terrorist group. Why would a
Jewish person give money to an
organization if this guy is the one on
the stage prime time, the hottest spot
at the conference saying stupidity? Now,
you ain't got to like it, but you crazy
to think somebody is not going to have
push back. I know many of the people who
donate to Turning Point USA. Many of
them will go to bat for Charlie. I've
seen it with my own eye. They took care
of Charlie. They love Charlie. Charlie
could, you know, he was the man. He was
the man. I seen it. I I work with
Turning Point. I see him. They love him
donating hundreds of millions of dollars
to Turning Point, which is a good cause.
But I I I feel the offense when you're
like, "Well, wait a minute, man. You you
this is what Charlie would say. And and
how did he go from this to what Tucker
is saying?" And this is this is what a
month ago, something like that. About a
month ago. This wrote a clip. Let me ask
you in the conflict of Israel versus
Hamas, who's the good guy?
>> Believe both Hamas and the Israeli
government are evil, but I think also
that there is no just are they equally.
>> There is no justification for the murder
and weird of thousands of innocent
people and children futile.
There's no justification, Mr.
for invading hospitals, for bombing
innocent populations, and dragging out a
war which is damaging Israel and the
West.
>> You've made that that point. But
>> it's not a point. It's a moral truth,
isn't it?
>> Okay. Yeah. It was also a moral truth
that the war started because 1300 Jews
were killed and 200 were taken hostage.
And when you declare war on Israel,
expect a firestorm in reaction. Let me
finish. I let you talk. Israel at its
holiest day of the calendar year besides
Yam Kapoor and Rashashana, Samat Kur,
the 50-year anniversary of the six- day
war. On Shabbat, Hamas invaded Israel,
deciding to go recklessly to music
conscases,
and taking 200 plus hostages. They knew
what they were doing. In one of the most
cloistered urban environments on the
planet, 2 million people live in a place
where it's impossible to wage war,
impossible. where they wear civilian
clothing, they violate every tenant of
the Geneva Convention and the IDF when
they do something right, they get no
credit. When they do life-saving
surgeries of a Gazian child, they get no
credit. When they drive leaflets, drop
leaflets, they get no credit. But when
they happen to bomb a place where they
are operating their military from, which
we now know from third party verified
sources, hundreds of Hamas military
operations are in mosques, schools, and
hospitals. I'm sorry. The country that
where they were living in relative peace
on October 6 that all of a sudden we had
a war and Hamas started the war and I
don't see people that were really upset
about the two million Germans that were
killed in World War II. Civilians. A
tragic truth of war is that civilians
die. I don't like it and you don't like
it and they brought it upon themselves.
The only operation and entity to blame
is the leadership of Hamas, not the
Israeli government for fighting this
defensive war after they were invaded.
There is a good guy and there is a bad
guy. I'm I honestly
>> not the morality of a child.
>> Well, instead Well, hold on.
>> It's interesting you say that because a
child who knows that Israel is the good
guy, Hamas is bad, has a lot more wisdom
than a student like yourself at
Cambridge University.
>> Now,
people can say there's text messages
that exist. That's fine. But did
anything he say here was untrue?
He he literally across from a Cambridge
student
whooped him over the head with factual
information
and Charlie said the government wasn't
the problem. Now I got more for you.
Let's pull a clip up where Charlie was
it was the the compilation.
>> You got another one?
>> Yeah, I have this one too.
>> Oh, let's play that one and then we'll
play the compilation. And I'm not saying
that Charlie hadn't felt some type of
way about Netanyahu towards the end of
his life. I'm not saying that, but this
is the body of work from Charlie Kirk
over the the years. Wrote a clip.
>> The greatest trip I ever took was to
Israel. And the second greatest trip I
ever took was to Israel. I know they've
been there twice.
>> I agree.
>> I'm a huge supporter of the Holy Land of
Juda and Samaria and up against the
terrorist organizations, Hezbollah, and
the Palestinian Authority. College
campuses, and I've spoke all I've spoke
at more college campuses than any
Christian conservative in the last
couple years. Stanford, Berkeley, Brown,
UCLA, University of Texas.
