Steven Crowder Debunks the Biggest Lies Being Spread About Charlie Kirk After His Death

[00:00] Who shot Charlie Kirk? A a guy from Utah who was raised in a Christian family who was a 22-y old

[00:07] guy described. He didn't have a transgirlfriend. He didn't have any trans influences. He

[00:12] didn't have any trans bullets. Yeah, I'm sorry you guys were wrong on all of that. Also raised by conservative parents just like you, Destiny. Here's the truth.

[00:19] Every single thing he just said is factually incorrect. But Destiny just can't help himself

[00:25] because he also on Pierce Morgan blamed Charlie Kirk's death on um well you and

[00:30] me uh voters just like Charlie. There is not a single mainstream conservative that will call for a

[00:36] lowering of the temperature on their side. I think that liberals need to wake up and finally realize that if they're

[00:42] not willing to do it, it will never come down. If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Donald Trump shouldn't have been

[00:47] president for this second term. Every time he's in office, this happens. People joked about when Biden came in.

[00:52] It was so boring. Nothing was going on. Seven out of 10 of the largest protests in American history have happened under

[00:58] Donald Trump. All of the recent political violence that's happened in this country over the past 20 years, the

[01:04] majority of it, the overwhelming majority of it, everybody gets mad because they keep asking Grock about it, has been conservative.

[01:09] Really? Oh, you just talked about the biggest protests. What were they? What were they? Were they what were they?

[01:15] Black Lives Matter. Were they summer of love? Were they Hat March?

[01:20] Compare it to the Tea Party under Barack Obama where they left the places, often public places, cleaner than they found

[01:26] it. And I have a bonus one for you just to show you what uh how idiotic and evil the left uh is. But please, this is why

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[01:50] never lose touch. That's not the slam he thinks it is, too, by the way. I know. That's not the slam he thinks it is. He said, "Well, under the Trump

[01:56] administration, that's when the biggest protest would happen." So, you're saying that the that when the left doesn't get their way,

[02:02] right? Yeah. They throw they burn down cities and act like children who will kill 30 people died. Yeah.

[02:07] In summer of love. Yep. That's that's on Trump or the people who are throwing a temper tantrum,

[02:12] right? Exactly right. Yeah. 30 plus people died and thousands of casualties including serious injuries. But uh hey,

[02:19] you know what? Uh Donald Trump said make your voices heard peacefully and patriotically. Here's another claim and

[02:25] again just because I was sort of made aware of Destiny Moore today. Um you'll hear this from the left. So it's not

[02:31] that Destiny is this guy is saying this. It's that this is something we gave you the polls yesterday. More people believe

[02:37] the shooter was a Republican, a conservative than understand this person was a

[02:43] radical leftist. the truth. More people believe the lie than the truth. The reason people believe the lie over the truth is because of uh liars like

[02:52] Destiny. Here's his claim that uh the guy was a conservative actually. Who shot Charlie Kirk?

[02:59] A guy from Utah who was raised in a Christian family who was a 22-y old guy described.

[03:05] He didn't have a trans girlfriend. He didn't have any trans influences. He didn't have any trans bullets. Yeah. I'm sorry you guys were wrong on all of

[03:11] that. also raised by conservative parents just like you, Destiny. Here's the truth. Every single thing he just

[03:17] said is factually incorrect. That's the truth. He is a leftist. The shooter is

[03:22] gay with a trans boyfriend. And by that I mean a boyfriend who says he's going to be a woman. That means the shooter is

[03:28] gay. He did uh he did carve or etch anti-fascist sayings, trans furry, weird

[03:35] fetish culture on the casings. It's all verifiable. Everything that

[03:43] Destiny just said is dishonest. And here's the thing. It's same old, same

[03:48] old. You heard the same thing on CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNBC. You heard it

[03:54] everywhere. He's a retread. For those who don't know, he's one of those online

[03:59] uh video game streamers. Here he is getting sodomized by Princess Peach.

[04:07] It's disgusting. That's a heterosexual relationship. Yes, it is. It's a heterosexual relationship because

[04:14] he's a I was unaware she had the requisite equipment for said move. Well, he purchased it for her.

[04:19] Have you ever heard of a strap-on? Is that a cheat code or something? I'm not sure. Yeah, you got to go It's It's in Super

[04:25] Mario World. You got to go down the right uh right pipe right you get yourself a dildo. Yes.

[04:30] And then she goes down the right pipe. So, it's very childish. It's very childish. It's very childish and stupid,

[04:36] but uh you shouldn't expect any better. He's got some problems. I'm sorry. We'll go into it a little bit later, but he went after what was forgive me. I forgot

[04:42] the the guy's how to pronounce the guy's last name who was killed at the Trump rally. Companator

[04:48] comparator. So there. Yeah. So yeah, he went in at him. Shouldn't have been at the rally. Shouldn't have been at the rally. Good. Good. It's a swing state

[04:55] voter. He literally said that on a stream. Here's why he bothers you. He is a man who consistently advocates violence who

[05:01] personally is capable of none. Yes, that's why. It's true. I advocate peace largely. I'm not a

[05:06] pacifist. Uh and certainly compared to destiny, every man here is capable of

[05:12] extreme violence in comparison. And we afford people like him grace. That's why that's not a man. That's not a man. A

[05:19] man who advocates that others commit acts of violence when he's capable of none is not a man. I don't care. By the

[05:24] way, there are plenty of gay men who are more a man than that. He is not willing to do

[05:30] what he believes needs to be done. So, he doesn't believe it. I'd like to see a sponsored octagon fight between Destiny

[05:36] and Gerald. That'd be fun. That would be fun. Done. Climb up that butt.

[05:43] Yeah. By the way, you can't just oil check until he submits. You have to use other submissions.

[05:51] Hey, I say I say no limits. Gerald, you you uh knock yourself out there. No, I'm going to be knock him out.

[05:56] How hilarious would it be if like Gerald gets in and he's like, "All right, there's going to be a piece of cake." And Destiny just has like a perfect Philly shell shoulder roll Whitaker and

[06:03] Gerald. Oh world shoot. I'm Dude, I after knowing Gerald for almost two years now, I'm convinced that

[06:08] it would wouldn't even phase him. He would figure it out. He just like, what's this? Is that Oh, is that a good Is that a good jab? Snap. Snap.

[06:15] Snap. He's holding him up. Do you guys think this will work? Yeah. I'll weaken at Bernies him until I'm

[06:20] done. Can I throw him out of the cage? No. The fight. You got to stay in.

[06:26] Look, we're childish. Sometimes we take the low road because it's the road less traveled except for us.

[06:31] But that doesn't change the fact that there have been a lot of lies about um someone who a lot of people would

[06:37] obviously see as an personally is an example. A man who who uh lived a righteous life by all measures and all I

[06:44] mean all evidence that we have available to us. Um and I want you to know that you don't have to be as good as Charlie

[06:51] Kirk. You don't have to be perfect. The this side needs all different kinds of people. But he was he was and that's why

[06:58] he's become a symbol because they took his life anyway. And now they're trying to take his name in lying

[07:07] about his positions. This is important to us, near and dear to our hearts because if something were to happen to

[07:12] me, I would hope that someone could correct the record when I'm no longer here to correct it. It's time for the

[07:19] biggest lies that are now being pushed about Charlie Kirk. It's a claim truth.

[07:27] Okay. So, the first claim uh and he had to apologize for this because he's a

[07:32] Stephen King said that Charlie Kirk advocate advocated stoning gays to

[07:38] death. He advocated stoning gays to death. The

[07:44] truth? No, of course he didn't. And we're going to reverse the next two clips. Charlie Kirk again in context and

[07:50] Stephen King had to apologize for this. But there are plenty of people who believed it. Now imagine someone believes that for a week and they go out

[07:56] and act on it. Are you starting to get the picture? Charlie Kirk was describing how people cherrypick Bible verses for

[08:04] their own benefit. The first part is Deuteronomy 6 3-5. The second part is Leviticus 19. So you love God. So you

[08:11] must love his law. How do you love somebody? Here we go. You love them by telling them the truth, not by confirming or affirming