University of Michigan, Michigan State
University, you name it. I've probably
spoken at it, major universities or
states all across the country from
Montana State to Maine. And I am
confronted many times by young
Christians that believe that Israel is
an oppressive aparttheid state that
basically should not exist in its
current form. And so I I am here to
clearly communicate to you that we have
to do a much better job of of
communicating um of conveying, I should
say, the geopolitical significance of
the state of Israel. Um the the world's
a better place because of the state of
Israel. We have all three monotheistic
religions represented in the Israeli
Knesset and the Israeli Supreme Court.
Uh Israel actually expresses freedom of
religion. I'll never forget when I was
driving down to Hebrron last year and
you're driving down south from Jerusalem
and there's this sign and and I don't
speak I don't speak Arabic nor do I
speak Hebrew. So I turned to my driver I
said what does that sign say? There was
no English translation and there was a
arrow in the middle and an arrow to the
right. arrow to the left and the arrows
to the right and left were red and the
arrow in the middle was black or some
other um uh not a warning color. And so
I said, "What does that mean?" They
said, "Well, if we turn right, you'll
die." What do you mean you'll die? Well,
if you turn right, you go into the
Palestinian Authority controlled
territories and as a Christian, a
Westerner, or a Jew, they'll kill you.
It's like, well, what kind of ridiculous
stubble standard here? If Arabs come
into the Israeli occupied areas, they're
given benefits and rights to vote. You
go into the Palestinian Authority areas,
Palestinian Authority controlled areas,
you get your head cut off. That was a
really interesting moment for me.
>> Now, I can look at that video and say
it's a little older video of Charlie.
The one at Cambridge is a more modern
video, but let's look at this other
video that I seen of Tucker saying what
he's saying and Charlie at events
publicly.
These are these are these are not old
events. This is public events that
Charlie has had. And this is a little
compilation that I saw with Tucker and
these events where Charlie is literally
in part debunking that what Tucker is
saying was the totality of what he
believed. It could have been a
frustrated part of what he believed, but
it this is the it's not the totality of
what Charlie believed.
Charlie,
me and Charlie were supposed to go to an
event this weekend at Pastor Alan
Jackson's church. the the biggest
Zionist pastor in America probably. I
literally went to Israel with Pastor
Jackson.
Charlie and Erica were supposed to come
and speak at this church.
If if if it's somehow he hated
Netanyahu,
maybe he was frustrated with him, but he
hated Israel. He ch he was he was
changing he had he had changed his
entire tune. He now don't believe the
stuff that he's saying there. But he's
going to speak at Allan Jackson's
church.
What are we saying? He was a member at
the same church I'm at,
Dream City Church. What is the stance of
the pastor at Dream City Church? A
Zionist stance.
What are we saying?
Let's play this clip. Roll it.
>> He did not like BB Netanyahu. And he
said that to me many times. And he said
to people around him many times. We had
we had like an hour.
>> He's special.
>> Yes.
>> He's a special special leader.
>> No.
>> Oh, and he's everything a leader should
be, right? I mean, just confident and
direct.
>> He was appalled by what was happening in
Gaza.
>> So, you know, it's funny. I used to say
that, hey, if you as a gay person would
go to Gaza, they'd throw you off of tall
buildings. Right now, they don't have
any tall buildings left. So, I don't
Is is that too soon? I'm sorry. Maybe
you shouldn't kill Jews, stupid Muslims.
Um,
>> he was above all resentful that he
believed Netanyahu was using the United
States to prosecute his wars for the
benefit of his country and that it was
shameful and embarrassing and bad for
the United States and he resented it.
How do you guys reconcile with the fact
that uh despite so many American first
policies and sort of speeches he gives,
he still very adamantly supports Israel,
a country which at times seems to be
opposed with our democratic values? He
has a contradiction.
>> Let me ask you a question. Is he is
America first America only?
>> Yes.
>> Oh, see I disagree. I don't believe in
America only. You do?
>> Yes.
>> Okay. So I disagree. I don't believe in
America only. I think we should
prioritize ourselves. But I think there
is a place for America to be involved in
international relations.
>> BB's defenders uh on the internet will
call me a liar or a kook. Uh but that's
a fact.
>> Okay, let's put this in perspective.
Does the videos that I show mean that
Charlie did not feel a certain way later
in his life. It does not prove that he
didn't have a different feeling, a
difference of emotion when it came to
that. But we're talking about the body
of work from a man that did not publicly
say any of these things that these
people are saying. he said. Ask yourself
the question why he did not say this
publicly. Could it be because he wasn't
convinced that that was his final stance
that he was going to come come and take
a stance on that principle? Could he
have been still processing these things?