[08:18] their sin. And it says, by the way, Miss Rachel, you might want to crack open that Bible of yours in a lesser

[08:24] referenced part of the same part of scripture is in Leviticus 18 is that

[08:30] thou shalt lay with another man shall be stoned to death. Just saying. So, Miss

[08:37] Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19, love your neighbor as yourself. The chapter before affirms God's perfect law when it

[08:45] comes to sexual matters. It's very simple. So, how do you love somebody? you love them so much to correct their

[08:50] error. Yeah. And so let's just, you know, take the pride conversation out because people think it's an identification, which it's

[08:56] not. It's just sexual behavior. But it's if you meet an alcoholic or you meet a drug addict, do you affirm their

[09:03] struggle? No. You say, "You're better than this. Let's get you free from that. Let's get you free from that activity."

[09:09] And remember what I said early on. Stephen King apologized because he didn't want to see his book sales take a dip.

[09:15] He believes that that position you just heard espouse is violence. The left presents your points of view, your

[09:21] values, all of your perspectives, all of your opinions as violence, no matter what it is. Also, it is an easy mistake.

[09:28] I have to take some ownership here for uh Stephen King to make because I'm actually the one who advocated not

[09:35] stoning to death. Not stoning to but but at least nerfing Stephen King into like a

[09:41] slight coma.

[09:50] [Music] Yes,

[10:06] that ro

[10:17] It's unpleasant. The funniest part about that is the implication that those people have any

[10:22] qualms with doing that. Well, they would that they're like, I don't know. Should

[10:27] I be the first one to Rother Stone? No, no, no. They're pushing each other out of the way to they bring piles in.

[10:33] Oh, well, they would have quer. Also, it would be the first time that they've seen a Nerf. It's true. Yeah. What is this? You mean you can

[10:40] stone for longer or longer? Great stoning is so fun. It's great practice stoning. It's dry

[10:46] stoning we call it. Yes. My arm is sore. For those of you who want to fact check.

[10:52] Uh that's a joke. We list all the references. We list uh we list all the

[10:57] references for every factual claim, including in this very segment. Link in the description every single day. We're

[11:03] the first show to do it. We're still the only show to do it. And I recommend you go check them out and call us on our

[11:10] crap. Here's the next claim that the left has made. They uh and a lot of

[11:15] people made this claim that Charlie said black people are too dumb to fly planes. And I saw it was hard for us to put

[11:20] because there's so many tweets and there are so many people saying this. Um it's not even close. It's not even

[11:26] close. Here's the truth. Charlie Kirk argued that DEI made people

[11:32] wary when they shouldn't be. And he, by the way, specifically in many of these clips was referencing individuals. But

[11:39] here's the first clip. Anytime we reach racial quotas, we relax the standards, standards for air traffic

[11:44] control, professors, or college admissions. Therefore, when it comes to pilots or surgeons, if I see somebody

[11:51] who is black, as I said on the show, I'm going to hope that that person is qualified. That's what I said, which of

[11:56] course is legitimate because they're begging the question, we're not hiring based on merit anymore. We're hiring based on race. So, so when you see a

[12:04] black pilot, you wonder, boy, is that person there because they earned it or because they were placed there. That's

[12:10] what DEI does. It makes you ask questions you otherwise would not ask. Yes. And for self-respecting minorities,

[12:16] it makes them ask those questions. Yeah. There was a change my mind uh I want to say 2019 where there was a girl at UT

[12:22] who said, "Well, I don't think I would have gotten in without affirmative action." I asked about her SATs. I asked I said, "You're more than qualified. You

[12:28] You don't believe that you deserve to be here?" and you could see on her face the

[12:34] hollowed out feeling that she could never know. But the left will present that that as violence. Of course,

[12:40] they'll lie about it as well. Here's the next claim that they make um about

[12:46] Charlie Kirk. They uh I think we have a collage here. They claim that Charlie

[12:51] said black women don't have brain processing power. That's that's that's how they presented it. Well, here's the

[12:59] truth. He was specifically referencing black women

[13:04] that only had jobs because according to themselves, they were given this job

[13:11] exclusively because they were a black woman. If we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila

[13:18] Jackson Lee and Katangi Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called the racist.

[13:26] But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us. They're coming out and they're saying, "I'm only here because

[13:32] of affirmative action." Yeah, we know you do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really

[13:39] seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat

[13:44] seriously. Again, addressing specific individuals, black women like Sheila Jackson Lee, Joy

[13:51] Reid, who publicly credited DEI for their opportunity. here. Here

[13:57] I actually am very much in favor of DEI. I don't take that as an insult because I understand that that means that I'm just

[14:03] damn excellent and innovative and yeah, I am DEI. I'm bringing diversity and that's bringing something great. You're

[14:08] not insulting me. I certainly am a product of affirmative action. Diversity, equity, and inclusion matter.

[14:15] Diversity, equity, and inclusion is good for business and it is good for the

[14:21] economy. When I first became a public defender, I had no criminal defense experience. And I walked in and I told

[14:27] my boss, Charlie, I said, "Listen, you should hire me." He said, "Why?" I said, "Because I'm black."

[14:33] So, we will rightfully believe that you were hired because you're black. Yeah. You have like a resume or

[14:39] Yeah. Also less tactful about it. This DEI pilot,

[14:48] I'm drunk now.

[14:56] I'm drunk right now. Hey, owning it is a first step. It is. You got better first step.

[15:02] Don't fact check that, you silly He's so good, dude. If he was the pilot

[15:08] of a plane, I'd be like, "Ah, I can't tell if he's acting." I wouldn't be worried about DEI. I'd be worried about, "Is he acting?"

[15:13] He'd be the first person I'd want to hear. Give me the relic. Look, we'll be flying over Skynctity. Yeah.

[15:19] P gypsy. All right. All right. My pipsy. Two degrees. Two degrees in Pittsburgh.

[15:26] It's two degrees. Uh, next claim that the left makes about Charlie Kirk. The biggest lies. You know, the ones that

[15:33] justified his murder to the left. Let's be clear. Yep. That Charlie Kirk wanted to genocide

[15:41] trans people. The sympathy for Charlie Kirk ising weird. There seems to be this weird emphasis on taking the moral high ground

[15:48] and that you are somehow a better person if you're like h I feel bad for his family. This is the world he wanted and

[15:56] the world he was building. This is a white supremacist who wanted both of us dead. He was shot in the middle of

[16:01] saying something transphobic about trans people. And yet you want to have sympathy for him. You don't have to like

[16:07] violence, but I'm confused as to how you thought the revolution was going to be magically bloodless. Don't worry, we didn't. By the way, we

[16:15] actually obtained exclusive reverse footage of uh said tranny's mirror. There is this sympathy for Palestinians

[16:22] for the Sudin. [Music]

[16:30] Mirror, mirror on the wall. Who is the weirdest of them all?

[16:35] Freak. You. It's always you. In case you wondered what we were going to get back to,

[16:41] at least attempting to be funny. Uh, I think we nailed that. Here's the truth.

[16:47] And you know that Charlie Kirk caught quite a bit of flak for this uh because he had um gay Republicans, gay cons and

[16:54] I I don't know if there was a trans uh conservative, but he had many of them at

[16:59] the events of TPUSA and and was criticized by some on the right who thought he was normalizing it. And the good news is that's a healthy

[17:05] conversation that people on the right can have. But there can be no doubt that Charlie Kirk dealt very compassionately

[17:14] uh at every example we've seen with trans individuals when they approached him. I just want to say I'm a transgender

[17:20] male. What age should kids be able to get things like hormone therapy? Cuz I don't know what's true, what's not.

[17:27] Tell me, are you comfortable telling me your story? I've known that since like third grade

[17:32] now and I'm currently 19 almost 20. I have known basically since then. I didn't

[17:38] start going by like a different name until 7th and 8th grade. I just don't

[17:44] know like with the med like the whole medical stuff like what's true, what's not, what's helpful cuz I've heard so

[17:49] many different opinions. First of all, thank you so much for that. And of course, so I'm going to have an opinion that

[17:55] very few people will ever tell you which is I want you to be very cautious putting drugs into your system in the

[18:02] pursuit of changing your body. Mhm. I instead encourage you to work on

[18:07] what's going on in your brain first. I think what you need first and foremost is just a diagnosis.