Maybe he was upset. But that doesn't
mean that he was going to continue down
that path. This man has spent from from
from 20 I don't know when they started.
From when he was 17 to 31 years old,
Charlie had been preaching his Zionist
message. And he not just preaching it in
a foolish way. He not just blindly
saying I like Benjamin Netany and Yahoo.
You hear him articulate very clear and
real reasons why he believe what he
believes. All of them are factbased, not
emotionally driven. Now I've talked to
some people that have told me that
Charlie was a little upset, but not in a
way in which he was turning on Israel,
but he was upset because he felt like he
was alone in the fight as a
conservative. because the youth and the
younger people are turning on him
because of this Israeli conflict. And
that was what someone told me the
pressure that he was feeling. You look
at Bill Aman came out on social media
just recently and made mention that
Charlie was before he passed he was
trying to put together a coalition. This
is online. Put together a coalition of
individuals that can help with the
messaging. There was a letter sent to
Benjamin Netanyahu. It is mentioned that
the letter was negative towards Benjamin
Netany and Yahoo. Now, I haven't read
the letter. I've never seen the letter,
but based on what Charlie is saying in
all of these videos leading up to it, I
could see how in the letter, what
Benjamin Netanyahu said on television in
part would have been true. I can see
Charlie sending him a message, even if
he didn't like him, saying, "You need to
fix your PR. You got to fight back
against this stuff." And it and it
bothers me because I feel like that they
are they are are attacking or are
forcing a young man in his vulnerability
and exploiting him in his vulnerability.
If Charlie would have come to me and
said, "Man, I'm struggling with this and
this and that." I would talk with him
through it. I wouldn't say, "Look, yep,
you're noticing. See up they're bad.
They're evil. They're up." And then
everything Charlie say now from now on
is all about the Jews. I would not
advise him on that. He convinced me
about Israel. A and and and and and I'll
tell you this. I'm gonna say this and
I'm gonna move on. Why did nobody say
this while he was alive? This is where
you y'all need to pay attention to this.
Clip this. Whatever you want to say.
Why? If if if if people believe that he
was under immense pressure and being
taken advantage of by donors and they
were doing him in, why did nobody come
out and expose that? All these people
online expose everything. But they
nobody would expose the fact that the
donors were coming after him and and
pressuring him. There's text messages.
Well, why did nobody say nothing when he
was alive? Why you don't defend him when
he's alive? Why did you support him and
defend him when he was alive so he can
come out and say exactly what he wanted
to say with your support? But instead,
when the man is dead and he cannot
defend himself, I feel like some people
could be taking advantage of the
situation. I wouldn't wait till my You
know, I wouldn't wait. No, hold on, bro.
You said what? All right. All right.
I'll do it so you don't have to do it.
Let me pull up my social media. I heard
that these people are pressuring my
friend. I don't know their names, but
you know who you are and you better cut
this album and blast you. Matter of
fact, come on my show. Do this. Do that.
Do that. Let's do this. Mind you, on
Tucker's Carson show, Charlie Kirk was
on Tucker Carson show, wasn't he?
Recently. That wasn't his last
interview. His last interview was with
Ben Shapiro, the biggest Jew of them
all. But he did go on Tucker Carson
show. I didn't hear him talk about
Israel this way on Tucker show. Tucker
didn't bring up nothing about this stuff
on his show that I know of. There's no
clips. You ain't going to see no clips
of him on Tucker show bashing Israel in
the way in which Tucker is saying he was
and that he hated or disliked Netanyahu
hated him whatever he said he did. You
won't see Charlie saying this on
anybody's show. So why then after he's
passed all of a sudden the narrative is
that unequivocally he was completely
turning on Israel? I think personally if
you hate Israel you need Israel to be
wrong in every scenario, every
situation. and now the biggest Zionist
supporter of Israel in his death. You
can now make him into being anti-Israel.
You can make him into being uh he was
against the Jews. Even he didn't even
believe the Jews were right. Even he was
turning on the Jews. Even he didn't
agree with the war. But yet you got a
body of work from this man that's that's
articulating clearly why the war exist
and who's the good guy and who's the bad
guy.
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