[18:12] Just someone that is going to listen to what you've gone through, listen to what else is going on. My prayer for you,

[18:18] Miss and again, very few people will say this. I actually want to see you be comfortable in how you were born. Yeah,

[18:24] I know that you might not feel that way, but I think that is something that you can achieve. I think that with the right

[18:31] team and the right people, you don't have to wage war on your body. you can learn to love your body. And here's the thing. I don't even agree

[18:37] with everything that he said in that clip. He's a compassionate person. He's

[18:42] speaking truth and love. And he's not changing his position because he's

[18:47] confronted with someone who disagrees with him. Let me ask you this. Where in the hell

[18:54] do those on the left get Charlie Kirk wants to tr wants to commit genocide against trans people from that? Here's

[19:00] the answer. They don't. They don't get it from anything that Charlie Kirk said.

[19:07] They get it from the things that they fabricate in order to inspire you and then act like they're surprised by the

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[20:06] Oh boy, we're about to open it. Candace Owens, the

[20:12] roll the clip. Essentially, what was staged, an an intervention was staged by Bill Aman

[20:19] because Charlie's thoughts, Charlie's rational thoughts about Israel were a

[20:25] no. No. This is this is not the route that you should be going on. So just like

[20:30] Charlie was surrounded by his friends, his quoteunquote friends. Uh Bill Aman

[20:35] was very upset and threats were made.

[20:41] That is what uh I am I am told and I will tell you that I am very happy for

[20:48] Bill Aman to dispute this narrative. In fact, he was asked to dispute this narrative. Uh Max Blumenthal went out to

[20:55] him today and Bill Aman came back and said, "I I have receipts. I can show

[21:01] you." And he did not provide the receipts. This is not how it went down.

[21:06] I know it went down this way. I'm waiting for one of them to go on record and to say that it didn't go down this

[21:12] way. We'll get to that. Another person that was there, and I am not surprised this person was there. If you've been listening to my show, Seth

[21:18] Dylan, I was going to talk to Seth Dylan and I decided to message him last night about this uh Hampton's meeting. And

[21:26] Seth Dylan, who is normally very quick with a response, has not yet been able to respond. I'll show you this text

[21:32] message chain. And I want to be clear, I am not someone who normally publicizes text messages,

[21:39] but my friend was shot in the neck. And um I'm just not really in in the state right now to be polite when it comes to

[21:46] the answers that I am demanding. Okay,

[21:52] that was you polite all this time. And here's the truth, and

[21:58] far be it for me to defend everybody else involved. I don't know Bill Aman very well. Uh I'm familiar with

[22:03] Blumenthal. Don't like him. The truth is Bill Aman did respond in detail. Charlie's producers responded in detail.

[22:09] And the only receipts that Candace provided were texts that she sent to Seth Dylan that he never answered.

[22:17] That's just proof that she texted him. That's what is that proof of? I know. But in the internet sphere, people take the headline go Candace

[22:23] Owens brings receipts. And this whole thing was about how the Jews the Jews and he he was he was turning against the

[22:31] Jews and so they might have something. The implication I don't know if she's outright said it, the implication is that the Jews took out Charlie Kirk.

[22:38] Yeah. There's there's no she's dancing around it. Ian Carol says it much more clearly and even people like Dave Smith

[22:43] are having a hard time with this going like listen this is why people say you're crazy. Yeah. There's no evidence

[22:48] whatsoever. And to say that because Charlie started to notice that he just

[22:54] started down that road cuz that's all they're really claiming is that he started to kind of do that and they killed him for that. Well, they could do

[23:00] the same thing about me if I were to be taken out. That's the thing. He he had the same type of issues and criticisms

[23:05] of the Israeli government that we would have. But before we get to that, uh I just love how

[23:13] I know I don't usually share texts, private texts. That's literally your

[23:18] thing all the time. And here is the message chain between me and Skyler, my producer. This is how it

[23:25] happened. Blake, lean in. Get your lawyers in. You're You are unlocking this smear campaign, girlfriend. You got

[23:30] this. Here we go. You can use this. Noah's going to be like, "Can you He's going to be so mad at me." Anyways, I

[23:36] write because guess what? You're going to not going to believe this. I come up with my own ideas for the show. And can someone pull this? She shared

[23:42] private texts with Nick Fuentes. Nick Fuentes and Charlie Kirk, I believe, by the way. Yeah. Like, hey, this is us when we were we

[23:48] were It was innocent. We were scheming to get him and Erica together. Like, she shares that's her thing. That's what she

[23:54] does. And then she'll tell you, I'm not, by the way, I am not anti-Semitic.

[24:01] By the way, I am. And I'm not just using it as a broad label like it is. You do have to ask yourself, okay, is this an

[24:08] irrational position to hold uh in blaming the Jews? The idea that the Jews

[24:16] um backfilled, backlogged a Discord channel, social media accounts with a

[24:22] 22-year-old um somehow got him to become gay and sleep with a trans furry

[24:27] boyfriend. engrave the casings with the anti-fascist uh trans saying whatever

[24:34] the transfer bulge is and equip him with an antique 306 mouser with a poorly

[24:43] mounted scope that's a bolt action. Yes, I would argue it's irrational. That

[24:48] doesn't mean that criticisms of Israel are all irrational. But if it's always

[24:55] the Jews, if it's always the Jews, yes, it's irrational. Now, another truth on

[25:01] the flip side, I believe there is truth to this because we have dealt with this. I've told you I've been invited on trips

[25:07] to Israel. I've not gone. If ever I go, it will be on a private trip. It will

[25:12] not be for a photo op. And Charlie Kirk uh did discuss this

[25:18] with Megan Kelly said, "Hey, look, the problem is for someone who's done as much as I have." Charlie saying this,

[25:23] "I'll still get labeled an anti-semite if I criticize them at all." That is true. Doesn't mean the Jews took him

[25:29] out, but here you go. The behavior by a lot, both privately and publicly are

[25:34] pushing people like you and me away. Not like we're gonna be pro- Hamas. Not like we're gonna But we're like, honestly,

[25:41] the way you are treating me is so repulsive. I have text messages, Megan, calling me an anti-semite. We have

[25:48] funded, we have supported, and they're up against a sea of Islamic

[25:53] totalitarianism, and we should be cheering for them, right? Because they're up against barbarians and and

[25:59] monsters, and we want them to win. However, here is Megan Kelly and Charlie Kirk combined probably 30 million social

[26:06] media followers, like pretty, right? And you and I have been holding this down and you you probably get the negative,

[26:12] oh, you're just shilling for Israel, whatever. I'm like, okay, I'm going to do what's right regardless of the feedback, right?

[26:17] But then all of a sudden, like I host a person that I de I moderate the debate

[26:24] of, mind you, right? and I give equal time to Josh Hammer, equal time to a

[26:30] pro-Israel advocate and my moral character is being put into question. And I can imagine that that would be

[26:36] absolutely infuriating for Charlie Kirk. But he reiterated many many many times

[26:42] that he wanted Israel to win. And if you follow his I mean the span of

[26:47] his career, he was one of the strongest advocates for Israel more so than than most of us here. And that's that's his

[26:54] right. And if you disagree with him, it still doesn't change the fact that he was. And it doesn't change the fact that

[27:00] there are people trying to grift off of his name and death. Look, I want to be very very clear here. Charlie Kirk and

[27:06] I, we're not close friends. I'm not really close friends with anybody in this movement. We're kind of an island.

[27:11] That's by design. Big part of that is because I don't want anything to do with donors. I know how that goes. I know

[27:18] that's very difficult. I don't want anything to do with people who claim to be nothing but a sponsor, but really

[27:25] it's not a sponsorship that is um that is commensurate with what they're doing for the show, right? It's a little bit

[27:31] of you have to do this, you have to play ball. I want nothing. When I say this, we weren't close friends. I want nothing

[27:38] to do. I know everyone's jockeying for the position at TPUSA. It I would never even attempt it. I don't want to be

[27:45] involved with any nonprofits. I don't want to be at any other media company. The guy who turned down a $50 million

[27:52] contract over 5 years to pay everything here, including security and salaries, because we want to be independent. I

[27:58] have no dog in this fight other than the truth.

[28:04] And people out there who are saying, "I'm going to be the ambassador who may not align with all of Charlie Kirk's views." Maybe TPUSA is is fine with it.

[28:12] I think the decision will be with whatever board they have, donors, um, and Erica Kirk, but people then trying

[28:20] to profit off of his death through misrepresentation, claiming that they were close friends

[28:26] when they were no longer close friends, claiming that they have been approached

[28:31] or should be the next face of I have no interest in it because that's what

[28:37] Charlie did. And I I will tell you this, Charlie Kirk, look, there is no one out there who is going

[28:44] to be as as good as Charlie at fundraising and organization through the

[28:50] nonprofit grassroots network and that sector. He was the best that I have

[28:55] seen. I I would be terrible at it. Okay,

[29:01] different paths. Nonprofit TPUSA outreach, right? It's a mission. There's an entertainment show. It's a business.

[29:08] Both things are needed. The difference is I'm not telling you that I should or

[29:13] could do it. So many people are. And it's dishonest.

[29:19] I think it's pretty gross. And I think, look, and there also could be a kernel of truth to it. Look, I I

[29:25] hate hate AP pack for the same reason I hate ACT Blue or the SEIU because they give a huge amount of

[29:32] funding to Democrats. And I think the same should apply, by the way. They should have to register some kind of a foreign entity along with I get that

[29:39] it's a group of Jewish Americans. I understand the technicality there. But you gave hundreds of thousands of

[29:44] dollars to Hakeem Jeff. Let's do the same with Qatar. Let's do the same with China. I get it. And I understand that that in

[29:51] the nonprofit world, Charlie had to deal with some struggles that I that we wouldn't have to deal with here. They're

[29:56] different. And he would hand he handled those really well. And so, hey, why wouldn't Candace Owens

[30:04] come in and all over it? And let me read you actually also the producers. Um, the producers responded saying,

[30:10] "Bill never yelled at Charlie, never pressed him on BB, never gave him a list of Charlie's offenses against Israel."

[30:16] And I know that many of you will say, "Well, they have to say that because uh, you know, for optics." And that's the problem, isn't it? That's the problem

[30:22] with people like Candace Owens and Ian Carol just throwing stuff out there that has no basis in truth. None whatsoever.

[30:29] the idea, you know, too that you have people say, "Hey, look at this one conspiracy out there with Charlie Kirk's

[30:34] shooting is someone was there in a crime scene removing cameras." Sure, it was it was probably the camera

[30:41] guy and it probably had to do with them being very expensive cameras that were running amidst an assassination

[30:48] uh that would count as evidence and they'd want us that was remaining in an unsecured location. People saying, "Look

[30:55] at his look at his guard giving a signal." First off, he could not be giving a signal. Or I don't know if you

[31:00] know this, those who work in security often have signals amongst themselves.

[31:07] So people throw out mistruth and mistruth and mistruth and then go, "By the way, I'm the only answer." I'm going to tell you, I am not the only answer.

[31:14] I'm not even the best answer. I'm one of many. And I ask that you check the references. What bothers me is people

[31:20] going out and misrepresenting it, seeking to profit off of it. Because as much as as much as we're all mourning,

[31:28] you need to know that behind the scenes there's a Game of Thrones thing going on. And that doesn't mean that nobody is

[31:34] qualified or should should take that spot and could do a good job. I'm sure there are some possible candidates.

[31:41] Just as surely there are plenty of people who have no business even getting close to the kind of role that Charlie

[31:47] Kirk had. And so they just throw some chum in the water. Just some lies. Here

[31:52] you go. very effective. The left would love it. My problem with Candace, too, is that

[31:58] every time something like this happens, we always go back to the same place. Anything crazy that goes on in the

[32:04] world, we always go back to the same place. I've got receipts. I've got evidence that most people don't have. She never has.

[32:09] For a fact, what happened? And then Bill Aman comes out and and for people who don't know exactly what they're talking

[32:15] about, it wasn't some like backroom meeting. This was them putting on a kind of a conference essentially of other

[32:22] creators and influencers to talk about what's going on in the world and one of the topics centered around Israel.

[32:28] Actually, it wasn't completely about Israel, but it came up inside that topic. I think there were four. Yeah. Bill Aman was there for some of them. He

[32:34] moderated some of them. Then they had conversations about it. It was spirited on both sides. People were pro- Israel

[32:39] and people were not really fans of Israel but not pro- Hamas. They were just saying, "Hey, we don't like how this war is being prosecuted. We don't

[32:44] like how this is being done." And there were conversations that happened around that. And then there was a meeting

[32:49] afterwards with some of the principles to say, "Hey, what did we learn? Are there any people in this group that we can identify as people who maybe can

[32:55] start these local chapters and do these things on campus themselves? Is that what we want to do?" To then go from

[33:00] that, it's like cuz we've had conversations about Israel that have been spirited.

[33:06] And then to go from that and say, "Well, the Jews, BB basically is threatening him. They're offering him a lot of money

[33:11] if he'll just change his opinion on the Jews." And even Bill Aman was there and he was not happy. Let me tell you, I

[33:18] know he wasn't happy. How do you know, Candace? Is is this ever going to get old for you where you think you know

[33:25] everything and you're just going to go out and say it and you provide zero receipts on this stuff? Is it ever just

[33:30] eating away at your gut? Like, I mean, can you blame it? People are gobbling it up. Some people are people are eating it up.

[33:36] It's not going to last. I want less. I want fewer people to gobble that crap up. You still have some You still have some people who think she should head TP USA.

[33:42] You still have people out there who are like, "Oh, Charlie would have won." Because they don't know what's happened. That just shows how uninformed. Yes, there are some people on our side.

[33:48] How uninformed some of them are. But you're right. They will. I'll make the It's not going to last long. It's not going to last long. I mean,

[33:54] what Nashville manifesto? She said we were wrong. She had her sources. She never She never provided any receipts

[34:01] whatsoever. I thought you got someone fired. Remember they said, "Yeah, she said, "I got someone fired." You got a police officer fired. I got anyone fired.

[34:07] Um, she does that all the time. It's wait, she wakes up, goes, "What's trending? How can I inject myself

[34:14] regardless of accuracy or honesty? Right? That's what she's doing right here. It's not honest. And she's been

[34:20] invited on the show. Uh because she said she wants to debate everybody so that people can see the bad ideas. She has

[34:26] been invited in the past. She has not. Okay, fine. I just I this is all pretty

[34:32] pretty gross. And I get that everyone's going to be talking about Charlie Kirk because he it's a huge inflection point.

[34:38] There's a huge difference between talking about or correcting the record as we've attempted to do today and lying

[34:45] for profit. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. And people, they'll come out, by the way, they'll come out and know this

[34:50] and go, "I I don't make any money by saying this." Well, do you get clicks?

[34:56] Do you get more clicks? Mhm. Okay. Let's be honest. So, saying that Charlie was taken out by the Jews will generate more

[35:03] clicks. You can do that for a while, but please don't be led astray. Even if you

[35:08] vehemently oppose the Israeli government, and I think there's a case to be made, certainly as it relates to

[35:15] uh Benjamin Netanyahu, Charlie Kirk asked some questions. Of course, on October 7th, I think he

[35:21] asked, "Hey, was there a standown order?" Because everyone in the country is IDF. You can't walk around a corner

[35:27] without seeing a rifle and it went 6 hours without them showing up at a music festival. I I I believe that Charlie

[35:33] Kirk asked qu he said this is people have this question and I'm going to present it. That's what he did. That's

[35:39] what he did. And people show this just like we showed you this Megan Kelly clip just to I could show you a 10 to1 ratio

[35:46] of him being passionately supportive of Israel. How you feel about that position

[35:52] is irrelevant. Was it his position? Yes. Was he clear

[35:58] about his position? Yes. So, if someone is presenting to you a different position with no receipts, that's what

[36:06] we call lying. Oh, you're still here and you're still

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